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If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
Latinos: ideology
54% conservative
39% liberal
I saw this on MSNBC today.
If Republicans soften the immigration message, I think Democrats are done.
Thoughts?
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Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
No. The entire party needs a serious "make over" before they will be able to contend for the throne in future elections.
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You have to love how they're willing to suddenly switch their stance solely to win an election, not because they feel it's the right stance. F*cking politics.
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[QUOTE=Is He Ill]You have to love how they're willing to suddenly switch their stance solely to win an election, not because they feel it's the right stance. F*cking politics.[/QUOTE]
Politics are so fu*ked on both sides. I hate both the crips and bloods, and both sides are fighting for the Latino Kings support.
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[QUOTE=longhornfan1234]Latinos: ideology
54% conservative
39% liberal
I saw this on MSNBC today.
If Republicans soften the immigration message, I think Democrats are done.
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
Well, if the GOP has a makeover and the stops being the nationalist, racist, homophobic, anti-science, xenophobic, anti-women party, it will be a good thing. The problem with the GOP is that they are catering to the extreme right, the religious nuts, softening their ant-immigration stance won't be enough. They need to support policies that benefit the working class, not just the rich. Latinos have a big blue collar base, they vote for their economic interests, not just because of immigration...
The GOP WILL change, they have to or they risk being out of the White House for a loooong time. They'll still prolly get their asses handed to them in 2016 by the Clintons because I don't think they've all have gotten the messege...eventually they will, though.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you're the life of every party you go to. Your range in conversation topics rivals even the great L. Kizzle.
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[QUOTE=TheMan]Well, if the GOP has a makeover and the stops being the nationalist, racist, homophobic, anti-science, xenophobic, anti-women party, it will be a good thing. The problem with the GOP is that they are catering to the extreme right, the religious nuts, softening their ant-immigration stance won't be enough. They need to support policies that benefit the working class, not just the rich. Latinos have a big blue collar base, they vote for their economic interests, not just because of immigration...
The GOP WILL change, they have to or they risk being out of the White House for a loooong time. They'll still prolly get their asses handed to them in 2016 by the Clintons because I don't think they've all have gotten the messege...eventually they will, though.[/QUOTE]
Your first paragraph is bunch of bs, but I agree with your second paragraph.
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[QUOTE=B-Low]I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you're the life of every party you go to. Your range in conversation topics rivals even the great L. Kizzle.[/QUOTE]
You know me so well. :bowdown: :bowdown:
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Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
[QUOTE=longhornfan1234]Latinos: ideology
54% conservative
39% liberal
I saw this on MSNBC today.
If Republicans soften the immigration message, I think Democrats are done.
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
you guys just got your asses handed to you. do you really think you are gonna turn it around so easily, much less proclaim the Dems "done"?
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Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
[QUOTE=longhornfan1234]Your first paragraph is bunch of bs[/QUOTE]
And there lies the GOP's problem. You don't believe the first paragraph.
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[QUOTE=rezznor]you guys just got your asses handed to you. do you really think you are gonna turn it around so easily, much less proclaim the Dems "done"?[/QUOTE]
If we soften immigration message, yes. And close the women gap. We need to soften our message about abortion.
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[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]And there lies the GOP's problem. You don't believe the first paragraph.[/QUOTE]
The Democrats are communistic, socialistic, racist, anti-white, anti-male and anti-rich. You can argue the same exact thing for Democrats.
In regards to immigration, I only believe that they should soften the line on legal immigration, maybe let more people in legally, maybe. But not with illegal immigrants. I think they should absolutely be deported.
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[QUOTE=Math2]The Democrats are communistic, socialistic, racist, anti-white, anti-male and anti-rich. You can argue the same exact thing for Democrats.
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No you can't. Name a prominent politician having any of those views.
I don't need to remind you about Santorum's "Government NIG*" or all those Rape comments.
Both sides are NOT the same.
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The bigger and much harder part is they are going to have to not just change a policy stance, but actually show Hispanics some respect and they are very bad at doing that across the party. For every Republican who could authentically represent a more sensible immigration policy, you have politicians like Jan Brewer in Arizona who [I]get elected because of the hostility to Hispanics [/I]Nationalism is element in the Republican coalition and the Republicans will probably have to deal with a Pat Buchanan type threat on [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO5_1ps5CAc"]the right on immigration for a little bit.[/URL]
Mike Huckabee talked about how he was able to do so well with blacks when he was Governor and he said, you can't just show up during the campaign, you have put in the work and have a dialogue all the time if you want their votes. He won't 48% of the black vote one election. When's the last time that happened for a Republican?
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[QUOTE=Math2]The Democrats are communistic, socialistic, racist, anti-white, anti-male and anti-rich. You can argue the same exact thing for Democrats.
In regards to immigration, I only believe that they should soften the line on legal immigration, maybe let more people in legally, maybe. But not with illegal immigrants. I think they should absolutely be deported.[/QUOTE]
I don't believe the first paragraph.
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Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
[QUOTE=longhornfan1234]Latinos: ideology
54% conservative
39% liberal
I saw this on MSNBC today.
If Republicans soften the immigration message, I think Democrats are done.
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
Nope. It's going to get ugly, fast. I saw this on another site, and sums it up quite nicely:
[B]The modern GOP was a hideous chimera, a coalition forged 30 years ago as an unholy alliance between three separate factions:[/B]
[B]1. The Religious Right.[/B] Those Christian fundamentalists who want an Evangelical Christian theocracy in the USA. They want Islam banned, and Christianity as the state religion of the USA. Banning abortion is priority #1 for these people as an ideological litmus test and a first step in their plan. Remember the book the Handmaid's Tale? Yeah, that's what these folks really want.
[B]2. The Pseudo-Libertarians/Pseudo-Objectivists:[/B] Two somewhat overlapping factions I'm listing as one because they're so similar. They want the Federal government virtually dismantled. They want everything privatized, and Federal taxes virtually eliminated. Some do it out of pure ideological worship of Ayn Rand, others do it out of this idea that "Big Government" is somehow inherently evil. They want lower taxes, fewer/no regulations, and much smaller government, either so their own companies can make big profits or so they can live their lives without having anybody tell them what to do.
[B]3. Warhawks. More like chickenhawks.[/B] They are built on the idea that aggressive foreign policy, zealous patriotism and blind loyalty to the stars and stripes is the way to go. Wave the flag and play some Lee Greenwood music and they'll do whatever you say as long as it involves blowing up brown people. Most of them have never served, even if many of them had the chance. They'll go along with anything if they think it involves blowing up Muslims, distrusting Mexicans and talking about how great America is. They are deathly afraid of "communism" and "socialism" since they grew up in the Cold War and were indoctrinated to think of those ideas as the enemy, to be destroyed at all costs.
The GOP is these three factions fused together, and they've been welded together since the early 80's.
[B]The strain started showing a few years ago, but this election seems to have finally reached a critical point.[/B]
Yeah, the Republican Civil War has begun. The Religious Right is accusing everyone else of not being ideologically pure enough and saying that if they'd stuck to their dogma they would have won. The Pseudo-Libertarians are furious at the very idea of anybody raising taxes to compromise. The Warhawks are in a froth that the Muslim Usurper got re-elected and thinking it's all but a Red Dawn scenario where they assume that the US is about to become a communist state.
Each faction is blaming the other two for failure. None have enough people to win. The election showed that even together they don't have enough anymore. They'll fight amongst each other. Groups will get marginalized, groups will get discredited. I'm seeing a possible splintering of the party into two parties, or a substantial third party emerging and becoming marginalized. It will NOT be quick, or pretty.
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Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
Latinos are no different than many blacks and whites. We're conservative on some issues and liberal on others. It's just that the GOP proposes shit that's crazy and at times racist. They rarely want a middle of the road approach and instead let their far right base influence their proposals.
Latinos don't simply vote Democratic due to their immigration stance, they vote Deemocratic because they're the most sane of the two.
They also appear to be a TRUE party of inclusion and not a bunch of fake peddling politicians.
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[QUOTE=Droid101]Nope. It's going to get ugly, fast. I saw this on another site, and sums it up quite nicely:
[B]The modern GOP was a hideous chimera, a coalition forged 30 years ago as an unholy alliance between three separate factions:[/B]
[B]1. The Religious Right.[/B] Those Christian fundamentalists who want an Evangelical Christian theocracy in the USA. They want Islam banned, and Christianity as the state religion of the USA. Banning abortion is priority #1 for these people as an ideological litmus test and a first step in their plan. Remember the book the Handmaid's Tale? Yeah, that's what these folks really want.
[B]2. The Pseudo-Libertarians/Pseudo-Objectivists:[/B] Two somewhat overlapping factions I'm listing as one because they're so similar. They want the Federal government virtually dismantled. They want everything privatized, and Federal taxes virtually eliminated. Some do it out of pure ideological worship of Ayn Rand, others do it out of this idea that "Big Government" is somehow inherently evil. They want lower taxes, fewer/no regulations, and much smaller government, either so their own companies can make big profits or so they can live their lives without having anybody tell them what to do.
[B]3. Warhawks. More like chickenhawks.[/B] They are built on the idea that aggressive foreign policy, zealous patriotism and blind loyalty to the stars and stripes is the way to go. Wave the flag and play some Lee Greenwood music and they'll do whatever you say as long as it involves blowing up brown people. Most of them have never served, even if many of them had the chance. They'll go along with anything if they think it involves blowing up Muslims, distrusting Mexicans and talking about how great America is. They are deathly afraid of "communism" and "socialism" since they grew up in the Cold War and were indoctrinated to think of those ideas as the enemy, to be destroyed at all costs.
The GOP is these three factions fused together, and they've been welded together since the early 80's.
[B]The strain started showing a few years ago, but this election seems to have finally reached a critical point.[/B]
Yeah, the Republican Civil War has begun. The Religious Right is accusing everyone else of not being ideologically pure enough and saying that if they'd stuck to their dogma they would have won. The Pseudo-Libertarians are furious at the very idea of anybody raising taxes to compromise. The Warhawks are in a froth that the Muslim Usurper got re-elected and thinking it's all but a Red Dawn scenario where they assume that the US is about to become a communist state.
Each faction is blaming the other two for failure. None have enough people to win. The election showed that even together they don't have enough anymore. They'll fight amongst each other. Groups will get marginalized, groups will get discredited. I'm seeing a possible splintering of the party into two parties, or a substantial third party emerging and becoming marginalized. It will NOT be quick, or pretty.[/QUOTE]
Speaking of communists.
An old couple came in to my store and the old man had an anti china hat on. He was asking if the items were made in china and refused to purchase anything that was.
Doesn't he know that it's on our best interest to support our Chinese overlords?
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[QUOTE=Droid101]No you can't. Name a prominent politician having any of those views.
I don't need to remind you about Santorum's "Government NIG*" or all those Rape comments.
Both sides are NOT the same.[/QUOTE]
Obama is anti-Rich. Obama is anti-White, to a sense. Obama is anti-Male, to a sense. Obama is a leaning Socialist.
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[QUOTE=KevinNYC]I don't believe the first paragraph.[/QUOTE]
And there lies the Democrats problem.
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[QUOTE=Math2]Obama is anti-Rich. Obama is anti-White, to a sense. Obama is anti-Male, to a sense. Obama is a leaning Socialist.[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll:
I see you rolled up all of Rush's talking points into one neat little paragraph. Nice.
To address your points...
[QUOTE=Math2]Obama is anti-Rich.[/quote]How so? He wants to return the higher bracket tax rates to Clinton levels? How is that anti-rich?
[QUOTE=Math2]Obama is anti-White, to a sense.[/quote]:oldlol: What does that even mean?
[QUOTE=Math2]Obama is anti-Male, to a sense.[/quote]:roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=Math2] Obama is a leaning Socialist.[/QUOTE]Nope, he's center-right, just like Romney.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/NcyhV.png[/IMG]
Any other talking points on the menu today?
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Wanna know the scariest part about Latinos?
At times you can't tell them apart from whites.
I'm sure we even have some here that will attest to that. White people feeling comfortable around them, even making racist comments without them knowing they're making it to a beaner.
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[QUOTE=Droid101]:roll: :roll:
I see you rolled up all of Rush's talking points into one neat little paragraph. Nice.
To address your points...
How so? He wants to return the higher bracket tax rates to Clinton levels? How is that anti-rich?
:oldlol: What does that even mean?
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Nope, he's center-right, just like Romney.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/NcyhV.png[/IMG]
Any other talking points on the menu today?[/QUOTE]
I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh. It's anti Rich because he wants to raise taxes on them unfairly, just because they've been more successful.
I don't know, what does anti-White mean? What does anti-Black mean?
You refuse to address my points with your emoticons.
I'm sure that that chart shows exactly where he is. Bullshit. Someone filled in a program answers that they made. There is no real data in that. Redistribution of the wealth is a leftist policy.
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[QUOTE=andgar923]Wanna know the scariest part about Latinos?
At times you can't tell them apart from whites.
I'm sure we even have some here that will attest to that. White people feeling comfortable around them, even making racist comments without them knowing they're making it to a beaner.[/QUOTE]
Why does it matter what race they are? Why does it matter if they are indistinguishable. Well they are at least to the liberal media who framed George Zimmerman as a white racist....
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[QUOTE=Math2]I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh. It's anti Rich because he wants to raise taxes on them unfairly, just because they've been more successful.[/quote]No, he wants to raise taxes on higher brackets because those people can handle the increase without any issues whatsoever.
[QUOTE=Math2]I don't know, what does anti-White mean? What does anti-Black mean?[/quote]Show me something he did or said that was anti-white. Protip: nothing exists.
[QUOTE=Math2]You refuse to address my points with your emoticons.[/quote]How is he "anti-man"? That statement doesn't make any sense, especially considering he IS A MAN. Please, enlighten us on what anti-man means.
[QUOTE=Math2]I'm sure that that chart shows exactly where he is. Bullshit. Someone filled in a program answers that they made. There is no real data in that. Redistribution of the wealth is a leftist policy.[/QUOTE]It does. His policies are center-right. He's a fiscal conservative who has grown government spending the LEAST out of any of like... the last five presidents. He isn't calling for redistribution of wealth. He's calling for increased government income to cover expenses and debts. You know what actually is a socialist program? The military. 100% socialism.
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[QUOTE=Math2]And there lies the Democrats problem.[/QUOTE]
lol, what problem? Democrats have beaten the GOP in the national vote count 5 of the last 6 general elections:lol
And to the OP, believing that all the GOP has to do to win the WH is getting the Hispanic vote is way too simplistic. You have a problem with black voters, gay voters, young voters, educated voters, single women voters etc.
Those old white southerners (Dixiecrats) that helped you win elections before are dying out, you guys need to expand your base by being more than the party of old white dudes.
The country is changing and you guys ain't...
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[QUOTE=Droid101]No, he wants to raise taxes on higher brackets because those people can handle the increase without any issues whatsoever.
Show me something he did or said that was anti-white. Protip: nothing exists.
How is he "anti-man"? That statement doesn't make any sense, especially considering he IS A MAN. Please, enlighten us on what anti-man means.
It does. His policies are center-right. He's a fiscal conservative who has grown government spending the LEAST out of any of like... the last five presidents. He isn't calling for redistribution of wealth. He's calling for increased government income to cover expenses and debts. You know what actually is a socialist program? The military. 100% socialism.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't matter whether or not they can handle it or not. What matters is the fact that he discourages prosperity. You should get what you earn, and not have it taken away.
Anti-white in the sense that he favors minorities. Anti-man in the sense that he favors women.
Redistribution of the wealth is what he is calling for. What is taking from one group but not another? He has spent less because of the winding down of the wars. And Obamacare is not going to decrease spending...
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[QUOTE=Math2]It doesn't matter whether or not they can handle it or not. What matters is the fact that he discourages prosperity. You should get what you earn, and not have it taken away.[/quote] If you earn over $250,000, your taxes increase a tiny bit. That's it. You realize that taxes are what fund the government, right? And taxes are right now, at their lowest historical rate in American history (more or less). They NEED to be raised.
It doesn't discourage prosperity. Anyone who says "Well, I think I'll quit my $255,000 job because I'm going to pay another $100 in taxes this year" is a liar and a fool. If anything, it encourages you to make even more, to make up for that sad, lonely lost $100.
[QUOTE=Math2]Anti-white in the sense that he favors minorities.[/quote]Where? When?
[QUOTE=Math2] Anti-man in the sense that he favors women. [/quote] I think I see where World Nut Daily is sending you on this one. Because he is pushing for contraception and abortion coverage for insurance? That makes him anti-Man? Explain that.
[QUOTE=Math2]Redistribution of the wealth is what he is calling for. What is taking from one group but not another? He has spent less because of the winding down of the wars. And Obamacare is not going to decrease spending...[/QUOTE]He's not "taking from one group but not another." He wants taxes raised on the highest bracket. Everyone pays the same rate on anything they earn up to $250,000 dollars. Everyone. Everyone is equal. Income beyond that will have the rate increased slightly (but still lower than the rates under SAINT REAGAN).
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[QUOTE=Math2]And there lies the Democrats problem.[/QUOTE]
It's mainly because I know what those words means.
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Another point...I have never understood the Obama is a socialist garbage, he isn't even a liberal, (liberals are against drone attacks, keeping Gitmo open etc) much less a socialist. You guys have no idea what a Socialist is, please, educate yourselves. Obama is center right since that's how he has governed. He looks like a socialist to you guys only because you are on the faaaar right.
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[QUOTE=TheMan]Another point...I have never understood the Obama is a socialist garbage, he isn't even a liberal, (liberals are against drone attacks, keeping Gitmo open etc) much less a socialist. You guys have no idea what a Socialist is, please, educate yourselves. Obama is center right since that's how he has governed. He looks like a socialist to you guys only because you are on the faaaar right.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/12/1143767/--Study-it-Out-Woman-Calls-Barack-Obama-a-Communist-Looks-like-a-Fool-on-National-TV"]Prior to the vice presidential debate, a woman in totally awesome sunglasses interrupted a Chris Matthews interview with an Obama supporter by yelling, [B]"Communist!"[/B]
Matthews finished his first interview and approached the woman. As you might suspect, hilarity ensued:[/URL]
Matthews: What did you mean by that?
Romney Supporter: All you have to do is [B]study it out.[/B] Just study it out and you'll see. You haven't done your homework, buddy.
Matthews: What do I need to study?
Romney Supporter: [B]He's a communist.[/B] And those of us who are not voting for him know it.
Matthews: And what do you mean by communist?
Romney Supporter: You don't know?
Matthews: Just tell me. Help me out here. I want to know what you mean.
Romney Supporter: Oh I know what I mean.
Matthews: Well help us out. You're on national television.
Romney Supporter: I know I'm on national television.
Matthews: Well tell me what you mean when you just accused the guy of being a communist.
Romney Supporter: You just study it out.
Matthews: Is he an American?
Romney Supporter: No.
Matthews: What is he? What country's he from?
Romney Supporter: Just because he was born here doesn't mean he thinks like us. [B]He's a communist, buddy.[/B]
Matthews: Ok, thank you.
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[SIZE="5"]GAME OVER LIBTARDOS[/SIZE] Study it out.
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[QUOTE=Math2]Obama is anti-Rich. Obama is anti-White, to a sense. Obama is anti-Male, to a sense. Obama is a leaning Socialist.[/QUOTE]
so thinking women should get equal pay is anti male?
anti white how again?
wanting to go back to the tax rates we had under Clinton is anti rich?
come on now.
[QUOTE=TheMan]Another point...I have never understood the Obama is a socialist garbage, he isn't even a liberal, (liberals are against drone attacks, keeping Gitmo open etc) much less a socialist. You guys have no idea what a Socialist is, please, educate yourselves. Obama is center right since that's how he has governed. He looks like a socialist to you guys only because you are on the faaaar right.[/QUOTE]
THIS
every time I hear him get called a socialist or commie I have to wonder if these people ever even studied what the **** that means in school.
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[QUOTE=Droid101][URL="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/12/1143767/--Study-it-Out-Woman-Calls-Barack-Obama-a-Communist-Looks-like-a-Fool-on-National-TV"]Prior to the vice presidential debate, a woman in totally awesome sunglasses interrupted a Chris Matthews interview with an Obama supporter by yelling, [B]"Communist!"[/B]
Matthews finished his first interview and approached the woman. As you might suspect, hilarity ensued:[/URL]
Matthews: What did you mean by that?
Romney Supporter: All you have to do is [B]study it out.[/B] Just study it out and you'll see. You haven't done your homework, buddy.
Matthews: What do I need to study?
Romney Supporter: [B]He's a communist.[/B] And those of us who are not voting for him know it.
Matthews: And what do you mean by communist?
Romney Supporter: You don't know?
Matthews: Just tell me. Help me out here. I want to know what you mean.
Romney Supporter: Oh I know what I mean.
Matthews: Well help us out. You're on national television.
Romney Supporter: I know I'm on national television.
Matthews: Well tell me what you mean when you just accused the guy of being a communist.
Romney Supporter: You just study it out.
Matthews: Is he an American?
Romney Supporter: No.
Matthews: What is he? What country's he from?
Romney Supporter: Just because he was born here doesn't mean he thinks like us. [B]He's a communist, buddy.[/B]
Matthews: Ok, thank you.
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[SIZE="5"]GAME OVER LIBTARDOS[/SIZE] Study it out.[/QUOTE]
I saw that, I wonder if she ever found out how much of a clueless idiot she came off as on tv:oldlol:
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[QUOTE=Math2]The Democrats are communistic, socialistic, racist, anti-white, anti-male and anti-rich. You can argue the same exact thing for Democrats.
In regards to immigration, I only believe that they should soften the line on legal immigration, maybe let more people in legally, maybe. But not with illegal immigrants. I think they should absolutely be deported.[/QUOTE]
Except for the part where none of that is true. Being for a woman's right to choose doesn't mean you're anti-male. Being in favor of same sex marriage doesn't make you against heterosexual marriage. Racist makes no sense and likely a function of your own idiocy and ignorance. Lastly, if you knew a thing about communism or socialism you'd know that despite the most left leaning politicians, the US and the Democrats in general are nowhere near true communists or socialists.
You're just another idiot kid with no career, no education, and a bunch of GOP and libertarian talking points. Probably another kid so dead set against any gov't assistance but likely can't live on their own without handouts from their mommy and daddy.
This site has a bunch of them; you're a dime a dozen.
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Repubs gonna come back with an attractive, conservative, catholic, latino female to run for president in 2016. Watch out Dems!
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[QUOTE=Droid101]No you can't. Name a prominent politician having any of those views.
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No Republican politician has blatantly said anything racist either. It's all propaganda and I have to hand it to the Democrats on that one. They'll sell you a bridge and tell you they'll give you a discount too if it meant garnishing a vote.
You won't find radical Democratic politicians out in public mouthing off. That job is left to the Radical and Progressive media. There is no denying that the media swings Far Left and everything Math said in his post applies to the media.
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Yeah obviously that huge latino population in Ohio and Virginia will turn things around for the GOP... :rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]No Republican politician has blatantly said anything racist either. It's all propaganda and I have to hand it to the Democrats on that one. They'll sell you a bridge and tell you they'll give you a discount too if it meant garnishing a vote.[/quote]George Allen said some pretty live shit. And people like Arpaio leading the charge on racial profiling didn't win your party any non-white friends.
[quote]You won't find radical Democratic politicians out in public mouthing off. That job is left to the Radical and Progressive media. There is no denying that the media swings Far Left and everything Math said in his post applies to the media.[/QUOTE]
Fox News is "media," Drudge is media, Breitbart, etc. IT's funny that you complain about liberal bias after all the right-wing media outlets that spout that crap just showed that they're completely off-base when discounting pollsters, Nate Silver, and the "liberal" media that promote them. You'd think you'd learn something from how completely wrong your alleged "fair and balanced" news sources were.
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[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]No Republican politician has blatantly said anything racist either. It's all propaganda and I have to hand it to the Democrats on that one. They'll sell you a bridge and tell you they'll give you a discount too if it meant garnishing a vote.
You won't find radical Democratic politicians out in public mouthing off. That job is left to the Radical and Progressive media. There is no denying that the media swings Far Left and everything Math said in his post applies to the media.[/QUOTE]
i honestly don't understand how some of you on the right don't even realize by now what your party stands for. it boggles my mind how you all keep pretending both sides are the same when they're anything but the same. its like saying black and white colors are the same, thats how different they are. if you seriously think the left has just as many racists as the right you don't have a working brain. if you think the left has nearly as many scary extremists as the right does you just aren't following the simple reality of party makeups, or the type of people that make up supporting the different issues each party stands for.
its not the media, there is no way they could even fabricate whats obvious. i mean its simple common sense and i don't understand how some of you who follow this stuff even a little bit don't even realize some of the most obvious characteristics of each party by now :biggums:
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Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
[QUOTE=Droid101]
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Any other talking points on the menu today?[/QUOTE]
Wow, that graph is ludicrous.