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Who should the Utah Jazz get in the offseason?
If anyone has a better list of this years free agent class, please post.
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=FreeAgents-11-12[/url]
Who do you guys think we could/should get in the off season, or should we resign Andrei? If Andrei leaves, we have a gap at the SF position, there's quite a few solid SF's out there that could be a good replacement for AK-47, any other positions you think we should fill (like the SG position maybe). CJ Miles is actually a free agent this year, but it's a team option, so I'm thinking we'll keep him.
Personally I think we should maybe try going after Tayshaun Prince, or even Caron Butler, even though he is injured.
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There was an article over at the Bleacher Report about this
[url]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/585430-10-players-jazz-should-pursue-in-2011-to-keep-deron-williams-happy?search_query=utah%20jazz%2010[/url]
I like the idea of bringing over Ante Tomic, however I don't know the details of his current contract, or if he even wants to move. Shane Battier is another guy who'd make sense, but I don't know if he wants to leave Houston (Or if they want to resign him).
Honestly though, I don't like the idea of adding early 30's guys like Caron Butler or Jason Richardson to the team. They're going to be going for their last contracts so they'll be holding out for the $ and I don't think they're good enough to keep Deron happy. You'll end up with a situation like Denver has where they'll lose Carmelo, but be stuck with mediocre talents on decent $ deals like Al Harrington and Chris Anderson for another 3-4 years, when you'll be trying to shed salary so you can rebuild.
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[QUOTE=El Kabong]There was an article over at the Bleacher Report about this
[url]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/585430-10-players-jazz-should-pursue-in-2011-to-keep-deron-williams-happy?search_query=utah%20jazz%2010[/url]
I like the idea of bringing over Ante Tomic, however I don't know the details of his current contract, or if he even wants to move. Shane Battier is another guy who'd make sense, but I don't know if he wants to leave Houston (Or if they want to resign him).
Honestly though, I don't like the idea of adding early 30's guys like Caron Butler or Jason Richardson to the team. They're going to be going for their last contracts so they'll be holding out for the $ and I don't think they're good enough to keep Deron happy. You'll end up with a situation like Denver has where they'll lose Carmelo, but be stuck with mediocre talents on decent $ deals like Al Harrington and Chris Anderson for another 3-4 years, when you'll be trying to shed salary so you can rebuild.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit! He's 7'2? Couldn't really tell from that video.
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[QUOTE=DeronMillsap]Holy shit! He's 7'2? Couldn't really tell from that video.[/QUOTE]
Yep, he looks smaller in the vid. But it's not the best quality either.
Just read on Wikipedia he signed a 3 1/2 year deal with Real Madrid last year. So I guess that rules him out.
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I wonder who's more valuable to the Grizzlies, Randolph or Marc Gasol. If they choose Randolph over Gasol, I wouldn't mind seeing Gasol as our starting center so we can move Jefferson to the PF spot.
I'm not sure what the Grizzlies salary cap situation is though.
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[QUOTE=DeronMillsap]I wonder who's more valuable to the Grizzlies, Randolph or Marc Gasol. If they choose Randolph over Gasol, I wouldn't mind seeing as our starting center so we can move Jefferson to the PF spot.
I'm not sure what the Grizzlies salary cap situation is though.[/QUOTE]
They just gave Gay and Conley extensions and Randolph is a FA next year. Their owner can be cheap at times, I'd say he'd resign one, but not both. Gasol is restricted however, so Grizzlies may match if he accepts a decent deal from another team.
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[QUOTE=El Kabong]They just gave Gay and Conley extensions and Randolph is a FA next year. Their owner can be cheap at times, I'd say he'd resign one, but not both. Gasol is restricted however, so Grizzlies may match if he accepts a decent deal from another team.[/QUOTE]
Unless Gasol gets overpaid by another team, I assume they'll resign him. I think he'd be more important to them than Randolph.
Plus, they have Arthur. He's good off the bench and even had played well when Randolph was injured. Not as good as Z-bo though.
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get a 3-point shooter please
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[quote]Who do you guys think we could/should get in the off season, or should we resign Andrei? If Andrei leaves, we have a gap at the SF position, there's quite a few solid SF's out there that could be a good replacement for AK-47, any other positions you think we should fill (like the SG position maybe). CJ Miles is actually a free agent this year, but it's a team option, so I'm thinking we'll keep him.
Personally I think we should maybe try going after Tayshaun Prince, or even Caron Butler, even though he is injured.[/quote]
First, you have to remember unless the Jazz can offer a better deal most players won't play for them. Maybe a few more now that the old man finally hung them up!!! Prince and Butler will go for the money or for a ring which isn't Utah.
Andrei wants to be in Utah so if the price is right you have to look at keeping him. Let's see if they keep him the rest of the month first though.
[quote]I like the idea of bringing over Ante Tomic, however I don't know the details of his current contract, or if he even wants to move. [/quote]
His buyout is like 5 million dollars this off-season and from what I saw in August/September he's not worth it. He didn't look as good as Koufos to me.
[quote]Shane Battier is another guy who'd make sense, but I don't know if he wants to leave Houston (Or if they want to resign him).[/quote]
Again why would he come to Utah over Boston or Miami or Dallas or SA unless they have the money which doesn't look likely?
[quote]I don't like the idea of adding early 30's guys like Caron Butler or Jason Richardson to the team. They're going to be going for their last contracts so they'll be holding out for the $ and I don't think they're good enough to keep Deron happy. You'll end up with a situation like Denver has where they'll lose Carmelo, but be stuck with mediocre talents on decent $ deals like Al Harrington and Chris Anderson for another 3-4 years, when you'll be trying to shed salary so you can rebuild.[/quote]
Again beggers can't be choosy In Utah you take what you can get on the FA market. Their best hope will be with Okur's expiring deal.
[quote]I wouldn't mind seeing Gasol as our starting center so we can move Jefferson to the PF spot.[/quote]
And that leaves their 2nd best player Millsap where? Dream on about Gasol. Kaman has to be available. Probably have to give up Millsap though unless you can find a taker for Okur and/or Jefferson(the dream scenario).
[quote]and even had played well when Randolph was injured[/quote]
And as the starter as a rookie before injury and Randolph.
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I guess we can use this thread too for the 2011 Draft.
[url]http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft[/url]
Nets pick is currently at top 6.
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Nets pick will be falling in all likely hood and the Jazz‘s rising. Any great centers coming out in the next couple years? One thing they've never had. A great swingman would certainly be welcome too.
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[quote]Kevin O'Connor: On needing to get something for Williams before he potentially left during free agency:
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[quote][URL="http://espn.go.com/nba/notebook?page=dailydimelive"][COLOR=#0000ff]Lots of interest in Millsap especially.[/COLOR][/URL] [/quote]
I'm sure every team in the league would love to have him and his contract.
[quote]As for the picks --- right now in our Mock Draft we have them getting Harrison Barnes and Kawhi Leonard. [URL="http://espn.go.com/nba/notebook?page=dailydimelive"][COLOR=#0000ff]ESPN.com[/COLOR][/URL][/quote]
PF's?
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[quote]Brian T. Smith: [URL="http://*********.com/twitter_media.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]No one's untouchable on Jazz roster[/COLOR][/URL]. [/quote]
Ya think? ROTLMAO!!!
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[quote][URL="http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/art_garcia/02/24/trades-balance-of-power/"][COLOR=#0000ff]"The West is not dominating any more," said Utah center Al Jefferson, who started his career in Boston. "It's equal now, if not I think the East got the edge. It's a lot of great teams over there in the East, but as you know it's a dogfight every day in the West for a playoff spot.[/COLOR][/URL] In a day you can go from [the four seed] to seven like it's nothing. But I think the East is getting to that point now." [/quote]
East is probably better 1-5 maybe 6 now but west still deeper even with the Denver/Utah trades.
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Barnes and Leonard are SF's, and there's also Jordan Hamilton out of Texas.
Whatever we do I hope we don't waste a 1srt round pick on The Jimmer.
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[quote]Alex Kennedy: [URL="http://*********.com/twitter_media.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]The Hawks are also shopping Zaza Pachulia.[/COLOR][/URL] He was held out of last night's game as the team worked the phones. [COLOR=#0000ff][/quote][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#0000ff]He would have been a nice pick-up.[/COLOR]
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[quote]Whatever we do I hope we don't waste a 1srt round pick on The Jimmer.[/quote]
Looks like he could be one of the guys available when they draft and I'm sure they'll look at a pg and hopefully a center though there doesn't seem to be many of them. Maybe a trade for a young center instead?
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[quote]Ken Berger: Minnesota and Utah will continue to explore a Raja Bell deal, but [URL="http://*********.com/twitter_media.html"][COLOR=#0000ff]sources say it could be more likely to happen around the draft[/COLOR][/URL]. [/quote]
So much for bringing Raja back this year.
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[quote][URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-anthonyknicks022411"][COLOR=#0000ff]King hadn
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]Looks like he could be one of the guys available when they draft and I'm sure they'll look at a pg and hopefully a center though there doesn't seem to be many of them. Maybe a trade for a young center instead?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, there's only a bunch of undersized PF's from what I've read.
I suppose we go after a back-up passer-first PG and a SG/SF wing guy.
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[quote] there's only a bunch of undersized PF's from what I've read[/quote]
Can't have too many of them.
[quote]I suppose we go after a back-up passer-first PG and a SG/SF wing guy.[/quote]
Already have young guys in Hayward and Miles on the wing. I'd look for veteran help there especially with AK possibly gone and Bell hopefully dealt to Minny.
Need lots of help in the middle. Young and veteran. The 3 PF starting line-up just doesn't cut it surprising as it is.
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From an O'Conner article.
[quote]Utah is positioned to emerge as a stronger, more viable organization when the NBA frees itself from what many predict will be a lengthy, debilitating lockout next season. Everything from increased revenue sharing and a hard salary cap to a franchise-player tag
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What position should we draft for? I think we need a PG or a SG right now, Hayward is a SG/SF, but he's been a disappointment so far. Maybe we could have have Jimmer Fredette, but a lot of people are pointing him towards being a JJ Redick/Adam Morrison. The PG is pretty weak outside of Kyrie Irving, Fredette and Kemba Walker aren't really true PG's.
Either we need to draft a good PG/SG, or we need to pick someone up in free agency like Jamal Crawford or Jason Richardson.
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[quote]What position should we draft for? I think we need a PG or a SG right now[/quote]
We need a young center not named Fesenko and a young pg to develop behind Harris and Watson not named Price.
[quote]Hayward is a SG/SF, but he's been a disappointment so far. [/quote]
A disappoinment that he hasn't been down in the D-League developing with Evans cuz the Jazz didn't sign a couple vets.
[quote]Maybe we could have have Jimmer Fredette, but a lot of people are pointing him towards being a JJ Redick/Adam Morrison. [/quote]
Big difference between Redick and Morrison. Redick can play. Morrison is still waiting for a call. Can't see him getting it. He sucks.
[quote]The PG is pretty weak outside of Kyrie Irving, Fredette and Kemba Walker aren't really true PG's.[/quote]
Why they're looking at a guy like Flynn probably.
[quote]Either we need to draft a good PG/SG, or we need to pick someone up in free agency like Jamal Crawford or Jason Richardson.[/quote]
Why not both?
I'd look for vets on the wings and young guys at the point and in the middle. And of course any and all PF's you can lay your hands on. Can't have enough of them.
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I really hope we get rid of Ronnie Price, he's been an energy guy for us, but I think his time is up with Utah, I also like Earl Watson, and I think we should consider keeping him, but I think we should try going after Sundiata Gaines again, he's making a big impact off the bench with the Nets in the past couple weeks and he's proved he can play.
If we don't get a SG/SF in the draft, we need to go after Jamal Crawford/Jason Richardson.
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[LEFT][COLOR=#000000][quote]I really hope we get rid of Ronnie Price, he's been an energy guy for us, but I think his time is up with Utah, I also like Earl Watson, and I think we should consider keeping him, but I think we should try going after Sundiata Gaines again, he's making a big impact off the bench with the Nets in the past couple weeks and he's proved he can play.[/quote]
Should definitely look to keep Watson which leaves one spot open and they should be looking for their future starter not Gaines.
[quote]If we don't get a SG/SF in the draft, we need to go after Jamal Crawford/Jason Richardson.[/quote]
Would they sign? Mayo is a lot better option. He's obviously available.
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Why not try getting Gaines? Ronnie Price has been garbage this year, Gaines has provided a great spark off the bench for the Nets and if you look at the +/-, he's been in the +5-+10 range every game. He's proving a lot of energy, and putting up good numbers in the assists column for a bench player, and he can shoot better then Watson.
Earl does a good job, but he isn't a great shooter, which he doesn't always need to do, but Sundiata has a lot of potential given minutes IMO.
Mayo might be a better option if we can get him for less money, but I'd rather get Jason Richardson or Jamal Crawford.
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Also, hopefully we at least bring over Ante Tomic from Real Madrid next year and see what he can do for us, because Elson and Fesenko aren't cutting it and never will.
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[quote]Why not try getting Gaines? Ronnie Price has been garbage this year, Gaines has provided a great spark off the bench for the Nets and if you look at the +/-, he's been in the +5-+10 range every game. He's proving a lot of energy, and putting up good numbers in the assists column for a bench player, and he can shoot better then Watson.
Earl does a good job, but he isn't a great shooter, which he doesn't always need to do, but Sundiata has a lot of potential given minutes[/quote]
I like Gaines and prefer him to Price(always been garbage outside some defensive energy) and if they get a young guy that is ready to back-up Harris(Flynn?) than Gaines would be a nice 3rd guy.
[quote]Mayo might be a better option if we can get him for less money, but I'd rather get Jason Richardson or Jamal Crawford.[/quote]
Mayo will be on the last year of his rookie contract so should come cheaper and a more realistic option. Unless the Jazz overpay for the other two they are unlikely to woo them to SLC. Not sure anyone in the draft is as good as Mayo? Miles isn't.
