All you haters can STFU now. Greece qualified to the 2014 FIBA World Cup, as one of the two wild cards from Europe, along with Turkey.
According to inside info, per FIBA.
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All you haters can STFU now. Greece qualified to the 2014 FIBA World Cup, as one of the two wild cards from Europe, along with Turkey.
According to inside info, per FIBA.
Is this v-spans team? Would love to see Giannis play and out-perform him
When V-Span, one of the worst NBA players of all time, is your country's best athlete, it's over. Greece should be banned from international sports competitions.
Greece has a soccer team? :wtf:
Why is some basement dwelling dork living in Alabama repping Greece in the first place? :biggums:
Qualifying and giving charity entrance is two different things.
Who cares?? USA, Spain, and France would dominate this competition.
PS
Philippines also qualified in the 2014 FIBA World Cup for the first time since 1972. the 2nd best team in asia after Iran.
We need to shut up because Greece got a wild card? :oldlol: Watch them lose to Senegal.
[QUOTE=Black and White]Is this v-spans team? Would love to see Giannis play and out-perform him[/QUOTE]
Giannis has been told he will get an invite to train with the [B]practice squad[/B], and that [B]IF he does very well in training, then he has a CHANCE, to make the team, as Spanoulis' backup, for about 8-10 minutes of playing time a game.[/B]
Keep in mind that Giannis was the 4th to 5th best player on Greece's under-20 team this summer. So he better improve by a hell of a lot, if he wants to make the senior men's team.
I don't care about the euroleague at all, but i have to admit, pero antic is the truth. Completely outperformed my expectations of him when he came to atlanta
Is it possible for a 30 year old rookie to make it to the rising stars game?
[QUOTE=Euroleague]Giannis has been told he will get an invite to train with the practice squad, and that [B]IF he does very well in training, then he has a CHANCE, to make the team, as Spanoulis' backup, for about 8-10 minutes of playing time a game.[/B][/QUOTE]
So you have details about who is on the team and what they were told when it hasn't even been announced and you only know due to "secret information".
Inbreeding is bad. Very bad.
[QUOTE=Euroleague]Giannis has been told he will get an invite to train with the practice squad, and that [B]IF he does very well in training, then he has a CHANCE, to make the team, as Spanoulis' backup, for about 8-10 minutes of playing time a game.[/B][/QUOTE]
Why would they treat their best player like that??? Reducing him to 8-10 mins.
Unleash the Greek Freak!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Euroleague]All you haters can STFU now. Greece qualified to the 2014 FIBA World Cup, as one of the two wild cards from Europe, along with Turkey.
According to inside info, per FIBA.[/QUOTE]
Just curious friend, you have a link? I wonder if Brazil also got the green card
giannis will probably stay in Milwaukee to work out with Bucks during the offseason
btw its not official that we got the wild card, although its very possible
[QUOTE=Sakkreth]Qualifying and giving charity entrance is two different things.[/QUOTE]
You mean like when Lithuania got a wild card "charity entrance" from FIBA in 2010?
wrong forum shitface, reported
Is Nigeria going?
[QUOTE=PAOK]giannis will probably stay in Milwaukee to work out with Bucks during the offseason[/QUOTE]
Who really cares what he does with that though? It's just more NBA only fan fantasy nonsense delusion. He's probably not good enough to make the team, unless they just put him there for learning experience as an 11th-12th man. And he probably won't get playing time in serious games anyway.
It's doubtful he's going to play at all in anything other than minutes in non important games with Spanoulis and Zisis in front of him, and then with the federation's favorite Calathes (who I think is horrible) and then guys like Sloukas, Pappas, and Mantzaris at guard positions. It's unlikely he would make the team even, and if he did, it would be in the 11-12 man role.
Anyway, he actually said that he would for sure 100% play if he was selected. But it does not matter anyway, if he does play, he's probably only getting to play solid minutes in the early games of the tournament against the bad teams.
He's probably not going to be in the 10 man rotation once the actual serious games start, IF he even made the team.
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Who cares?? USA, Spain, and [B]France[/B] would dominate this competition.
PS
Philippines also qualified in the 2014 FIBA World Cup for the first time since 1972. the 2nd best team in asia after Iran.[/QUOTE]
Tony Parker isn't playing genius.
[QUOTE=Black and White]Why would they treat their best player like that??? Reducing him to 8-10 mins.
Unleash the Greek Freak!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
Spanoulis is their best player.
[QUOTE=Euroleague]Spanoulis is their best player.[/QUOTE]
Then they are doomed.......
[QUOTE=Euroleague]Spanoulis is their best player.[/QUOTE]
Yikes.
Shitty team who barely even qualified.
Same guy who averaged 2 points in the NBA right? :roll:
Good effort.
[QUOTE=PAOK]its not official that we got the wild card, although its very possible[/QUOTE]
I did not say it was official. Obviously, it won't be official until they announce it, which should be around the first week of February.
That's not to say this info could not be wrong, or could not change. But it seems that Turkey, Russia, and Greece were in the running. Israel, Finland, Italy were also, but ultimately, it was decided that they had been so bad in recent years that it was just extremely unfair to give it to one of them.
So it came down to Greece, Russia, and Turkey. Of course, they wanted Russia and Turkey, as economics (who can bring in the most money for FIBA decides it).
But then it was proven once again that Russian basketball system was caught in yet another scandal, this is what, like the 4th or 5th time now? And since this has happened that on tape they have been caught now so many times, and that even though they offered an 800,000 euros more money as a pay out to try to cover it, when the tape went public the scandal got bigger.
With so many scandals and tapes out there on Russian basketball, I mean 4 or 5 times this happens in the last few years, finally FIBA decided it was too risky to be associated with it for now.
So they want Greece instead.
That's what the inside source is saying.
Hopefully this is true, because it means Greece, despite all the tons of Russian and Turkish money being poured into FIBA to be the wild cards (not to mention Brazil and China also), got the wild card. And Greece is by far the most deserving, on a basketball basis, by 10 times over, of anyone.
[QUOTE=b1imtf]Is Nigeria going?[/QUOTE]
They were miles from even qualifying, or being considered for a wild card.
[QUOTE=Dr. Ice]I don't care about the euroleague at all, but i have to admit, pero antic is the truth. Completely outperformed my expectations of him when he came to atlanta
Is it possible for a 30 year old rookie to make it to the rising stars game?[/QUOTE]
Olympiacos (Antic's team) team stats the last 2 years. Just so you know, how good the Euroleague really is.
[B]2011-12[/B]
[url]http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteamstats?clubcode=OLY&seasoncode=E2011[/url]
[B]2012-13[/B]
[url]http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteamstats?clubcode=OLY&seasoncode=E2012[/url]
I have watched several Hawks games where the announcers make it sound like he was the star of Olympiacos, leading them to those Euroleague titles. But as you can see, he was a role player, with a similar role as he has with the Hawks.
That's how good the Euroleague is. You need to ignore what all the trolls here say about it.
[QUOTE=Euroleague]I have watched several Hawks games where the announcers make it sound like he was the star of Olympiacos, leading them to those Euroleague titles. But as you can see, he was a role player, with a similar role as he has with the Hawks.
That's how good the Euroleague is. You need to ignore what all the trolls here say about it.[/QUOTE]
People would probably respect Euroleague more if you didn't try shove it down our throats like this.
[QUOTE=Black and White]Then they are doomed.......[/QUOTE]:roll: :applause:
[QUOTE=Lebron23]Who cares?? USA, Spain, and France would dominate this competition.
PS
Philippines also qualified in the 2014 FIBA World Cup for the first time since 1972. the 2nd best team in asia after Iran.[/QUOTE]
You seem to be the go to source for PBA news. Is Alex Mallory sp? doing any good out there? He was in my grade, and we used to ball at our local 24 until he was drafted. just curious to see how hes holding up out there.
[QUOTE=r0drig0lac]Just curious friend, you have a link? I wonder if Brazil also got the green card[/QUOTE]
I just know about the European wild cards. I am guessing that China and Brazil got the other two without even being challenged. The debate was just for Europe.
