Kobe Bryant scores 61 points against Knicks in Madison Square Garden

lmao @ all the haters.

Integrity of the game? HAHA, get the eff outta here.

Fact: Kobe Bryant holds the record for the most points scored in the Garden.

Deal with it. No one is saying he's this or that, just that he had a great game.

Man, I can't imagine the type of crazy statlines Lebron, Kobe, or Wade would be putting up if they decide to sign with the Knicks. I don't think +60 to +80 point games 4 or 5 times a year would really be far-fetched.

[QUOTE=dajadeed]lmao @ all the haters.

Integrity of the game? HAHA, get the eff outta here.

Fact: Kobe Bryant holds the record for the most points scored in the Garden.

Deal with it. No one is saying he's this or that, just that he had a great game.[/QUOTE]

yep, it's Kobe haters/Jordan fans that brought the whole MJ vs Kobe into the discussion

BTW, for all the numbnut retards here bashing Kobe, there was a game on ESPN Classic a while back, Larry Legend in the 80s going against some team. Less than a minute left, Celtics up big, and the Celtics WERE FOULING the other team so Larry could hit the 60 point mark.

Some of you guys need to take your medication and realize that this is only a game. If Kobe is good enough to score at will against a team, then he better do that ****. If he's shooting 50% or better, KEEP SHOOTING THE DAMN BALL.

Appreciate this. Other players can do great things, no need to **** on a Kobe thread.

[QUOTE=Da_Realist]Tale of the tape.

[B][U]Michael Jordan[/U][/B]

April 20, 1986
63 vs Boston
Also had 5 rebs and 6 asts
Boston won 67 games in 86
Went on to become NBA Champions
[I]** Happened in the playoffs[/I]

[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198703040DET.html"]March 4, 1987[/URL]
61 vs Detroit
He also had 7 rebs, 3 asts, 3 stls and 3 blks
Detroit won 52 games in 87
Playoff team

[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198704160CHI.html"]April 16, 1987[/URL]
61 vs Atlanta
Also had 10 rebs, 1 ast, 4 stls and 1 blk
Atlanta won 57 games in 87
Playoff team

[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199003280CLE.html"]March 28, 1990[/URL]
69 vs Cleveland
Also had 18 rebs, 6 asts, 4 stls and 1 blk
Cleveland won 42 games in 90
Playoff team

[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199301160CHI.html"]January 16, 1993[/URL]
64 vs Orlando
Also had 6 rebs, 1 ast and 5 stls
Orlando won 41 games in 1993
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I think both of these factions are playing a meaningless game of back and forth... Both of these players have put forward a number of great efforts. Instead of comparing their games and downplaying the accomplishments of one player or another, we should simply marvel at what they have been able to accomplish and leave it at that.

Da_Realist, those were some excellent games on Jordan's part, and you made a good point concerning the level of competition Jordan was facing when he played those games, but if we're going to downplay accomplishments, one could easily point out that Jordan lost 3 of those 5 games in which he scored 60+ and that he was less efficient in those 5 60+ point games than Bryant has been in his 5 60+ point games, while averaging fewer points...

Understand that there is always a response... always a come back. This foolishness needs to stop. There are a few Bryant groupies here who have knowingly made provocative statements looking to bait other posters. Those posters should be ignored. After awhile, don't you guys get tired of the same arguments?

[QUOTE=Brunch@Five]yep, it's Kobe haters/Jordan fans that brought the whole MJ vs Kobe into the discussion[/QUOTE]

There have been Bryant groupies in here looking to provoke others though. Let's not overlook that as well.

[QUOTE=MaxFly]I think both of these factions are playing a meaningless game of back and forth... Both of these players have put forward a number of great efforts. Instead of comparing their games and downplaying the accomplishments of one player or another, we should simply marvel at what they have been able to accomplish and leave it at that.