[quote]hopefully we at least bring over Ante Tomic from Real Madrid next year and see what he can do for us[/quote]
He could be the young option in the middle but he didn't look worth the 5 million dollar buyout it will cost to bring him over.
[quote]because Elson and Fesenko aren't cutting it and never will[/quote]
Don't foget Okur. LMAO!
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]I like Gaines and prefer him to Price(always been garbage outside some defensive energy) and if they get a young guy that is ready to back-up Harris(Flynn?) than Gaines would be a nice 3rd guy.
Mayo will be on the last year of his rookie contract so should come cheaper and a more realistic option. Unless the Jazz overpay for the other two they are unlikely to woo them to SLC. Not sure anyone in the draft is as good as Mayo? Miles isn't.
He could be the young option in the middle but he didn't look worth the 5 million dollar buyout it will cost to bring him over.
Don't foget Okur. LMAO![/QUOTE]
Even if he did look the goods, the $5 million buy out would probably mean he wouldn't be coming over anyway.
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Memo's been shut down for the year now. Hopefully they'll get a decent backup big in the off-season instead of Fes or Elson because I dunno how much longer Okur will last.
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They'll have the money to pay Tomic if they think he's worth it. Who knows how much of the buyout he would be willing to eat? I believe they can pay him any price now like the Spurs did with Splitter because it's been so long since they drafted him.
Maybe Okur will retire? Insurance would pay for much of his contract anyway?
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I think we need to re-sign CJ Miles, he's played really good for us in the starting line-up, and his option is a bargain value. Need to buyout or possibly send Raja Bell somewhere else.
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[QUOTE=El Kabong]Memo's been shut down for the year now. Hopefully they'll get a decent backup big in the off-season instead of Fes or Elson because I dunno how much longer Okur will last.[/QUOTE]
Sure, Fes looks ugly out there and terribly unskilled, but the plus/minus when he is out there is SICK. I am not a big plus minus guy typically, but damn, its hard to deny Fes' impact. He makes it harder to get in the paint, period.
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+/- isn't always a great indicator, just because he has a decent +/- doesn't mean he's a good player, a lot of it has to do with the fact in the first couple months where we were really good is that we would rely on our bench for a lot of energy/comebacks.
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You keep CJ assuming you don't get another young player that's better like Mayo.
Hopefully the rumors of Raja to Minnesota are true. Could get their young pg in Flynn there too.
The problem is that there are a lot better players than Fessenko that could keep people out of the the paint. The fact that the Jazz want to throw out an undersized frontline doesn't make him any good.
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]You keep CJ assuming you don't get another young player that's better like Mayo.
Hopefully the rumors of Raja to Minnesota are true. Could get their young pg in Flynn there too.
The problem is that there are a lot better players than Fessenko that could keep people out of the the paint. The fact that the Jazz want to throw out an undersized frontline doesn't make him any good.[/QUOTE]
Who the Jazz going to trade to Minnesota to get Flynn? Okur + Bell for Flynn + Pekovic or Webster? I'm not really a big fan of Flynn either, I realize it sucks being on the bench behind Luke Ridnour who shouldn't be starting, but his attitude isn't something I'm a fan of.
Jazz have to keep CJ if he can keep up good numbers in the starting role for the rest of the year. It sucks that Sloan/Corbin waited until mid-March to maybe realize that he was in the wrong role.
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[quote]Who the Jazz going to trade to Minnesota to get Flynn? Okur + Bell for Flynn + Pekovic or Webster? [/quote]
Who knows? They have plenty of guys the Jazz could use, picks and cap space. Jazz have picks and cap space too.
[quote]I'm not really a big fan of Flynn either, I realize it sucks being on the bench behind Luke Ridnour who shouldn't be starting, but his attitude isn't something I'm a fan of.[/quote]
He doesn't seem like a good fit but he's young and talented and despite him supposedly being a disappoinment as a rookie he put up pretty good numbers. Anybody in the draft or around the league they can get better?
[quote]Jazz have to keep CJ if he can keep up good numbers in the starting role for the rest of the year.[/quote]
They don't have to keep anyone as the Deron trade proved.
[quote] It sucks that Sloan/Corbin waited until mid-March to maybe realize that he was in the wrong role.[/quote]
Don't 2nd guess Jerry. I said him or Haywood should've been starting and with Bell sucking so bad and Haywood being too young CJ made the most sense.
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[quote]Kevin O'Connor on Andrei Kirilenko returning to the team next season: You'd like to think it. He's got an opportunity to test the free agent market, and there's nothing we can do about it. He's filled his contract. We've fulfilled our side of it. We would like him back, sure, absolutely; that's a conversation we'll have. He'll look at it. Because he's got other options, because he's a foreign player.