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Kobe trying to regain that street hunger
The Magic beat the Lakers in NBA Finals Game 3.
Los Angeles leads the series 2-1
Game 4 is Thursday in Orlando.
Discuss how game 3 went and your thoughts going into game 4.
And, discuss how Kobe acted in the post-game press conference! He seemed MAD
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Re: Kobe trying to regain that street hunger
Am I the only person who thinks some of it's an act? He's obviously very intense, but he won't even answer questions that might ask him to break character, and he just looks mad all the time. I actually think it's kind of funny.
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[QUOTE=GiveItToBurrito]Am I the only person who thinks some of it's an act? He's obviously very intense, but he won't even answer questions that might ask him to break character, and he just looks mad all the time. I actually think it's kind of funny.[/QUOTE]
i dont think its an act, i think kobe is just genuinely insane, and would be a serial killer if it werent for basketball
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[QUOTE=phoenix18]:lol Its an act. Every one knows this.[/QUOTE]
no, what's an act is Kobe going up to his wife and kids after every game and pretending he loves them, and when he used to pretend he was just a kid from Philly, until he got booed at the Philadelphia all star game.
Most of the stuff Kobe says and does off the court is an act. I'm pretty sure on the court that's the true Kobe.
For a basketball player its the best mentality to have, but as a person, it isnt
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[QUOTE=GUUS]no, what's an act is Kobe going up to his wife and kids after every game and pretending he loves them, and when he used to pretend he was just a kid from Philly, until he got booed at the Philadelphia all star game.
Most of the stuff Kobe says and does off the court is an act. I'm pretty sure on the court that's the true Kobe.
For a basketball player its the best mentality to have, but as a person, it isnt[/QUOTE]
He is like TO. Except he has 3 rings and a bunch of supporters that defend him. Both are greats. But they are always being phoney. Screaming he cant guard me at the commentators? Why does Kobe try to pretend that he is a bad/mean guy? It's all an act.
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[QUOTE=phoenix18]He is like TO. Except he has 3 rings and a bunch of supporters that defend him. Both are greats. But they are always being phoney. Screaming he cant guard me at the commentators? Why does Kobe try to pretend that he is a bad/mean guy? It's all an act.[/QUOTE]
Well Kobe is fake off the court, but now you think he is being fake on the court as well?
He has to be real some time. His entire life can't just be a fake lie.
I'm pretty sure his real personality is his on court personality. He is always trying to run up the score against teams. You don't see guys like Lebron doing that, IE guys without the true hunger to kill the opposing team.
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[QUOTE=GUUS]Well Kobe is fake off the court, but now you think he is being fake on the court as well?
He has to be real some time. His entire life can't just be a fake lie.
I'm pretty sure his real personality is his on court personality. He is always trying to run up the score against teams. You don't see guys like Lebron doing that, IE guys without the true hunger to kill the opposing team.[/QUOTE]
When can we discern "street hunger" from just taking a game too seriously? I just think that all that is just a part of his act to prove that he is an assasin on the court.
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[QUOTE=phoenix18]When can we discern "street hunger" from just taking a game too seriously? I just think that all that is just a part of his act to prove that he is an assasin on the court.[/QUOTE]
well Kobe doesnt have street hunger, he was raised a pampered rich kid. He just has the desire to dominate, also found in the likes of Napoleon, Hitler and Ceasar. However they were all leader of men. Kobe doesnt have the leadership quality, just the domination quality
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[QUOTE=GiveItToBurrito]Am I the only person who thinks some of it's an act? He's obviously very intense, but he won't even answer questions that might ask him to break character, and he just looks mad all the time. I actually think it's kind of funny.[/QUOTE]
I think it's an act. And every time he makes that stupid growl/snarl face I laugh my ass off.
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That's why LeBron didn't beat the Magic. He doesn't have that street hunger that Kobe has. The ability through play it through when it's all through and through.
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Petrius Guarding Kobe = Not A Good Idea
[B]It just so happens that Length is More Important [U]In The Paint [/U] than Off the Paint regarding Highly Skilled Perimeter 1 on 1 Shooters such as Bryant.
Agil-Faster-Shorter Defensive Stoppers 6`3-6`5 like Joe Dumars, Payton, Michael Cooper, Bryant Himself etc...do better on these types...
Not a Good Idea for the Magic IMO
Kobe will Keep Owning This Matchup, expect 45-50 pts tonight
This isn`t the 80s-90s when there was no help for the short-small or light weight players and especially Perimeter Players[/B]
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I have NEVER seen a smaller guy have success on Kobe...NEVER, he just raises up over them or posts them
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Atleast you can suggest a better defender... :rolleyes: He's done the best job out of the 3 guys they've put on him (Lee, Turkoglu).
You can't stop Kobe with 1 player... simple as that. They should be using more double teams, and force Odom, Vujacic, & Ariza to kill you from 3PT if you have to in the 4th quarter. Just make sure you box out for the rebound.
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[QUOTE=OneMoreSucka]It was pretty obvious I meant any defender, you idiot. [img]http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/345/facepalmsmiley.gif[/img]
It doesn't matter who you put on him, he's going to get his points.[/QUOTE]
Note the sarcasm.
Kobe will get his points no matter who is defending him, but I'd rather have Pietrus/ Turkoglu/ Lewis on him rather than Lee/ Reddick.
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[QUOTE=TMT]Note the sarcasm.
Kobe will get his points no matter who is defending him, but I'd rather have Pietrus/ Turkoglu/ Lewis on him rather than Lee/ Reddick.[/QUOTE]
I noted the sarcasm, but the alcohol made me think you were trying to be a dick, my apologies. Why I am drinking when it's still light out on a tuesday, I have no idea.
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Redick has actually done a better job on Kobe in this series than Pietrus, which is incredible. Pietrus has been a complete and utter dud in these Finals. He lacks intensity and he is playing like he is completely overwhelmed by the stage. That doesn't just apply to his horrible defense (going for every ball fake), but he has been nonexistent offensively. It doesn't even looks like he wants the ball.
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Re: Petrius Guarding Kobe = Not A Good Idea
Bryant has historically only struggled against taller/long defenders like Prince, Posey etc.
Putting Starks, Payton, Dumars on him would be suicide.
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He's putting too much pressure on himself mentally. He's acting and reacting too fast and needs to calm down and just play defense. That said, I think he's doing an all right job. Kobe's just making really really tough shots.
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[QUOTE=Fatal9]Bryant has historically only struggled against taller/long defenders like Prince, Posey etc.
Putting Starks, Payton, Dumars on him would be suicide.[/QUOTE]
Putting prince, Posey,Bowen,artest, piece, and marion on Mj is suicide. They just can't keep up with his speed. Mj already schooled Posey,piece,marion and Artest when he was 39/40 with sergery ridden knees. lol:lol Is this a joke??:hammerhead: :banghead:Also Mj doesn't struggle against Dumars,payton, and starks. He avged 40 on Dumars like in every game. Also fatal here is a Bruce Bowen quote on who the toughest he had to guard. "Michael Jordan. He really had an infectious personality with his teammates. He gave guys courage when they wouldn't have had it. Kind of like Kobe and his will right now." LOL Try again
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[QUOTE=TMT]Your right. They should double team Gasol and leave him wide open.[/QUOTE]
Well you've heard the stat, when Kobe takes less than 20 shots Lakers are undefeated. So obviously if you let Kobe take every shot, you have a good chance against the Lakers.
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Re: Kobe trying to regain that street hunger
[QUOTE=The_Yearning]for real brahs he playin out of his mind.
loosey goosey!!!![/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Basketball/NBA/Playoffs/2009/06/05/v060550A.jpg[/IMG]
[I]"My name is Kobe, and I'm hungry. *growls*"[/I]
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[QUOTE=Bodhi]Well you've heard the stat, when Kobe takes less than 20 shots Lakers are undefeated. So obviously if you let Kobe take every shot, you have a good chance against the Lakers.[/QUOTE]
One of the most misleading stats out there. It doesn't take into account that Kobe sat out a lot of fourth quarters, his teammates were struggling, etc.
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[QUOTE=wang4three]He's putting too much pressure on himself mentally. He's acting and reacting too fast and needs to calm down and just play defense. That said, I think he's doing an all right job. Kobe's just making really really tough shots.[/QUOTE]
Thats the catch 22 with Kobe...seems like no one ever plays bad defense on him. Its always he is making tough shots.
These are the shots Kobe is picking...Pietrus is putting him off his spots, his contests are too slow and his disicipline is horrid. This is a great player making a mediocre player make mistakes
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Re: Petrius Guarding Kobe = Not A Good Idea
[QUOTE=Bodhi]Well you've heard the stat, when Kobe takes less than 20 shots Lakers are undefeated. So obviously if you let Kobe take every shot, you have a good chance against the Lakers.[/QUOTE]
LeBron had virtually the same exact statistic. It means nothing. Of course, if the rest of the team is struggling, the superstar is going to take more shots. Then again, the rest of the Lakers weren't really struggling offensively in that first half. Actually, quite the opposite...
Kobe was just on fire, but you have to wonder if he is going to fall in love with that jumper and keep firing it up in the second half or if he will go back to distributing in the third quarter like he did (smartly) to open the game.
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I thought they(Petrius, Lee) were doing any excellent job on Kobe he was just making some extremly tough shots. If they continue to defend Kobe like that they should be fine... Kobe will cool down in the 2nd half.
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[QUOTE=rknine15]I thought they(Petrius, Lee) were doing any excellent job on Kobe he was just making some extremly tough shots. If they continue to defend Kobe like that they should be fine... Kobe will cool down in the 2nd half.[/QUOTE]
Nope... Pietrus' lack of discipline and going for nearly every ball fake has continued through the first two games and into this one. He has also allowed Kobe to get deep post position several times.
Lee was doing a better job, but he just doesn't have the size to contest Kobe's midrange jumpers.
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Re: Petrius Guarding Kobe = Not A Good Idea
Pietrus guarding anyone is a bad idea. For w/e reason this guy earned a rep as a solid defender while Lebron was dropping 40/8/8 on his head, many times in 1-on-1 situations at the top of the key. This guys has horrible footwork, poor positioning, bites on every pump fake, and just lacks any sort of intensity.
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Re: Petrius Guarding Kobe = Not A Good Idea
[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Pietrus guarding anyone is a bad idea. For w/e reason this guy earned a rep as a solid defender while Lebron was dropping 40/8/8 on his head, many times in 1-on-1 situations at the top of the key. This guys has horrible footwork, poor positioning, bites on every pump fake, and just lacks any sort of intensity.[/QUOTE]
I found that fascinating, as well. Somehow, Pietrus was getting a rep as a semi-LeBron stopper when James was pretty much destroying him every time he was matched up one-one-one. The fourth quarter of Game 5 of the ECF was one of the most embarrassing ownages I have seen. LeBron was waving off screens, posting up Pietrus 25-feet from the basket, and killing him on every possession.
Pietrus did, however, have a huge impact on the other side of the floor. He has been virtually non-existent offensively in this series and the guy looks flatout scared to me.
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Put JJ Redick on Kobe. He's the Kobe stopper!
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when are the dumb ass Magic players going to realize that you aren't going to block Kobe's jumpshot? Just let him pump fake, smother him, and put your hands up... force him to chuck. :rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=Fatal9]Bryant has historically only struggled against taller/long defenders like Prince, Posey etc.
Putting Starks, Payton, Dumars on him would be suicide.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, cause Bryant settles for jumpers. So putting a smaller player on him would be pointless. Out of all those players, Payton would be able to play him well. But thats the point. Kobe struggles with longer players because they create havoc for Kobe's jumper minded mentality.
Jordan DESTROYED smaller, and/or longer defenders. Jordan as described before is like a super guard combonation of Wade and Bryant.
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Kobe Bryant chokes in the NBA Finals again
Kobe Bryant missed 13 of his last 17 shots in the game, which means Kobe made 4 of his last 17 shots. If I had a nickel for every time this guy disappeared in key games during his career I would donate that 100,000 dollars to charity. Kobe was a stellar 5-10 from the free throw line!
Build a statue for this guy who's still trying to win his first championship as the leader of a team at the age of 30 years old....
cha cha cha choke
Like Mike, if he could be like Mike....
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
:hammertime: :hammertime:
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Re: Kobe Bryant chokes in the NBA Finals again
Why does everyone hate on Kobe so much?? LoL.
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Re: Kobe Bryant chokes in the NBA Finals again
Well, this is what's going to officially get BruceBlitz banned. Everyone rejoice!
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Re: Kobe Bryant chokes in the NBA Finals again
[QUOTE=LA_Showtime]Well, this is what's going to officially get BruceBlitz banned. Everyone rejoice![/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
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Honestly, Kobe isn't playing at a top-30 alltime level right now in these Finals
Outside his first game, blah, dude has been just solid. Right there with the likes of Drexler. Harper in his prime. T-Mac when he's less than his best. I see him as being a very good complimentary player right now.
Worse than Wade.
Worse than LeBron against this very same Magic team.
And even Kobe's first game it took him 34 shots to get 40 points.
Are you impressed by his play relative to his hype as being a possible top-10 player with a win in these Finals?
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Re: Kobe Bryant chokes in the NBA Finals again
I was expecting a pre-written, copied and pasted, 10 paragraph essay but not this :oldlol:
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Re: Kobe Bryant chokes in the NBA Finals again
bruceblitz is a homeless loser who wishes he was 1/2 of kobe bryant. pathetic moron lmfao
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Re: Kobe Bryant chokes in the NBA Finals again
A loss is a loss....Kobe played bad and made crucial mistakes.
Bottom line is he and the Lakers will have another ring in a weeks time.
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Re: Kobe Bryant chokes in the NBA Finals again
Bruce lives for these moments....But everyone...He's only keeping things in "Perspective"...Owell....Kobe was Garbage this game...Let the Haters rejoice....Jeff, don't Ban Bruce....This is his life....