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TRADE: Wizards trade Gilbert Arenas to Magic for Rashard Lewis!
The Orlando Magic have acquired three-time NBA All-Star guard Gilbert Arenas from the Washington Wizards in exchange for Rashard Lewis, President of Basketball Operations/General Manager Otis Smith announced today.
“Gilbert (Arenas) is a proven All-Star in this league and we’re excited to add him to our team,” said Smith. “He is one of the top scoring guards in the game, he can create scoring chances for his teammates and he is as tough as they come. Rashard (Lewis) was important in helping our franchise get to the next level, and we wish him and his family all the best in the future.”
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[quote][FONT=Arial Black][SIZE=5]Report: Magic agree to blockbuster deal[/SIZE][/FONT]
[I][U]Goodbye, Vince. Hello again, Hedo.
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The Orlando Magic, in the midst of a 16-9 start to the season, have dispatched Vince Carter and re-acquired forward Hedo Turkoglu in a six-player trade with the Phoenix Suns, according to multiple Internet reports.
[B]ESPN's Chris Broussard reported that the Magic will [U]also[/U] receive Jason Richardson and Earl Clark in exchange for Marcin Gortat, Mickael Pietrus, a 2011 first-round draft pick and cash considerations.[/B]
The deal comes on the same day as a rumor that Orlando president Otis Smith has had discussions with the Washington Wizards regarding a potential trade for guard Gilbert Arenas.
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It's official!
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[quote]The Orlando Magic may announce a trade of[B] Rashard Lewis[/B] to the Washington Wizards for [B]Gilbert Arenas[/B] as soon as Saturday[/quote] [URL="http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2010/12/18/1883457/kennedy-orlando-magic-washington-wizards-close-to-trading-rashard"]http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2010/12/18/1883457/kennedy-orlando-magic-washington-wizards-close-to-trading-rashard[/URL]
Shit just got interesting.
[quote=SIRI1][quote]Chris_Broussard Magic & Suns closing in on deal to send Hedo/jRich to Phx for Vince and Gortat. "90 pct" chance of it happening, sources say. Within 24 hrs
Orlando also close to moving rashard Lewis to Washington for Arenas and a big to replace Gortat [/quote] Damn, that's a whole lotta change.[/quote]
[quote]The trade returns former Magic star Hedo Turkoglu, along with Jason Richardson and Earl Clark, to Orlando in exchange for Vince Carter, Marcin Gortat, Mickael Pietrus, a 2011 first-round pick and cash considerations.[/quote] [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5932861"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5932861[/URL]
Shit just got serious
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[quote]Sources: Vince Carter dealt to Suns[/quote] [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5932861&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5932861&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines[/URL]
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
i cant believe they are shopping gortat
rashard should definitely go.. but for gil? really?
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
Anybody who has been watching Orlando this season know Rashard is SHIT! He's worthless, I'd take Gil over Lewis any day of this week at this point. Anything to get rid of Lewis and that damn contract.
PLEASE make this happen! Then we get to keep VC and his expiring deal and use him in another trade.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
[QUOTE=nashisbest]i cant believe they are shopping gortat
rashard should definitely go.. but for gil? really?[/QUOTE]
Rashard is horrible. Period.
And they're keeping Jameer which is odd... They can't possibly try a Jameer + Gilbert combo...
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
Arenas may not be what he was but he is still a very good player and Dwight will open up alot for him.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
Lewis is better then arenas. Lewis is $$$ from 3
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
[QUOTE=DontGoogleMe]Lewis is better then arenas. Lewis is $$$ from 3[/QUOTE]
Really?
He's shooting 37% from the arc but 41% from the field. That's terrible from your power forward. That's near the bottom if not the bottom of the league in terms of shooting percentage for power forwards in the league. He doesn't rebound or defend. He's a one dimensional player.
Gilbert Arenas almost averages the same amount of rebounds as Lewis, so you're losing nothing there and probably actually gaining rebounds if you give Bass more minutes, he can set up team mates and get you steals. His percentages should go up with open looks from double teams on Dwight so I wouldn't worry about those.
I like this trade for Orlando if they trade Lewis for Arenas. Hate it if they trade Vince Carter & Marcin Gortat for Arenas.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
[QUOTE=DontGoogleMe]Lewis is better then arenas. Lewis is $$$ from 3[/QUOTE]
Stop talking bollocks! Rashard isnt better than Arenas and from 3 this year, Lewis has been a f*cking joke! The guy is getting $20 million to average 9 points and nothing else.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: omg they're trying to trade VC back for Hedo
Everyone who said Hedo is better than VC after all these years HAS BEEN VINDICATED
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
[QUOTE=blondie]:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: omg they're trying to trade VC back for Hedo
Everyone who said Hedo is better than VC after all these years HAS BEEN VINDICATED[/QUOTE]
That trade would make no sense though if Lewis is traded also because the reason the two were so good together is because no team could guard both of them on the perimeter successfully. They need each other to be successful. They both suck without one another.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
If they can get rid of Lewis, then it was a win.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
Orlando must know at this point, that they arent going anywhere with the current roster they have, so hey.....might as well try to move pieces, and get to crackin'
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
Lewis is a bum though, so Im not mad at Orlando for shedding this guy off....
