Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
[QUOTE=Johnny32;14523324]lol @ her desperate one series examples. pippen was third in mvp voting for an entire 82 gm season.[/QUOTE]
So was Blake Griffin.. It's nothing
MVP is based mostly on surprise factor and doesn't measure league ranking
Ultimately, 22/5 and 55 wins is a garbage peak matched or exceeded by guys like Marc Gasol... KJ... Blake... [I]everyone[/I].... Furthermore, every other sidekick led the team at some point except Pippen, so only Pippen was carried in every series while also having the lowest peak capability (22/5).
After the no-pressure period and surprise factor ended in the 94' Playoffs, the REAL bulls without MJ were borderline lottery in 95' before MJ returned to restore 3-peat caliber - so Pippen destroyed a 3-peat dynasty to 2nd Round and borderline lottery in less than 18 months, at which point he begged MJ to return by famously pointing at his Jordan logo in front of the camera during a game.
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
[QUOTE=3ba11;14523041]The 2nd three-peat (98')
Then the 1st (93')
Otoh, how many three-peat rings for Lebron?
How many rings for Lebron where he defeated defensive attention on the highest level? (carried scoring load in the Finals)
So lebron's rings are dogshit compared to Jordan... If Pippen destroyed MVP Barkley or Malone, that's the only way Jordan's ring quality could be reduced to Lebron's best ring[/QUOTE]
:lol
Are you attempting to lump three 90s rings into one in an attempt to make them appear better than they really are? Very telling...
So then none of MJ's rings stand alone as anything great?
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14523336]Guys![/QUOTE]
Avoiding like the plague
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired[/url]
[url]https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT[/url]
Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher[/url]
Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2[/url]
Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED[/url]
Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2[/url]
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.
Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14[/url]
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds
[url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html[/url]
And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster[/url]
Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10?[/url] Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head[/url]
Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron[/url]
Devin Booker broke Lebron
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season[/url]
[url]https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats[/url]
Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600[/url]
How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry[/url]
Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360[/url]
Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac[/url]
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.
Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.
LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming[/url]
[url]https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html[/url]
[QUOTE]
"The weatherman says the weather is changing soon and predicts a thunderstorm," LeBron wrote alongside a photo of himself and Anthony Davis. "It's coming. Prepare and take proper caution measures to stay safe."
[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James[/url]
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:
[url]http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html[/url]
6 rings in 11 full seasons without super-teams > 4 in 19 with them
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500799-6-rings-in-11-full-seasons-without-super-teams-gt-4-in-19-with-them&p=14512408&viewfull=1#post14512408[/url]
Lebron quit on the Cavs and they burned his jersey and held his family hostage. He also only won 1 title for the franchise that drafted him which is pathetic in 11 years. Imagine someone getting credit when they lose with Shaq and only get to round 2 and they lose with peak Duncan getting bronze medal.
Has Jordan ever advanced to the Finals while shooting 3-11?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500771-Has-Jordan-ever-advanced-to-the-Finals-while-shooting-3-11&p=14512449&viewfull=1#post14512449[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500785-How-can-a-mentally-tough-player-like-Michael-Jordan-retire-3-times&p=14512505&viewfull=1#post14512505[/url]
Jordan broke players. Whereas Lebron got broken by players such as Devin Booker, Dirk, Dwight Howard
You can show me when Lebron won with Shaq or with Tim Duncan a gold medal and I'll concede. I'm waiting *****.
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
[QUOTE=TheCorporation;14523410]:lol
Are you attempting to lump three 90s rings into one in an attempt to make them appear better than they really are? Very telling...
So then none of MJ's rings stand alone as anything great?[/QUOTE]
Lebron completely collapsed during his three-peat attempt as his preseason favorite ended up losing by record amount to some old guys - a basketball lesson by the old guys at YMCA named Duncan and Uncle Baldy Ginobili..
He collapsed despite having an extra all-star teammate compared to Jordan's teams
Curry/Durant also collapsed in 2019 when they tried to 3-peat
Even the great Kobe collapsed in 2011
ONLY JORDAN could 3-peat.... And prime Shaq/Kobe.... But only Jordan could 3-peat TWICE... that's why his 98' ring is the goat ring, followed by 93', 92' (vastly underrated - a carry-job.. 2-way carry-job against a completely stacked opposing roster), 97', 91' and 96'
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Wall of text about LeBron :lol Fraud response.
Keep it simple: what was MJ's best ring?
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired[/url]
[url]https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495940-Lebron-with-Shaq-2nd-round-exit-Giannis-with-Middleton-a-Title[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495955-Giannis-just-blasted-those-who-join-super-teams-in-post-conference-interview[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493982-Devin-Booker-Vs-Lebron-James-who-is-better-currently[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496253-Lebron-won-2-bronze-medals-for-the-United-States-of-America-How[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496256-Lebron-with-Tim-Duncan-Bronze-Medal-in-Olympics-Vince-with-KG-Gold-Medal[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496255-Lebron-with-Carlos-Boozer-No-Playoffs-Deron-Williams-with-Carlos-Boozer-WCF[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?492941-1-Title-in-11-Years-for-the-Franchise-that-you-originally-played-for[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496831-times-when-each-top-10-player-all-time-Lost-when-they-were-expected-to-win[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?486706-Rob-Parker-LeBron-is-the-FFOAT[/url]
Record against teams with an SRS of 5.0 or higher.
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497187-Record-against-teams-with-an-SRS-of-5-0-or-higher[/url]
Not 3, not 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or Playoff Mode Activated or A Storm is Coming
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494319-Not-3-not-4-5-6-7-8-or-Playoff-Mode-Activated-or-A-Storm-is-Coming/page2[/url]
Playoff Mode: ACTIVATED
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?473762-Playoff-Mode-ACTIVATED[/url]
Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?463869-Lowest-Scoring-Supporting-Cast-Overall-Playoffs/page3[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499837-Greatest-floor-raise-of-all-time/page2[/url]
Lebron played with Shaq who won league mvp and 3 finals mvp's and lost in round 2. Lebron played with Peak Duncan who had won 2 league mvp's and 3 finals mvp's and won bronze medal. Lebron played with Peak Wade who won finals mvp and got outplayed by Jason Terry. Lebron played with Derrick Rose who won mvp under age 30 which was the same as Kevin Durant who won mvp under 30 while both were on Golden State and Cleveland. Lebron played with mulitple PER leaders as well and now Russell Westbrook a league mvp winner and more triple doubles than Oscar Robertson. Yet despite all of that Lebron lost with all of them.
Jarrett Allen vs Gobert and Jarrett Allen vs Lebron
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?499786-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Gobert-and-Jarrett-Allen-vs-Lebron[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500431-Lakers-were-1-in-Preseason-Odds-in-2021-and-Suns-were-14[/url]
Was #1 in Preseason odds and lost to a 14th seed in odds
[url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_preseason_odds.html[/url]
And Devin Booker walked them down in the playoffs with Devin outplaying Lebron. :confusedshrug:
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500416-Why-did-Pelinka-surround-Lebron-with-a-bullshit-roster[/url]
Why didn't he play it against Dwight Howard in 2009 when Dwight was dominating [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?459570-How-is-it-even-possible-to-lose-to-Dwight-Howard-in-a-series-with-HCA/page10?[/url] Or against Duncan or KG or Dirk? Why did he run away from KD a guy at his position?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?489748-When-KD-and-Lebron-go-head-to-head[/url]
Why didn't he do **** against Booker in the playoffs as well?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496095-Devin-Booker-put-up-47-his-playoff-career-high-on-Lebron[/url]
Devin Booker broke Lebron
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500264-Devin-Booker-broke-Lebron&p=14500724[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500440-Russell-Westbrook-leading-the-league-in-Triple-Doubles-Thus-far-in-2022-Season[/url]
[url]https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/triple-double-leaders-2021-2022-stats[/url]
Expected Championships Won and Titles Over Expected
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500379-Expected-Championships-Won-and-Titles-Over-Expected/page3&p=14503600[/url]
How did LeBron go 10-16 vs Kawhi? 7-12 vs Shaq? 17-23 vs Curry?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500334-How-did-LeBron-go-10-16-vs-Kawhi-7-12-vs-Shaq-17-23-vs-Curry[/url]
Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #1
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?497028-Top-50-All-Time-List-Shot-Clock-Era-1&p=14426360&viewfull=1#post14426360[/url]
Difference between Lebron and Tmac?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?494830-Difference-between-Lebron-and-Tmac[/url]
Both 0-2 with HCA against 50+ win teams until they joined forces with someone who won as the man. Also won bronze medals.
Tmac lost to Utah in 2007 while Lebron was losing to a career loser in Dwight Howard and also Carlos Arroyo in the Olympics with peak Tim Duncan on his squad despite playing more minutes than Hakeem even played on the 1996 Olympic team.
LeBron's message that makes the NBA shake: A storm is coming
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500734-LeBron-s-message-that-makes-the-NBA-shake-A-storm-is-coming[/url]
[url]https://www.marca.com/en/more-sports/2021/04/09/6070b833ca47418e588b45e9.html[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480740-Vasileios-Spanoulis-gt-gt-gt-Lebron-James[/url]
Outplayed Lebron in FIBA and caused America to get another bronze medal and then Greece got spanked in Gold medal final.:oldlol:
[url]http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/game/p/gid/A/grid/75/rid/5152/sid/3507/_/2006_FIBA_World_Championship/statistic.html[/url]
6 rings in 11 full seasons without super-teams > 4 in 19 with them
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500799-6-rings-in-11-full-seasons-without-super-teams-gt-4-in-19-with-them&p=14512408&viewfull=1#post14512408[/url]
Lebron quit on the Cavs and they burned his jersey and held his family hostage. He also only won 1 title for the franchise that drafted him which is pathetic in 11 years. Imagine someone getting credit when they lose with Shaq and only get to round 2 and they lose with peak Duncan getting bronze medal.
Has Jordan ever advanced to the Finals while shooting 3-11?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500771-Has-Jordan-ever-advanced-to-the-Finals-while-shooting-3-11&p=14512449&viewfull=1#post14512449[/url]
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?500785-How-can-a-mentally-tough-player-like-Michael-Jordan-retire-3-times&p=14512505&viewfull=1#post14512505[/url]
Jordan broke players. Whereas Lebron got broken by players such as Devin Booker, Dirk, Dwight Howard
You can show me when Lebron won with Shaq or with Tim Duncan a gold medal and I'll concede. I'm waiting *****.
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Beat the bad boys Pistons who won back to back titles as well as the showtime lakers. Lebron lost with peak Shaq with HCA and won bronze with peak Duncan. Lebron also lost with HCA against a career loser in Dwight Howard.
Lebron had to leave to get a ring while MJ formed a dynasty with a franchise that had never won before.
Jordan never lost with HCA. Lebron lost with HCA three years in a row and won bronze medal twice.
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
[QUOTE=kawhileonard2;14523459]Beat the bad boys Pistons who won back to back titles as well as the showtime lakers. Lebron lost with peak Shaq with HCA and won bronze with peak Duncan. Lebron also lost with HCA against a career loser in Dwight Howard.
Lebron had to leave to get a ring while MJ formed a dynasty with a franchise that had never won before*.
Jordan never lost with HCA. Lebron lost with HCA three years in a row and won bronze medal twice.[/QUOTE]
*during the weakest NBA decade
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Still amazes me his PR team or the networks or whatever, managed to fool the stupid that he was anywhere near close to MJ.
It's not even the discussion we should be having
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
The poster above me can be found at St Kilda beach exchanging his ass for methamphetamine most weekends.
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
[QUOTE=Johnny32;14523099]lol dude said mj's best ring was this run.
1st rd vs nets (leading scorer [B]sherman douglas[/B] ([B]18 ppg[/B]), second option [B]kerry kittles[/B] ([B]16 ppg[/B])
2nd rd vs hornets (leading scorer [B]glen rice[/B] ([B]22 ppg[/B]), second option [B]anthony mason[/B] ([B]12 ppg[/B])
3rd rd vs pacers (leading scorer [B]reggie miller[/B] ([B]17 ppg[/B]), second option [B]rik smits[/B] ([B]16 ppg[/B])
finals vs jazz (leading scorer [B]karl malone[/B] ([B]25 ppg[/B]), second option [B]jeff hornacek[/B] ([B]10 ppg[/B])
lol jfc the mid 90s was horrific.[/QUOTE]
Wait, someone said this was a quality ring?? :roll: Man, talk about:
[video=youtube;yiJ9fy1qSFI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI[/video]
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
[QUOTE=TheGoatest;14523577]Wait, someone said this was a quality ring?? :roll: Man, talk about:
[video=youtube;yiJ9fy1qSFI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI[/video][/QUOTE]
:roll:
They still cant answer a simlple question. No wonder.
Re: Why are MJ's rings so embarrassing? Meanwhile...LeBron's so great?
105,000 views
Zero answers :lol
Dey know why :pimp: