Shot 52 of 108 & 27 of 71 from 3.
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Shot 52 of 108 & 27 of 71 from 3.
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lmao, I could score 138 if I jacked up 71 threes in one game.
[QUOTE=cuad]lmao, I could score 138 if I jacked up 71 threes in one game.[/QUOTE]Who is his coach to let this kid shoot that many times :roll:
Is there even time enough in a game for a single guy to take that many shots?
I'm not sure I could deal with playing with a guy that took 100 shots. Think about what that would be like.
Wait, this was in one game? How in the hell is it even possible for one player to get up 108 shots in one game? Who was he playing against?
Haha, this is spectacular. Grinnell strikes again.
[QUOTE=KG215]Wait, this was in one game? How in the hell is it even possible for one player to get up 108 shots in one game? Who was he playing against?[/QUOTE]If you are not familiar, I would suggest researching Grinnell College's system.
Holy shit, my arm would fall off if I shot that many times in a game.
Unless I completely ignored the defensive aspect.
How the hell are you gonna score 138 points and not even shoot 50%?
wow smh 71 threes? Guy must have beeb trying to score 100+ right out the tunnel
Played 36 minutes. how the hell did that happen. His team scored 179 too lol.
Even Kobe would think that this was kindof selfish :)
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For the uninitiated, here's at least a piece of what Grinnell shoots for:
[quote]It's a "run and gun" offense with offensive possessions often lasting only five seconds in duration (12 seconds at the most), usually resulting in a 3-point shot. Grinnell tries to get over 100 shots per game and over 50 - 60% of those as 3-point shots. They crash the offensive boards with four rebounders, going for the long rebound off missed 3-point shots.
Defensively, Grinnell full-court presses the entire game, using several press defenses, forcing the tempo, trying to create turnovers. They usually force about 28 turnovers per game, but their goal is 32. These forced turnovers often result in easy baskets in transition. Half-court defense is not a huge priority... opponents may score in the half-court, but Coach Arseneault believes his team can simply out-score them using their offensive system and their press defenses.
Of his 15 players, Coach Arseneault will typically have 4 - 6 squads of five players (various 5-player combinations) that he uses. He will substitute five new players every two minutes or so, keeping fresh legs in the game at all times, wearing the opponent down by the end of the game. Many players will get playing time and no-one plays the entire game. You will need two or three good point-guards who can score, otherwise forget this system.[/quote]
There's a high school coach around my way who runs the system, but with much less success. His team shot 4% from the arc on like, 50 attempts against my brother's school.
Honestly, if I shot that much ... regardless of scoring 138 points, on less than 50% shooting.
I'd feel utterly embarrassed for alienating teammates. I'd feel selfish just looking at the score board.
Here's the box score. lol.
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[QUOTE=Money 23]Honestly, if I shot that much ... regardless of scoring 138 points, on less than 50% shooting.
I'd feel utterly embarrassed for alienating teammates. I'd feel selfish just looking at the score board.[/QUOTE]Under normal circumstances, perhaps. In the Grinnell system though, firing at will is everyday living.
that system sounds like my 2k assocation
[QUOTE=Rake2204]Under normal circumstances, perhaps. In the Grinnell system though, firing at will is everyday living.[/QUOTE]
Come on ...
The next closest player shot 5 shots. You can't condone this type of basketball.
0 assists :lol
Just read that team doctors reported that his right arm fell off while in the shower.
Ohhh...he did at Grinnell. Ok, that makes sense. I remember an ESPN Magazine article on them a few years back. I can see how he got that many shots off in that system.
I can't even score 138 points with one dude in 2k13. Man I suck.
Kobe would score 300 in that system.
[QUOTE=Rake2204]Haha, this is spectacular. Grinnell strikes again.
If you are not familiar, I would suggest researching Grinnell College's system.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I didn't realize he did it for Grinnell. After that ESPN Magazine article I read (5+ years ago) it piqued my interest, so I did some research and read more about them.
[QUOTE=Money 23]Come on ...
The next closest player shot 5 shots. You can't condone this type of basketball.[/QUOTE]I think it'd be a heckuva system to be a part of, or at least something worth experiencing for a bit. I mean, it's zany, but this guy was undoubtedly doing what he was instructed to do. If they've got a gunner, they'll have him gun. He wasn't a rogue agent hogging the rock. The system is unique enough to not really leave the door open for people to be upset about their shots or role.
I like seeing teams in all sports employing strategies deemed non-traditional and unique. The fact Grinnell's won a bit with this system only seems to vindicate it.
[QUOTE=Rake2204]I think it'd be a heckuva system to be a part of, or at least something worth experiencing for a bit. I mean, it's zany, but this guy was undoubtedly doing what he was instructed to do. If they've got a gunner, they'll have him gun. He wasn't a rogue agent hogging the rock. The system is unique enough to not really leave the door open for people to be upset about their shots or role.[/QUOTE]
You don't think anyone is salty they only shot 5 shots, even though some shmuck shot 71 three pointers?
Come on, I don't care how zany ... you still find ways to get someone else the ball at times.
[img]http://pioneers.grinnell.edu/images/2012/10/25/MBB-8046-TAYLOR.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Money 23]You don't think anyone is salty they only shot 5 shots, even though some shmuck shot 71 three pointers?
Come on, I don't care how zany ... you still find ways to get someone else the ball at times.[/QUOTE]I really don't mean this offensively, but I'm not sure we're completely at an understanding of the system they employ. There's not really a time or place to be worried about shots. No one steps into Grinnell's basketball program not knowing things are going to be more different than they ever imagined.
