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2011-12 ALL-NBA FIRST TEAM
Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points
Forward LeBron James, Miami (118) 596
Forward Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City (117) 591
Center Dwight Howard, Orlando (75) 476
Guard Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers (104) 568
Guard Chris Paul, L.A. Clippers (74) 484
2011-12 ALL-NBA SECOND TEAM
Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points
Forward Kevin Love, Minnesota (16) 365
Forward Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers 170
Center Andrew Bynum, L.A. Lakers (33) 400
Guard Tony Parker, San Antonio (41) 367
Guard Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City (5) 239
2011-12 ALL-NBA THIRD TEAM
Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points
Forward Carmelo Anthony, New York (1) 154
Forward Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas 136
Center Tyson Chandler, New York (4) 60
Guard Dwyane Wade, Miami (1) 235
Guard Rajon Rondo, Boston (4) 142
Blake over Melo and Dirk? On what planet:oldlol:
Lmao how the **** was LeBron not unanimous?
looks about right to me.
First Team:
Dwight Howard
Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Kobe Bryant
Chris Paul
Second Team:
Andrew Bynum
Blake Griffin
Kevin Love
Tony Parker
Russell Westbrook
Third Team:
Tyson Chandler
Dirk Nowitzki
Carmelo Anthony
Dwyane Wade
Rajon Rondo
For those that don't want to read through the article.
[QUOTE=PJR]Lmao how the **** was LeBron not unanimous?[/QUOTE]
This
[QUOTE=DTreats]Blake over Melo and Dirk? On what planet:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
In the opinions of NBA coaches :applause: .
Edit:
NVM this one was by sportswriters.
i have a problem with blake being on the 2nd team. he did not deserve it over Dirk or KG
westbrook>>>Kobe
[QUOTE=DuMa]i have a problem with blake being on the 2nd team. he did not deserve it over Dirk or KG[/QUOTE]
21/11/3 and a better record.
vs
22/7/2 and a worse record.
No brainer and this is always how it's been judged.
Few changes I would make....
Duncan or Garnett should have made it over Chandler at Center for the 3rd team.
Garnett or Pierce should have made it over Melo at Forward for the 3rd team.
Westbrook or Parker should have made it over Kobe at Guard for the 1st team.
Bynum should have made it over Howard at Center for the 1st team.
Garnett could be listed as either Forward or Center this season since he played both.
The rest is about right I suppose.
how did westbrook not make first team. utter trash. kobe gets in every year.
[QUOTE=DuMa]i have a problem with blake being on the 2nd team. he did not deserve it over Dirk or KG[/QUOTE]
This could get interesting. This may turn into a mega argument with Clippersfan thread. Those are always interesting.
yup...yup.
[QUOTE=donald_trump]how did westbrook not make first team. utter trash. kobe gets in every year.[/QUOTE]
Because Kobe put up better numbers and was the best player on the 3rd seed in the West. Sorry, I love Russ, but Kobe deserved 1st team over him this year.
[QUOTE=KG215]This could get interesting. This may turn into a mega argument with Clippersfan thread. Those are always interesting.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to refrain from doing that... just sad that anytime anything good happens to the Clippers they aren't deserving.
These awards have always been based on better stats+better team record. Griffin was better than Dirk in both regards so it's unfair to act like they should switch All NBA teams. It's not like Dirk got shafted... he's on the next team.
With so many holes in his game ( defense, free throws, mid-range, post-game ) he still gets a place on the 2nd All-NBA team.
Don't tell me the sky is the limit when there are footprints on the moon :bowdown:
[QUOTE=KG215]Because Kobe put up better numbers and was the best player on the 3rd seed in the West. Sorry, I love Russ, but Kobe deserved 1st team over him this year.[/QUOTE]
kobe played like ass this year. he deserves the second team.
BTW anybody upset about Griffin's placing just know he's the ONLY player that didn't get a single first team vote and most of the other players on second team had double the overall votes he did. So he basically barely made second team.
[QUOTE=donald_trump]kobe played like ass this year. he deserves the second team.[/QUOTE]
Let me hit that shit you smokin
Whoohoo LerBon made the All-NBA 1st team.
1x MVP, 1x All-NBA defense team 1st, 1x All-NBA 1st team, 1x All-Star berth, 1x FMVP (soon to be)
what a seazon.
But where the **** is Chris Brosh???
[QUOTE=Booz Vivic]Whoohoo LerBon made the All-NBA 1st team.
[B][U]1x MVP, 1x All-NBA defense team 1st, 1x All-NBA 1st team, 1x All-Star berth[/U][/B], 1x FMVP (soon to be)
what a seazon.
But where the **** is Chris Brosh???[/QUOTE]
:confusedshrug:
Please tell me that this is a joke.
[QUOTE=donald_trump]kobe played like ass this year. he deserves the second team.[/QUOTE]
Right...Kobe sucked this year.
[B]Kobe:[/B] 27.9-5.4-4.6 on .430/.303/.845
[B]Westbrook:[/B] 23.6-4.6-5.5 on .457/.316/.823
Westbrook has a slight edge on FG% and 3P% and assists. Kobe has him by 5 points in ppg and rebounds. Sorry, I love Westbrook, but Kobe probably deserves 1st team this year over him.
I didn't realize Kobe shot just 43% from the floor, though. Wow.
[QUOTE=RaininTwos]westbrook>>>Kobe[/QUOTE]
+1
Check this out:
[url]http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=bryanko01&y1=2012&p2=westbru01&y2=2012[/url]
Blake griffin getting the nod over other forwards is not that bad.
What really surprised me is that lebron didnt get full 1st team votes.Somebody thinks he is not worthy of 1st team.Wow.
i agree, westbrook > kobe
[QUOTE=arifgokcen]Blake griffin getting the nod over other forwards is not that bad.
What really surprised me is that lebron didnt get full 1st team votes.Somebody thinks he is not worthy of 1st team.Wow.[/QUOTE]
Probably Cleveland writers :confusedshrug:
Not bad, Dirk was better than Griffin though
[QUOTE=chazzy]Not bad, Dirk was better than Griffin though[/QUOTE]
Just curious how. Blake Griffin had better stats, better regular season record and got further in the playoffs. This year... Dirk has ZERO case.
Chandler over Marc.
Shows the influenceof New York Media.
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Just curious how. Blake Griffin had better stats, better regular season record [/QUOTE]
Better record credit goes to CP3 since he's the 2nd option, and Blake had better numbers than Dirk last year as well but he wasn't a better player.
Westbrook over Kobe
Dirk or KG over Griffin. seriously dude cannot make FTs, does not have a post game or a jumpshot, I cannot honestly call him a basketball player yet.
[QUOTE=chazzy]Better record credit goes to CP3 since he's the 2nd option, and Blake had better numbers than Dirk last year as well but he wasn't a better player.[/QUOTE]
Griffin played less minutes and took less shots which is why we saw a drop in points per game. He increased his efficiency and improved his defense a little bit while Dirk declined even more. THIS year Dirk isn't better, PERIOD. Tyson Chandler and their incredible depth was a huge reason for the Mavs success last year and nobody discredited Dirk for that.
So just because Griffin has a superstar with him doesn't mean he literally CAN'T be considered better than Dirk. Mavs had a subpar season led by Dirk, their star.
[QUOTE=Stern]Chandler over Marc.
Shows the influenceof New York Media.[/QUOTE]
DPOY
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]
First Team:
Dwight Howard-[B]Obviously[/B]
Lebron James-[B]Obviously[/B]
Kevin Durant-[B]Obviously[/B]
Kobe Bryant-[B]Yeah, can see Westbrook here, but Kobe works too[/B]
Chris Paul-[B]Obviously[/B]
Second Team:
Andrew Bynum-[B]Yes[/B]
Blake Griffin-[B]Too high[/B]
Kevin Love-[B]Yes[/B]
Tony Parker-[B]Suppose so[/B]
Russell Westbrook-[B]Yep, argument for 1st team tho[/B]
Third Team:
Tyson Chandler-:biggums: [B]I like Chandler, but he's not better than Marc Gasol, KG, Duncan, or Al Jefferson.[/B]
Dirk Nowitzki-[B]Yeah, would be higher if not for horrible start[/B]
Carmelo Anthony-[B]No[/B]
Dwyane Wade-[B]Eh. I might have him higher, but injuries lowered him I suppose[/B]
Rajon Rondo-[B]Yeah[/B]
For those that don't want to read through the article.[/QUOTE]
Actually not too bad this year. Now the all-defense teams....:coleman:
Why are people sucking on Chandler's balls so hard?
"Griffin was the only player in the NBA in 2011-12 to average over 20.0 points, 10.5 rebounds and 3.0 assists. Griffin shot 54.9 percent from the field and finished the season 4th in the league with 41 double-doubles, 6th in rebounds, 7th in field goal percentage and 10th in scoring."
[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Griffin played less minutes and took less shots which is why we saw a drop in points per game. He increased his efficiency and improved his defense a little bit while Dirk declined even more. THIS year Dirk isn't better, PERIOD. Tyson Chandler and their incredible depth was a huge reason for the Mavs success last year and nobody discredited Dirk for that.
So just because Griffin has a superstar with him doesn't mean he literally CAN'T be considered better than Dirk. Mavs had a subpar season led by Dirk, their star.[/QUOTE]
And the Mavs would be in the lottery if they swapped Dirk for Griffin. I just thought Dirk was a better individual player and the Clippers would be a bigger threat if they had him instead.
Blake Griffin should be on third team. Besides that, I agree with just about everything.