If you're going to try to trade him, then I would guess that Arenas' contract is the closet thing right? Shit, right now Gilbert could PROBABLY provide more for Orlando than Lewis has all season....dude is GARBAGE.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
I thought it was Carter/Gortat for Arenas which would be bad value.
But the Rashard Lewis for Arenas? DONE!!
Lewis is terrible and washed up; Arenas is a half-washed up, so the Magic should get a little bit better. Only problem is that they're trading one contract albatross for another, so look for Arenas to get traded in about 3 years.
The Magic better find something really good with Carter/Gortat; the future of Dwight Howard depends on it. A trade to New Orleans for Chris Paul will save the franchise; make it happen somehow. Certainly helps that David Stern is running the Hornets.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
Lewis for Arenas? I'll take it.
Lewis' contract is the worst in the league. Arenas is probably third despite having one more year than Lewis.
Lewis' performance has been a slow trickle downward ever since he got busted with the performance enhancing drugs during the 2009 Finals.
But if they do that move it does mean that they need to deal either Carter or Nelson or both.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
If Orlando bad Gil for Rashard, that lets Orlando still have VC, Gortat and now Nelson as good trade pieces.
That bodes well for the Magic, however if they give up VC and Gortat for Gil, thats pointless. You can get more for a $20 million expiring contract and Gortat than Gil with his bad contract.
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[QUOTE=Magic Vinsanity]If Orlando bad Gil for Rashard, that lets Orlando still have VC, Gortat and now Nelson as good trade pieces.
That bodes well for the Magic, however if they give up VC and Gortat for Gil, thats pointless. You can get more for a $20 million expiring contract and Gortat than Gil with his bad contract.[/QUOTE]
I agree, and I'm pretty sure Otis Smith knows that.
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I approve this trade, it makes sense for both teams.
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[QUOTE=Magic Vinsanity]If Orlando bad Gil for Rashard, that lets Orlando still have VC, Gortat and now Nelson as good trade pieces.
That bodes well for the Magic, however if they give up VC and Gortat for Gil, thats pointless. You can get more for a $20 million expiring contract and Gortat than Gil with his bad contract.[/QUOTE]
If they include Gortat in the trade, they can trade Nelson for some role players including a decent center.
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[QUOTE=davidenk0]If they include Gortat in the trade, they can trade Nelson for some role players including a decent center.[/QUOTE]
Fran Vazquez is coming from Barcelona next season.
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[QUOTE=broy]Fran Vazquez is coming from Barcelona next season.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, so he says every year! F*ck Fran Vazquez!
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Lewis for Gil>>>>>>>>VC and Gortat for Gil
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[QUOTE=broy]Fran Vazquez is coming from Barcelona next season.[/QUOTE]
I'm spanish and Fran hasn't renewed his contract with Barcelona, so that's a likely option, the bad thing is that they would have to wait until next season to get him.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
I made a thread about the 2 teams making a deal a month or so ago I hope the deal ends up looking a little like this:
Trade 2
[B][U]Orlando Magic[/B][/U]
[b]WAS[/b] Gilbert Arenas (4 yrs $80 mil)
[b]WAS[/b] Andray Blatche (5 yrs $35 mil)
[b]WAS[/b] Al Thornton (1 yrs $2.8 mil)
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Difference: [B]$34.8 mil more[/B] [traded ($83 mil) received ($117.8 mil)]
[B][U]Washington Wizards[/B][/U]
[b]ORL[/b] Rashard Lewis (3 yrs $66 mil)
[b]ORL[/b] Brandon Bass (3 yrs $12 mil)
[b]ORL[/b] Daniel Orton (4 yrs $5 mil)
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Difference: [B]$34.8 mil less[/B] [traded ($117.8 mil) received ($83 mil)]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=196151[/url]
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[QUOTE=2LeTTeRS]I made a thread about the 2 teams making a deal a month or so ago I hope the deal ends up looking a little like this:
Trade 2
[B][U]Orlando Magic[/B][/U]
[b]WAS[/b] Gilbert Arenas (4 yrs $80 mil)
[b]WAS[/b] Andray Blatche (5 yrs $35 mil)
[b]WAS[/b] Al Thornton (1 yrs $2.8 mil)
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Difference: [B]$34.8 mil more[/B] [traded ($83 mil) received ($117.8 mil)]
[B][U]Washington Wizards[/B][/U]
[b]ORL[/b] Rashard Lewis (3 yrs $66 mil)
[b]ORL[/b] Brandon Bass (3 yrs $12 mil)
[b]ORL[/b] Daniel Orton (4 yrs $5 mil)
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Difference: [B]$34.8 mil less[/B] [traded ($117.8 mil) received ($83 mil)]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=196151[/url][/QUOTE]
I'd hope it's just a clean Lewis/Arenas swap.
The Magic need to continue to be tough on the interior which Bass is. With Howard on the team, Blatche won't get his touches on the box and will have a hard time adjusting from an all offensive guy to a defensive/rebounder type. Bass is really efficient in this role.
Al's a chucker; I wish he was a perimeter defender but that's probably not the case. Hopefully being on a winner for the first time in his life (even his FSU teams sucked) will change him and stop all his bad habits. I wouldn't bet on it.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
Yeah, if we have to give up Bass aswell, f*ck that. Lewis/Arenas straight up or forget it.
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[QUOTE=Magic Vinsanity]Yeah, if we have to give up Bass aswell, f*ck that. Lewis/Arenas straight up or forget it.[/QUOTE]
Yea straight up or f it! Lewis has been complete trash and I am a Lewis fan but make the deal cause we are not going anywhere with this team like this!
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
Why would Washington want Lewis? Don't think he really helps them. Dwight and the Magic are the ones forcing this trade, not the Wizards. They should try and get a better deal out of the Magic.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
You can give Dwight Kobe and he will still be a glorified scrub.
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[QUOTE=BlackWhiteGreen]Why would Washington want Lewis? Don't think he really helps them. Dwight and the Magic are the ones forcing this trade, not the Wizards. They should try and get a better deal out of the Magic.[/QUOTE]
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To shed that crippling deal of Arenas of course. Lewis' deal runs through this season and next season, after which it's unguaranteed. Arenas is getting paid the max until the 2014 off-season. Big difference. A 38 million dollar difference to be exact.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
Yeah, that 3 for 3 trade isn't good. Brandon Bass is playing pretty well and Blatche has low bball IQ.
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[QUOTE=disel]You can give Dwight Kobe and he will still be a glorified scrub.[/QUOTE]
Why are retards like this stupid shit head allowed to post?!
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[b][size="7"]Worst Blockbuster Trade Ever![/size][/b]
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[QUOTE=Magic Vinsanity]Why are retards like this stupid shit head allowed to post?![/QUOTE]
Truth HURTS?
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[QUOTE=Faberg]Yeah, that 3 for 3 trade isn't good. Brandon Bass is playing pretty well and Blatche has low bball IQ.[/QUOTE]
I guess given how well Bass has played this year this makes a little sense, but I still think Blatche has more value than Bass. I think I'm higher on him than most other poster's here but I see him a potential diamond in the rough.
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Bass is a beast, im glad hes been getting some minutes, he deserves more touches though...
Might be better for him in a different situation.
Orlando doesnt really seem to have much of a plan..
They need to get rid of jameer, definitely rashard and maybe carter..
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All of this is retarded and screams amateurism and strategical mistakes. Dwight s pressing the staff or threatening to quit obviously. Whats the point of changing pieces to obtain a team that in the end is as good or worse but no better at all than what they had in the first place. Bringing back tuboglu is the icing on the cake. Ridiculous. Screams "we have no clue what to do and are desperate". It's like going back to an ex girlfirend cause you cant get any new *****.
What a pathetitc state orlando is in. Who would have thought. It's way too late. No chip next year either it seems.
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[QUOTE=LJJ]?
To shed that crippling deal of Arenas of course. Lewis' deal runs through this season and next season, after which it's unguaranteed. Arenas is getting paid the max until the 2014 off-season. Big difference. A 38 million dollar difference to be exact.[/QUOTE]
They could get that Gortat-Carter trade though I think, or at least Gortat + scrubs. If they get Carter he's an expiring. Gortat is one of the best backup Centres in the league, and could easily start.
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[QUOTE=2LeTTeRS]I guess given how well Bass has played this year this makes a little sense, but I still think Blatche has more value than Bass. I think I'm higher on him than most other poster's here but I see him a potential diamond in the rough.[/QUOTE]
I'm with you on that trade.
I don't think that much of either Blatche or Bass, but I think Blatche could potentially be a better fit next to Howard. Thornton's value and reputation has gone down the drawn these past two seasons, but the Magic might be exactly the type of team where he can be a good rotation player. And it's not like the Magic aren't in a position where they need to take a chance on a good rotation wing; Redick, Pietrus and Richardson aren't really doing that good right now.
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Re: Orlando Magic, Washington Wizards Close to Trading Rashard Lewis for Gilbert Arenas
Two seperate trades would certainly turn the magic into long time contenders.
Lewis to Washington for Arenas. The wiz need to get rid of Arenas, and Orlando needs to get rid of Lewis. That's a pretty fair trade.
The other trade would be a huge blockbuster, Gortat, Nelson and Carter and a first rounder for Chris Paul.
Orlando would be very good.
Paul Duhon Williams
Arenas Reddick
Pietrus Q Rich
Bass Anderson
Howard Malik Allen
N.O
Nelson, Jack
Carter, Thornton bellinelli
Ariza bellinelli
west Anderson.
Okafor Gortat
Respectable team at this point they are kind of nose diving, and with the league taking over the team, respectability is all they are going to get.
Orlando becomes more of a running team with paul, have a better inside out game with Arenas and can keep Bass in the starting line-up and space the floor with Anderson taking Rashard's job of three point shooting . I have no problem with bass, howard and Anderson being my 3 big man rotation. Gortat would be expendable in my view.