Understand that there is always a response... always a come back. This foolishness needs to stop. There are a few Bryant groupies here who have knowingly made provocative statements looking to bait other posters. Those posters should be ignored. After awhile, don't you guys get tired of the same arguments?[/QUOTE] this is why Max is on top of the food chain.. nice post

[QUOTE=MaxFly] one could easily point out that Jordan lost 3 of those 5 games in which he scored 60+ and that he was less efficient in those 5 60+ point games than Bryant has been in his 5 60+ point games, while averaging fewer points...
[/QUOTE]
Wait a second. Are you trying to tell me that MJ lost games? And he didn't hit 100% of his shots? That goes against everything I've heard on here. :roll:

I'm sorry, I'll stop.

[QUOTE=MaxFly]Da_Realist, those were some excellent games on Jordan's part, and you made a good point concerning the level of competition Jordan was facing when he played those games, but if we're going to downplay accomplishments, one could easily point out that Jordan [B]lost 3 of those 5 games[/B] in which he scored 60+ and that [B]he was less efficient in those 5 60+ point games than Bryant has been in his 5 60+ point games, while averaging fewer points[/B]...[/QUOTE]

Sure. That happens when you play opponents that are capable of beating you... i.e. quality opponents.

He played his best against tougher teams when it mattered the most. I don't think that downgrades his performances. :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=243354]kobe-5 60+ games in 4 1/2 seasons as the no.1
mj-5 in his whole career.:roll:[/QUOTE]
The obvious response is:
Jordan - 6 Rings at the no. 1 option
Kobe - 0 Rings at the no. 1 option


But I don't really like to get in these things. I actually really like Kobe and hope he does well.

[QUOTE=KenneBell]Wait a second. Are you trying to tell me that MJ lost games? And he didn't hit 100% of his shots? That goes against everything I've heard on here. :roll:

I'm sorry, I'll stop.[/QUOTE]

Lol, I don't want people to focus on that aspect of my post. My goal was to point out that if people [B]want[/B] to nitpick, they [B]will[/B] nitpick, regardless of how trivial, regardless of how inconsequential the issue they've chosen to focus on. We create never ending arguments that really aren't all that important and only serve to distract from some of the great basketball we have been privileged to see.

[QUOTE=rox fa sho]60+ pts is no joke. when kobe starts doing 60 every game then its a joke.[/QUOTE]

Best quote of this thread period

[QUOTE=MaxFly]I think both of these factions are playing a meaningless game of back and forth... Both of these players have put forward a number of great efforts. Instead of comparing their games and downplaying the accomplishments of one player or another, we should simply marvel at what they have been able to accomplish and leave it at that.

Da_Realist, those were some excellent games on Jordan's part, and you made a good point concerning the level of competition Jordan was facing when he played those games, but if we're going to downplay accomplishments, one could easily point out that Jordan lost 3 of those 5 games in which he scored 60+ and that he was less efficient in those 5 60+ point games than Bryant has been in his 5 60+ point games, while averaging fewer points...

Understand that there is always a response... always a come back. This foolishness needs to stop. There are a few Bryant groupies here who have knowingly made provocative statements looking to bait other posters. Those posters should be ignored. After awhile, don't you guys get tired of the same arguments?[/QUOTE]

The Bulls won 3 of those 5 not lose them. But I agree with you. I think Jordan's was more impressive then Kobe's cause of the teams he played, but whatever. I don't see why Jordan supporters really still feel the need to come and defend Jordan over Kobe. Jordan vs. Kobe should've never been an argument in the first place, and it definitely should not be after what happened last year.

Fellow Jordan fans, I don't know why any of you feel the need to get into these arguments when Jordan's combination of accomplishments/skills/intangibles pretty much trumps Kobe's, and Kobe would really need a miracle at this point of his career to surpass him. One more 60+ point game isn't going to change that. Just appreciate Kobe for what he is, and that is an amazing player.

if anyone other than Kobe dropped that 61, there would not be any such fuss. It would just be high praise...and deservedly so.
Instead, we get all this, "well MJ blah blah blah"

One of my work mates went to this game, his first ever basketball game

LUCKY BASTARD!! :oldlol: