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2013 Wimbledon Thread
Kicks off in about 6 hours in London. ESPN has all the rights to show it here in the USA.
Federer/Nadal are in the same quarter. Fed/Nadal will have to beat the other, Murray AND Djokovic potentially to win the Slam.
thats a hard draw for either Federer or Nadal.
But neither Murray or Djokovic are as strong as Fed or Nadal on grass.
I got Nadal winning this.
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meanwhile i got you with less money in your pocket, duma. surprised?
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Djokovic to win. Unless they've slowed down the courts some more with new technology, as well as the balls, Nadal hasn't got a shot.
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Let's go Rafa. #13 is in sight.
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My money is on Rafa. Djokovic is looking questionable as of late.
Federer is always a threat but who knows.
Serena barring injury will cruise through Wimbledon.
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My favorite tourney of the year. Favorites to win are probably Djoker and Serena. I'll be pulling for Federer, or perhaps Murray to get a major win in his homeland. I would also like for any female to win besides Serena. As an American I guess I should be cheering for her, but I really can't stand the biatch.
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Grigor Dimitrov got this :cheers:
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i think this might be fed's last chance of a grandslam
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In my head I don't think Federer will win, but I'm tempted to put a cheeky bet on him while his odds are quite long.
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Nadal down a set and 4-5 in the 2nd.
Wow
And I jinx the other dude lol
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Biggest all time upset coming.
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are you kidding me nadal? :facepalm
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Gotta think Darcis has gotta win it in straights to have a chance. How many 4 or 5 setters has he played? Can't be many at all.
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is nadal hurt or something? just switched it on
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[QUOTE=chips93]is nadal hurt or something? just switched it on[/QUOTE]
Something is up with him, physically or mentally. I've been watching since the start of the 2nd and he just looks lethargic. Darcis is playing great tennis but nothing an 80% Nadal shouldn't handle with ease.
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[QUOTE=GatorKid117]Something is up with him, physically or mentally. I've been watching since the start of the 2nd and he just looks lethargic. Darcis is playing great tennis but nothing an 80% Nadal shouldn't handle with ease.[/QUOTE]
yeah his backhand looks like complete shit. which only means the darcis guy is gonna keep forcing him to hit it backhand.
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the fck is wrong with nadals knee? he took the tourney after the french off so he could heal, but you could tell it was bad today. he just didnt have it, he didnt chase, he didnt defend, his backhand was horrible. he usually breaks his opponents like 2-3 times a set, and he could barely touch this guy :rant
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[QUOTE=plowking]Djokovic to win. Unless they've slowed down the courts some more with new technology, as well as the balls, Nadal hasn't got a shot.[/QUOTE]
Guess the courts were a bit quicker this time around, hey? :oldlol:
People seriously need to calm down with this Rafa possible GOAT talk. He could win as many as he wants, and he wouldn't be. Take him for what he is; a great clay court player who happened to win a few titles on the other surfaces before he was figured out a little.
He is close to unbeatable on clay. Incredible stamina, and ability to chase down every shot. But once you get on the quicker courts, its harder to keep that up, and he has to rely more on his opponent missing his shots than him doing anything about it. He plays moonball tennis.
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Very gracious of Nadal to still sign autographs and letting Darcis leave 1st. I'm not a Rafa fan but he's always been a great professional. Get better soon.
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[QUOTE=plowking]Guess the courts were a bit quicker this time around, hey? :oldlol:
People seriously need to calm down with this Rafa possible GOAT talk. He could win as many as he wants, and he wouldn't be. Take him for what he is; a great clay court player who happened to win a few titles on the other surfaces before he was figured out a little.
He is close to unbeatable on clay. Incredible stamina, and ability to chase down every shot. But once you get on the quicker courts, its harder to keep that up, and he has to rely more on his opponent missing his shots than him doing anything about it. He plays moonball tennis.[/QUOTE]
do you enjoy defense in the NBA? or do you root for the heat because of high flying hollywood? maybe you werent around for the knicks-heat rivalry when it was a slugfest and playoff games were won 72-70 but i was. sure its different scenarios as the nba is a team game and tennis is 1 on 1, but i love defense. nadal plays defense, he doesnt have the offense of djokavic or federer, but he has beat both those guys plenty because of the defense he plays. he has knee issues, which is 100% the reason why he sucked today. he was missing so many easy shots, and his backhand was deplorable.
and for the record, they have sped up the clay court a lil at the french.
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[QUOTE=plowking]Guess the courts were a bit quicker this time around, hey? :oldlol:
People seriously need to calm down with this Rafa possible GOAT talk. He could win as many as he wants, and he wouldn't be. Take him for what he is; a great clay court player who happened to win a few titles on the other surfaces before he was figured out a little.
He is close to unbeatable on clay. Incredible stamina, and ability to chase down every shot. But once you get on the quicker courts, its harder to keep that up, and he has to rely more on his opponent missing his shots than him doing anything about it. He plays moonball tennis.[/QUOTE]
I understand the general point of your post but I think you're selling Rafa short. The only player who has "figured him out" consistently has been Djoko. If it weren't for him, Rafa would have several more hardcourt Slams under his belt.
Plus, the 2008 Wimbledon Final. The "Best Final Ever". Don't see how one just "happens" to win titles with matches like that.
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what were the betting odds on the rafa match?
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-20000 for Nadal and -1600 for the other guy.
So he was a 2000/1 favorite, and the other guy was a 1/160 underdog.
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[QUOTE=plowking]Guess the courts were a bit quicker this time around, hey? :oldlol:
People seriously need to calm down with this Rafa possible GOAT talk. He could win as many as he wants, and he wouldn't be. Take him for what he is; a great clay court player who happened to win a few titles on the other surfaces before he was figured out a little.
He is close to unbeatable on clay. Incredible stamina, and ability to chase down every shot. But once you get on the quicker courts, its harder to keep that up, and he has to rely more on his opponent missing his shots than him doing anything about it. He plays moonball tennis.[/QUOTE]
If Rafa wins "as many as he wants" he would most def be the GOAT. If he finishes with 16 or 17 you would have a 50/50 split for Rafa/Roger most likely, if Rafa finishes with more it would be a high majority for Nadal.
Point blank, end of discussion. This loss is no different than losing in a semi....nobody cares who made semi's, only who wins the title.
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[QUOTE=Carbine]If Rafa wins "as many as he wants" he would most def be the GOAT. If he finishes with 16 or 17 you would have a 50/50 split for Rafa/Roger most likely, if Rafa finishes with more it would be a high majority for Nadal.
Point blank, end of discussion. This loss is no different than losing in a semi....nobody cares who made semi's, only who wins the title.[/QUOTE]
This loss most certainly is. He lost in the first round...
No, if he finishes with 17, there won't be a 50/50 split. Hes a player that dominated, and will most likely continue to dominate only one surface. Federer was a more complete player who could win on any court.
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How many potential GOAT's get swept in the 1st round of a Major while in their prime? :roll:
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[QUOTE=Carbine]If Rafa wins "as many as he wants" he would most def be the GOAT. If he finishes with 16 or 17 you would have a 50/50 split for Rafa/Roger most likely, if Rafa finishes with more it would be a high majority for Nadal.
Point blank, end of discussion. This loss is no different than losing in a semi....nobody cares who made semi's, only who wins the title.[/QUOTE]
This is complete BS. There is a huge difference losing to a top 10 player in the semi's and getting swept in the 1st round by a no-name scrub.
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injuries happen. you think lebron james could lose to nate robinson in a 1 on 1 if he had no legs? absolutely.
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Nadal has had bad knees since 17.
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[QUOTE=imdaman99]injuries happen. you think lebron james could lose to nate robinson in a 1 on 1 if he had no legs? absolutely.[/QUOTE]
Once injuries become frequent, they are no longer an excuse, they are part of a players identity. There have been questions for quite awhile now on whether or not Nadal's body could withstand his physical style of play.
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Ha ha rafa, I'm loving it :cheers:
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[QUOTE=bdreason]This is complete BS. There is a huge difference losing to a top 10 player in the semi's and getting swept in the 1st round by a no-name scrub.[/QUOTE]
Not when it comes to who the GOAT is.
GOAT goes almost hand in hand to who WINS the most.
Not who loses in a semi. Or loses in a 1st round.
Sampras lost in the 1st and 2nd round a bunch of times. Nobody cares....there was still a large debate of who the greater player was when Roger was nearing Sampras' record of grand slams....it was only until Roger surpassed and ultimately put distance between them that it has become a vast majority in favor of Fed.
At the end of the day when people judge Nadals career, it will be how many grand slams he has won. If it's too close to call, other things will be used, like H2H record, Davis' cups, Masters titles, gold medals....all of which Nadal holds a very tidy resume.
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This first round loss hurts Rafa much much less than 2011 hurts Lebron's legacy.
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In Tennis the minor details of how you win, how you lose, and H2H does not matter at all. At the end of the day, how great you are is determined by the amount of GS's you have.
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[QUOTE=The_Yearning]In Tennis the minor details of how you win, how you lose, and H2H does not matter at all. At the end of the day, how great you are is determined by the amount of GS's you have.[/QUOTE]
If Nadal never wins another Major besides the French, he will never be considered the GOAT. I don't care if he wins 10 more French Open's. You can't just show up for clay court season, and be considered the GOAT. :no:
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Also, acting like consistency doesn't matter is ridiculous. Sure, it's mostly about winning Majors, but both Sampras and Federer managed to hold the #1 ranking for YEARS. Federer held the #1 ranking for 237 [I]consecutive[/I] weeks (4 1/2 years). The longest Nadal has held the ranking was 56 [I]consecutive[/I] weeks, or just over 1 year. Even if you look at [I]total[/I] weeks ranked at #1, Federer has a 3 to 1 edge (302 to 102).