Moreover, their goal is to shoot as quickly as possible. That means, more than likely, Jack getting this many shots was pre-meditated by the team and definitely not something he decided to take upon himself. It's not like a regular game where most players touch the ball each possession and have an opportunity to decided whether or not to shoot.
Here's one clip of how things look in a typical Grinnell contest: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZgKFLadcfM[/url]
This reminds of when I used to ball in my elementary school yard basketball court. We were all a bunch of balls hogs and would fight for rebounds and dribble and jack up shots without hardly passing the ball.
[QUOTE=Rake2204]I really don't mean this offensively, but I'm not sure we're completely at an understanding of the system they employ. There's not really a time or place to be worried about shots. No one steps into Grinnell's basketball program not knowing things are going to be more different than they ever imagined.
Moreover, their goal is to shoot as quickly as possible. That means, more than likely, Jack getting this many shots was pre-meditated by the team and definitely not something he decided to take upon himself. It's not like a regular game where most players touch the ball each possession and have an opportunity to decided whether or not to shoot.
Here's one clip of how things look in a typical Grinnell contest: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZgKFLadcfM[/url][/QUOTE]
My girls college team ran this offense(we traveled together so I saw prob 50 games of this). They lead all schools in scoring. I have picked the coaches brain several times. Looks like it was done on purpose. Also, traditionally the system at Grinnel has line changes. Looks like he altered it because guy played 36 minutes. Regardless, seems like a lot of shots for this offense.
[QUOTE=Court Vision][img]http://pioneers.grinnell.edu/images/2012/10/25/MBB-8046-TAYLOR.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
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Prime MJ and Wilt can't hold a candle to this GOAT among men :bowdown: :bowdown:
He scored more points in one game than Lebron has scored in all of the 4th quarters combined in his entire career
Not even one assist?:biggums:
I would be ashamed. He wasn't even HOT.
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]My girls college team ran this offense(we traveled together so I saw prob 50 games of this). They lead all schools in scoring. I have picked the coaches brain several times. Looks like it was done on purpose. Also, traditionally the system at Grinnel has line changes. Looks like he altered it because guy played 36 minutes. Regardless, seems like a lot of shots for this offense.[/QUOTE]Good stuff. I read another article a few years ago about a season at Grinnell where they fell out of contention, so the coach and team decided to set a few NCAA records as their end-of-season goals, specifically a few scoring records for their top shooter. So, planned records seems well within the realm of possibility here. I was thinking the same thing when I saw the 36 minutes.
[QUOTE=Rake2204]Good stuff. I read another article a few years ago about a season at Grinnell where they fell out of contention, so the coach and team decided to set a few NCAA records as their end-of-season goals, specifically a few scoring records for their top shooter. So, planned records seems well within the realm of possibility here. I was thinking the same thing when I saw the 36 minutes.[/QUOTE]
Personally, I disagree with the style. But it is good for recruiting and the teams have a ton of fun. On thing I hated was that they would run schools off the court and never slow up. It would be 130 to 39 with 45 seconds left and he would have these girls full court pressing.
Am I the only person who finds this impressive? He still had to make those shots he was putting up.
Here's video of what the [i]previous[/i] Grinnell record looked like (Lentsch's 89 points): [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nIQVxbKhRw[/url]
Has to be a weird feeling to drop 89... only to have your record broken by almost 40 a year later.
Apparently a guy on the other team hit 34/44 fga. that's pretty impressive shooting.
[QUOTE=ihoopallday]Am I the only person who finds this impressive? He still had to make those shots he was putting up.[/QUOTE]
He was 38% from 3.
It's okay.
[QUOTE=Court Vision]He was 38% from 3.
It's okay.[/QUOTE]
38% at that volume, when you take fatigue into account is insane.
[QUOTE=outbreak]Apparently a guy on the other team hit 34/44 fga. that's pretty impressive shooting.[/QUOTE]Well another aspect of the Grinnell system is they're awfully willing to give up a free bucket in the half court, so the opposition's statistics also tend to bloat when they play. Grinnell's goal is pretty much to force a turnover with their full court pressure. If that fails, they'll often concede a two point basket just so they can quickly come the other way and fire another triple and get back into their defensive pressure. The idea is to out score the opposition through turnovers and shear volume.
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]Personally, I disagree with the style. But it is good for recruiting and the teams have a ton of fun. On thing I hated was that they would run schools off the court and never slow up. It would be 130 to 39 with 45 seconds left and he would have these girls full court pressing.[/QUOTE]Ha, that ties in pretty well to a discussion I was having on this website yesterday (regarding Damian Lillard's end-of-game dunk). I feel the system is known well enough for coaches and players to understand that it's something that's going to occur for the duration of the game. There's no off button. Down is up. Black is white. All bets are off. I'd have to believe most teams know full well that when a Grinnell system team runs to the end, it's nothing remotely close to being unsportsmanlike, it's just the system being the system. It's based upon being able to play a mega speed for the duration of a contest, no ifs, ands, or buts.
That said, contrary to the Lillard discussion yesterday, a terribly outmatched college opponent drawing issue with a full court press late in a contest is quite understandable to me. I feel like if any team [i]but[/i] one with a Grinnell type system were pulling it off, it'd be a rightful issue. You mentioned the 130-39 example. I could see where some would have an issue. If I were the coach of the team with 39 though, I'd understand that's just how the system operates.