I don't think China and Brazil were even debated. They just got them automatically.
So China, Brazil, Greece, Turkey.
[QUOTE=Euroleague]Who really cares what he does with that though? It's just more NBA only fan fantasy nonsense delusion. He's probably not good enough to make the team, unless they just put him there for learning experience as an 11th-12th man. And he probably won't get playing time in serious games anyway.
It's doubtful he's going to play at all in anything other than minutes in non important games with Spanoulis and Zisis in front of him, and then with the federation's favorite Calathes (who I think is horrible) and then guys like Sloukas, Pappas, and Mantzaris at guard positions. It's unlikely he would make the team even, and if he did, it would be in the 11-12 man role.
Anyway, he actually said that he would for sure 100% play if he was selected. But it does not matter anyway, if he does play, he's probably only getting to play solid minutes in the early games of the tournament against the bad teams.
He's probably not going to be in the 10 man rotation once the actual serious games start, IF he even made the team.[/QUOTE]
Man you need to bring in some young talent into your squad, i am from Croatia and i watched last Eurobasket as Greece lost in that game. Spanoulis is good, but not that good anymore, still has some periods where he shows his incredible talent, skill and feel for the game but he also has periods of the game where it's not going so well and without Diamantidis and Papaloukas it's difficult to overcome such periods while he is considered their best player.
I know you hate NBA and their players but why wouldn't you give a chance to such a talented player and probably a rising star. We are giving Saric as much opportunity we can, if Hezonja wasn't injured he'd be on that squad too and yet we still managed to finish 4th. Maybe he is not a starting material as you are trying to prove, Saric didn't start for Croatia aswell even tough he is considere top 15 pick or even higher on the next draft but you shouldn't be so disrespectful towards young players who are future of your national squad.
And i disagree on Calathes :)
[QUOTE=Euroleague]All you haters can STFU now. Greece qualified to the 2014 FIBA World Cup, as one of the two wild cards from Europe, along with Turkey.
According to inside info, per FIBA.[/QUOTE]
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V-Span is one of the worst NBA players of all time, leader of the Greek team.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
:biggums:
Euroleague has one of the best abilities on this board, he has the ablities to bring the the stans and fans off all players/teams together to agree on something, unfortunately its to agree that he is a delusional moron.
I'm new to ISH, so let me ask, does this guy seriously consider Euroleague to be better than NBA or he's just a massive troll?
[QUOTE=tragicbronson]Man you need to bring in some young talent into your squad, i am from Croatia and i watched last Eurobasket as Greece lost in that game. Spanoulis is good, but not that good anymore, still has some periods where he shows his incredible talent, skill and feel for the game but he also has periods of the game where it's not going so well and without Diamantidis and Papaloukas it's difficult to overcome such periods while he is considered their best player.
I know you hate NBA and their players but why wouldn't you give a chance to such a talented player and probably a rising star. We are giving Saric as much opportunity we can, if Hezonja wasn't injured he'd be on that squad too and yet we still managed to finish 4th. Maybe he is not a starting material as you are trying to prove, Saric didn't start for Croatia aswell even tough he is considere top 15 pick or even higher on the next draft but you shouldn't be so disrespectful towards young players who are future of your national squad.
And i disagree on Calathes :)[/QUOTE]
Spanoulis was playing the whole tournament with a severe ankle injury. He would have been put without any training, not just playing, but no physical activity for one month, and he played through it.
That was Spanoulis playing with a severe injury. Were you not even aware of that? I think Greece did fine considering they missed 4-5 of their best players and that their star was playing with a very bad injury. Also, if Greece did have all of their best players, those double teams that everyone did on Spanoulis, would not be as effective as they were.
His assists would go up, as he would have more options with other scorers on the team. There were times when the double teams came and he passed to lots of open players and the guys he was passing to were more defenders than scorers.
[B]
Guess what? Take away 4-5 of USA's best players and then give Durant or LeBron a severe injury and they don't win medals either.[/B]
As for Calathes, he is an even worse shooter than Rubio. When he is missing his shots, he completely destroys the offensive rhythm of a team. He ruins games so many times. He has been a disaster for the national team every summer.
And if you look at his play this year with the Grizzlies, he still can't freaking shoot. The guy is the worst guard shooting-wise in the history of professional basketball.
Croatia is not as deep at forward as Greece is at guard. Plus, Croatia had injuries at forward that allowed for Saric to get more playing time. So not really the same issue.
[QUOTE=Boarder Patrol]V-Span is one of the worst NBA players of all time, leader of the Greek team.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
:biggums:[/QUOTE]
Yet, he was double teamed by every team at EuroBasket.....[B]and Tony Parker was not[/B]...
Even Team USA double teamed him at the Olympics....
strange......
[QUOTE=Euroleague]Spanoulis was playing the whole tournament with a severe ankle injury. He would have put without any training, not just playing, but no physical activity for one whole month, and he played through it.
That was Spanoulis playing with a very severe injury. Were you not even aware of that? I think Greece did fine considering they missed 4-5 of their best players and that their star was playing with a very bad injury.
As for Calathes, he is an even worse shooter than Rubio. When he is missing his shots, he completely destroys the rhythm of a team. He ruins games so many times. He has been a disaster for the national team every summer.
And if you look at his play this year with the Grizzlies, he still can't freaking shoot. The guy is the worst shooting guard in the history of professional basketball.[/QUOTE]
No i wasn't aware of that, my bad.
I thought Calathes was a point guard :confusedshrug: He seemed like a player who can run a team, has a great height for a pg, has a really nice feel and passing skill but as you said lacks shooting touch but aside from that he seemed to me like a really solid pg
But you still didn't answer why are you so much against giving Giannis as a young star minutes in the national squad.
[QUOTE=tragicbronson]No i wasn't aware of that, my bad.
I thought Calathes was a point guard :confusedshrug: He seemed like a player who can run a team, has a great height for a pg, has a really nice feel and passing skill but as you said lacks shooting touch but aside from that he seemed to me like a really solid pg
But you still didn't answer why are you so much against giving Giannis as a young star minutes in the national squad.[/QUOTE]
because Giannis is young, talented and just so happens to be in the NBA. If he stayed in Greece and happened to flourish, he would have a polar opposite opinion.
Also its amazing whenever Spanoulis sucks he has an undocumented severe ankle injury or other injury that should require a month off lol. Such a coincidence, get out of here u hick.
[QUOTE=Euroleague]Spanoulis was playing the whole tournament with a severe ankle injury.
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I guess he played his entire NBA career with an ankle injury as well
Do they not have links in Arkansas? You might as well be the even whiter version of Chris Broussard. Multiple sauces say.
[QUOTE=tragicbronson]No i wasn't aware of that, my bad.
I thought Calathes was a point guard :confusedshrug: He seemed like a player who can run a team, has a great height for a pg, has a really nice feel and passing skill but as you said lacks shooting touch but aside from that he seemed to me like a really solid pg
But you still didn't answer why are you so much against giving Giannis as a young star minutes in the national squad.[/QUOTE]
Calathes is a point guard. I mean shooting guard, as in shooting the ball.
I am not against him being on the team. I never said that. I don't care who is on the team. The best players should be there. Which is why I really don't care much for Calathes being there.
I never said one thing about not wanting Giannis on the team. I just said he probably was not good enough to make the team. All of Greece's players are saying they want to play now, because the federation put in a new rule that starts this summer (since so many players 6-7 even of the best players every summer won't play for years on end) that if you refuse to play you are kicked off the team permanently.
So obviously, it would be very hard for him to make the team. My point was I did not care if he trained in Milwaukee over the summer as PAOK suggested, because if he did make the team, in that full team, he's going to be an 11-12 man probably and sit on the bench most of the time.
I never said anything about being against him being on the team. Regardless, just once, Greece needs to bring their best players, and not bring him, Calathes, or anyone else just because the federation likes that they play in the NBA and the media likes them.
Greece every summer fails to bring their best team and they need to stop doing that.