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Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
before the season began, everyone was underrating Kobe, talking like he was an old man just playing the role of a role player. like Dwight is the greatest superstar. people saying that if Lakers win, Dwight will get FMVP.
well, if you're watching the games this year, it's totally the opposite. Kobe RUNS the Lakers, he is their best and most important player. Dwight is great, don't take me wrong, but when Kobe sits and it's only Dwight, Lakers suck. it's like watching the Orlando Magics without shooters.
when kobe comes in, the team works again. shooters are shooting, dwight and paul are scoring. if he plays like this- he's going to get MVP, FMVP, and be the best player of his 6th championship ring.
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Re: Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
[QUOTE=Boomerang]before the season began, everyone was underrating Kobe, talking like he was an old man just playing the role of a role player. like Dwight is the greatest superstar. people saying that if Lakers win, Dwight will get FMVP.
well, if you're watching the games this year, it's totally the opposite. Kobe RUNS the Lakers, he is their best and most important player. Dwight is great, don't take me wrong, but when Kobe sits and it's only Dwight, Lakers suck. it's like watching the Orlando Magics without shooters.
when kobe comes in, the team works again. shooters are shooting, dwight and [B]paul[/B] are scoring. if he plays like this- he's going to get MVP, FMVP, and be the best player of his 6th championship ring.[/QUOTE]
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Re: Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
He's doing great, but I fear he's going to hit a wall... and even harder than last season.
He'll fall drastically. Then again, that may be wrong to underestimate him in that regard too.
However, even if he does win the 6th ring as the best player, it's really not that impressive since the team is so stacked at multiple spots on the floor. More spots than what LeBron enjoyed with a hobbled Wade.
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[QUOTE=HardwoodLegend]He's doing great, but I fear he's going to hit a wall... and even harder than last season.
He'll fall drastically. Then again, that may be wrong to underestimate him in that regard too.
However, even if he does win the 6th ring as the best player, it's really not that impressive since the team is so stacked at multiple spots on the floor. More spots than what LeBron enjoyed with a hobbled Wade.[/QUOTE]
I guess you didn't watch the 2012 playoff heat.
The Heat bench literally played like their life depended on it.
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Re: Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
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[QUOTE=HardwoodLegend]He's doing great, but I fear he's going to hit a wall... and even harder than last season.
He'll fall drastically. Then again, that may be wrong to underestimate him in that regard too.
However, even if he does win the 6th ring as the best player, it's really not that impressive since the team is so stacked at multiple spots on the floor. More spots than what LeBron enjoyed with a hobbled Wade.[/QUOTE]
:lol not really.
Lebron has 2 players in their primes. Kobe has an old Nash, only Dwight is in his prime. Not to mention no bench besides Jordan Hill. Lebron has a ton of shooters.
Love it, same thing for Lebron, he gets praised, but for Kobe, it's nothing :oldlol:
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back from hiding :roll: :roll: :roll:
ready to go for round 2? Must be tough stopping yourself from posting :roll: :roll: :roll:
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[QUOTE=Dictator]I guess you didn't watch the 2012 playoff heat.
The Heat bench literally played like their life depended on it.[/QUOTE]
That's because playing with LeBron made them better. He elevated their play.
You're acting like it's the same thing as walking into the Playoffs with the kind of help Kobe has?
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[QUOTE=HardwoodLegend]That's because playing with LeBron made them better. He elevated their play.
You're acting like it's the same thing as walking into the Playoffs with the kind of help Kobe has?
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2 things.
1. Kobe has made his teammates better so far too.
2. Lebron plays in the damn East with Wade and Bosh. He doesn't even need to play and they'll make the playoffs :oldlol: Hell, he basically only has 1 tough series and then he gets the finals
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[QUOTE=HardwoodLegend]
However, even if he does win the 6th ring as the best player, it's really not that impressive since the team is so stacked at multiple spots on the floor. More spots than what LeBron enjoyed with a hobbled Wade.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
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[QUOTE=HardwoodLegend]He's doing great, but I fear he's going to hit a wall... and even harder than last season.
He'll fall drastically. Then again, that may be wrong to underestimate him in that regard too.
However, even if he does win the 6th ring as the best player, it's really not that impressive [B]since the team is so stacked at multiple spots on the floor[/B]. More spots than what LeBron enjoyed with a hobbled Wade.[/QUOTE]
Weakest bench on the NBA. Old ass Nash. Gasol softer than ever and on the decline. I'll give you Dwight. MWP?
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
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Re: Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
I'm kidding, you guys.
Kobe's success makes me mad, and I'm trying to work my way towards accepting it. It'll take a bit of therapy.
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Dantonio not taking out dwight?
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Re: Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
Clearly. No debate. Playing as good as anyway in the league
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no doubt and it's best that way cuz Dwight doesn't have that assassin alpha frame of mind, u see how happy he is to get carried by Kobe? that's not 1st option on championship team mentality
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Yes, right now, Kobe is playing better than Dwight.
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Re: Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
Dwight is a bit more impactful (you will know this sooner or later)
Kobe is the better closer ofcourse and a better leader
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Re: Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
Tonight Dwight had a bigger impact on the game, poor FT shooting aside.
But yes, 11 games into the season the Lakers best player has been Kobe. Kobe's arguably been the best player in the NBA so far.
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[QUOTE=pauk]Dwight is a bit more impactful (on both ends)
Kobe is the better closer ofcourse and a better leader[/QUOTE]
This.
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[QUOTE=pauk]Dwight is the best player
Kobe is the best closer and a better leader[/QUOTE]
STFO
Kobe is the best player, the leader, the closer..
Dwight is the sidekick just like your boy..
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Re: Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
[QUOTE=pauk]Dwight is a bit more impactful (you will know this sooner or later)
Kobe is the better closer ofcourse and a better leader[/QUOTE]
Normally I would agree, but Kobe's been playing really efficient basketball. Dwight was clearly the better player tonight, but I'd still give the overall edge to Kobe at this point.
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[QUOTE=heyhey]no doubt and it's best that way cuz Dwight doesn't have that assassin alpha frame of mind, u see how happy he is to get carried by Kobe? that's not 1st option on championship team mentality[/QUOTE]
How in the f*** did you get so much positive rep?
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Kobe is the best offensive player by a mile. Dwight is not a huge offensive thread the way Kobe is. You can't even run the offense off Dwight. The offense would be run through Nash & Kobe.
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[QUOTE=KG215]How in the f*** did you get so much positive rep?[/QUOTE]
Ignore the retard zizozain and winwin.
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Re: Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
Kobe will be the best player on the Lakers till he retires. Don't know why people thought differently coming into this season.
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[QUOTE=KG215]Tonight Dwight had a bigger impact on the game, poor FT shooting aside.
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I disagree. His FT shooting nearly cost them the game :confusedshrug: It's not just a little footnote. He should at least be shooting 60% on FT's. It might end up costing them a playoff series if he has shoots like he did tonight.
Not hating on Dwight, but Kobe was more efficient tonight and did a good job setting up the offense. Hell, I'd say Pau had a better game than Dwight too.
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[QUOTE=KG215]Tonight Dwight had a bigger impact on the game, poor FT shooting aside.
But yes, 11 games into the season the Lakers best player has been Kobe. Kobe's arguably been the best player in the NBA so far.[/QUOTE]
What game were you watching tonight?
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[QUOTE=G-Funk]Kobe is the best offensive player by a mile. Dwight is not a huge offensive thread the way Kobe is. You can't even run the offense off Dwight. The offense would be run through Nash & Kobe.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this.
Mike Brown tried it and it was bad. They dumped the ball to Dwight for him to go 1 on 1 down low, but it's usually pretty ugly. Dwight is good for being the defensive anchor, and offense for cleaning things up. That is if you set him up for an lob, open pass, or when he rebounds and putback.
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[QUOTE=Heavincent]I disagree. His FT shooting nearly cost them the game :confusedshrug: It's not just a little footnote. He should at least be shooting 60% on FT's. It might end up costing them a playoff series if he has shoots like he did tonight.
Not hating on Dwight, but Kobe was more efficient tonight and did a good job setting up the offense. Hell, I'd say Pau had a better game than Dwight too.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]What game were watching tonight?[/QUOTE]
And here we go. Kobe kids coming to the rescue.
Yes, Howard's FT shooting nearly cost them the game. Still doesn't mean he wasn't the more impactful player tonight, especially on defense. He had four blocks and altered a number of other shots at the rim.
Not saying Dwight was better by a mile or anything, but in my opinion he was their best player tonight. Kobe and Pau also had really solid games.
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Re: Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
Beans Bryant is currently the best player on the Lakers.
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Re: Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
Dwight is our anchor defensively, but Kobe is our best offensive weapon; this is clear as day. So far this season, Kobe has played like our best player regardless if Dwight is at 100% or not because Kobe is a far better & more consistent offensive threat.
Heck, Kobe has played like the best player on the planet so far this season.
Leading the league in scoring, shooting 50%+, 40%+ and 90%+...averaging 5 assists and 5 boards...he's been as good as anyone at the very least, in my opinion.
Dwight and Kobe are two of the five best players on the planet, only team in this league to have that PLUS Nash & Gasol? Insane.
Heck, MWP has looked pretty damn good this season as well.
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Re: Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
[QUOTE=M.Bustly15A5RU8]No.[/QUOTE]
Was Kobe ever the best player on the Lakers in his career?
97-04: Shaq
05-07: Kwame Brown
08-11: Pau, the real Finals MVP and league MVP
12: Bynum, Dwight
Am I right?
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Re: Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
[QUOTE=KG215]And here we go. Kobe kids coming to the rescue.
Yes, Howard's FT shooting nearly cost them the game. Still doesn't mean he wasn't the more impactful player tonight, especially on defense. He had four blocks and altered a number of other shots at the rim.
Not saying Dwight was better by a mile or anything, but in my opinion he was their best player tonight. Kobe and Pau also had really solid games.[/QUOTE]
So I'm a "Kobe kid" just because I think Kobe had a better game tonight? Get real man.
Kobe also played great D on D-Will down the stretch and was the most impactful player by far on the offensive end. I'm sorry, but I just can't overlook Dwight's FT shooting.
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[QUOTE=Heavincent]So I'm a "Kobe kid" just because I think Kobe had a better game tonight? Get real man.
Kobe also played great D on D-Will down the stretch and was the most impactful player by far on the offensive end. I'm sorry, but I just can't overlook Dwight's FT shooting.[/QUOTE]
No, you're a "Kobe kid" because you are obsessed with Kobe and always come to his rescue anytime someone tries to say he's not the best at something.
Tonight, though, that's fine. The gap between he and Howard wasn't that big, so I can see the case for Kobe.
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Re: Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
[QUOTE=KG215]And here we go. Kobe kids coming to the rescue.
Yes, Howard's FT shooting nearly cost them the game. S[B]till doesn't mean he wasn't the more impactful player tonight[/B], especially on defense. He had four blocks and altered a number of other shots at the rim.
Not saying Dwight was better by a mile or anything, but in my opinion he was their best player tonight. Kobe and Pau also had really solid games.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
Dwight's +/- was -4
Bryant's +/- was +20
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Re: Kobe is the best player on the Lakers, not Dwight.
[QUOTE=Heavincent]So I'm a "Kobe kid" just because I think Kobe had a better game tonight? Get real man.
Kobe also played great D on D-Will down the stretch and was the most impactful player by far on the offensive end. I'm sorry, but I just can't overlook Dwight's FT shooting.[/QUOTE]
Let's be real you ride kobe jock even for a "nets" fan don't blame you the nets ****ing suck.
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[QUOTE=Pacers4ever]Let's be real you ride kobe jock even for a "nets" fan don't blame you the nets ****ing suck.[/QUOTE]
Aww come on now, they have some good talent on that team.
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[QUOTE=Pacers4ever]the nets ****ing suck.[/QUOTE]
6-3 :confusedshrug: