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eal Signature moves: Charles Barkley the Gorilla Dunk!
In Basketball it's not always the "flashy" moves that make a player great...it's the small details...the little things that seperate great players from thier peers.
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[B]The Gorilla Dunk[/B]
Bieng able to to attack the basket from 15' and beyond and finishing with a thunderous 2 handed Dunk!...Literally no regard for who is in front of you...
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- One of the most facinating aspects of Sir Charles's game...was his ability to to [B]not only[/B] rebound but to create a play off of a rebound.( while the defense was not set)
- at only 6'3" Barkley had to use position and an intense hunger to get rebounds....but not only coul he rebound.....he had the skill and ability to create for himself or teamates...often times leading to a coast to coast Slam or a easy pass - layup for a teamate
[B]This is the epitome..of a Gorilla dunk[/B]
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Other aspects of his game....
- Barkley Blocks a shot...rebounds....and throws a perfect pass before the defense knows what happened>>[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvvSI2DRvF0&feature=player_detailpage#t=39s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvvSI2DRvF0&feature=player_detailpage#t=39s[/URL]
- Barkley rebounds...takes the ball all the way to the other key....goes behind his back to finish over a defender>>>[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvvSI2DRvF0&feature=player_detailpage#t=76s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvvSI2DRvF0&feature=player_detailpage#t=76s[/URL]
- with great timing to judge when the ball will go up
[B]and.... let's face it...[/B]Barkley was gifted with a great "lower center of gravity"...he used it for out boxing taller opponents...and unlike other great rebounders of his generation...he had amazing play making skills to attack after he grabbed one.
[B]Watching today's great Forwards like Lebron or Blake Griffin take a rebound all the way...I can only think back to Barkley...He did it better then anyone ever....[/B]
and later in his career l...ike many alltime greats he developed a consistent outside shot combined with a top shelf post game....he was a truly unique player.
- Barkley once said...he was paid to wreak havok on the basketball court....
and that's exactly what he did.....
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:applause: Great thread. That "epitome of a Gorilla dunk" is one of my favorite plays ever. So much raw power.
It's a shame there isn't that much video of Barkley on YouTube.
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wtf charles barkley is not 6-3 where the flying hell did you get that nmber? :lol
He has always been been extremely honest about being measured w/o shoes the many times the subject has come up in interview. The lowest number I've heard measured was 6-4 and 5/8ths w/o shoes in the 1992 Olympics and the highest was an even 6-5 w/o shoes. Seeing as how peoples height fluctuates a little the few fractions of an inch difference makes sense, and it also lines up with when he stands along side other players who measured very similarly (MJ, 6-4 and 7/8ths)
Barkely is "about" 6-5 w/o shoes. And with the advent of super thick 1990's shoe designs he's also gonna be roughly 6-6 with shoes on for those that care to guess his in-shoes figure.
6-3 :oldlol: , he gets shorter and shorter as time goes on
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[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]
6-3 :oldlol: , he gets shorter and shorter as time goes on[/QUOTE]
In a few years he'll be 5'10. Greatest PF under 6' to ever play the game :bowdown:
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[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]
[B]This is the epitome..of a Gorilla dunk[/B]
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I love that one. One of my favorite plays of all time.
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[QUOTE=BuffaloBill]In a few years he'll be 5'10. Greatest PF under 6' to ever play the game :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
:lol seriously
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[QUOTE=BuffaloBill]In a few years he'll be 5'10. Greatest PF under 6' to ever play the game :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
:roll:
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[B]6`4 3/4 or 1.95 mt[/B]
:bowdown:
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[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]wtf charles barkley is not 6-3 where the flying hell did you get that nmber? :lol
He has always been been extremely honest about being measured w/o shoes the many times the subject has come up in interview. The lowest number I've heard measured was 6-4 and 5/8ths w/o shoes in the 1992 Olympics and the highest was an even 6-5 w/o shoes. Seeing as how peoples height fluctuates a little the few fractions of an inch difference makes sense, and it also lines up with when he stands along side other players who measured very similarly (MJ, 6-4 and 7/8ths)
Barkely is "about" 6-5 w/o shoes. And with the advent of super thick 1990's shoe designs he's also gonna be roughly 6-6 with shoes on for those that care to guess his in-shoes figure.
6-3 :oldlol: , he gets shorter and shorter as time goes on[/QUOTE]
yeah my fault..I read his book and he said he was no taller then 6 4"...
I know there has been talk of his real height for years...I thought he was 6 3" - 6 4" with shoes...
but 6'3" and 6'4" is not that big of difference...:lol @acting like calling Barkley 6 3" is so wrong.
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[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]yeah my fault..I read his book and he said he was no taller then 6 4"...
I know there has been talk of his real height for years...I thought he was 6 3" - 6 4" with shoes...
but 6'3" and 6'4" is not that big of difference...:lol @acting like calling Barkley 6 3" is so wrong.[/QUOTE]
It's nothing personal :lol I'm only laughing cause ur not the only one who has underrated Barkleys height on ISH - im grouping what you said with what others on ISH have said the past few months
There are barkley threads and player measurement threads that have revealed Barkley to be (6-4.63, 6-4.75, or 6-5) w/o shoes, pick one - they are all probably correct due to minor height variations in people throughout a given day/lifetime.
In spite of threads with sources for his actual height somebody always still manages to undersell his height in other random threads by calling him 6-4 (ignoring that he was actually closer to 6-5). If his book says 6-4 than now these underrated figures are starting to make sense - that's probably the source of the problem, because Barkley probably meant 6-4 the same way Bill Russell means 6-9 when he refers to himself (Bill Russell was 6-9 and 5/8ths w/o shoes... which is 6-10 to most people... but Russell just called himself 6-9 and dropped the decimal altogether instead of rounding up)
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[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]It's nothing personal :lol I'm only laughing cause ur not the only one who has underrated Barkleys height on ISH - im grouping what you said with what others on ISH have said the past few months
There are barkley threads and player measurement threads that have revealed Barkley to be (6-4.63, 6-4.75, or 6-5) w/o shoes, pick one - they are all probably correct due to minor height variations in people throughout a given day/lifetime.
In spite of threads with sources for his actual height somebody always still manages to undersell his height in other random threads by calling him 6-4 (ignoring that he was actually closer to 6-5). If his book says 6-4 than now these underrated figures are starting to make sense - that's probably the source of the problem, because Barkley probably meant 6-4 the same way Bill Russell means 6-9 when he refers to himself (Bill Russell was 6-9 and 5/8ths w/o shoes... which is 6-10 to most people... but Russell just called himself 6-9 and dropped the decimal altogether instead of rounding up)[/QUOTE]
well two things Barkley has said...that stand out.
" He said he is no taller then 6 - 4""
" He said he always rounds up"
take that as what you will...:confusedshrug:
people lie about thier height all the time....
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What a beast!
Barkley athleticism is underrated.
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[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]wtf charles barkley is not 6-3 where the flying hell did you get that nmber? :lol
He has always been been extremely honest about being measured w/o shoes the many times the subject has come up in interview. The lowest number I've heard measured was 6-4 and 5/8ths w/o shoes in the 1992 Olympics and the highest was an even 6-5 w/o shoes. Seeing as how peoples height fluctuates a little the few fractions of an inch difference makes sense, and it also lines up with when he stands along side other players who measured very similarly (MJ, 6-4 and 7/8ths)
Barkely is "about" 6-5 w/o shoes. And with the advent of super thick 1990's shoe designs he's also gonna be roughly 6-6 with shoes on for those that care to guess his in-shoes figure.
6-3 :oldlol: , he gets shorter and shorter as time goes on[/QUOTE]
6-4 is still pretty short.
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[QUOTE=MavsSuperFan]6-4 is still pretty short.[/QUOTE]
He's not 6-4, he's ~ 6-5
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[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]He's not 6-4, he's ~ 6-5[/QUOTE]
:no:
[B]He is 6`4 3/4 ft or 1.95 mt
So Just Short and Shy of 6
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Did Round Mound hack into Alpha's account?
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[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]He's not 6-4, he's ~ 6-5[/QUOTE]
no he's barley if at all 6 4"...
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[QUOTE=andgar923]Did Round Mound hack into Alpha's account?[/QUOTE]
[B]The dream shake[/B]
[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273262"]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273262[/URL]
[B]Magic no look pass/Bird's Jumper[/B]
[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=275918&page=3"]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=275918&page=3[/URL]
[B]Tim Hardaway The UTEP2STEP[/B]
[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=274647"]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=274647[/URL]
:cheers:
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[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24][B]The dream shake[/B]
[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273262"]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273262[/URL]
[B]Magic no look pass/Bird's Jumper[/B]
[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=275918&page=3"]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=275918&page=3[/URL]
[B]Tim Hardaway The UTEP2STEP[/B]
[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=274647"]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=274647[/URL]
:cheers:[/QUOTE]
I stand corrected, good shit.
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[B]You Should also Show Charles Barkley`s Post Spin Moves. Among the Best Ever.[/B] :bowdown:
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[QUOTE=Round Mound][B]You Should also Show Charles Barkley`s Post Spin Moves. Among the Best Ever.[/B] :bowdown:[/QUOTE]
Very true.
He had lower center of gravity than his defenders and oddly enough had great balance and body control for a player his weight.
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[QUOTE=Round Mound]:no:
[B]He is 6`4 3/4 ft or 1.95 mt
So Just Short and Shy of 6
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[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]no he's barley if at all 6 4"...[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: so Barkley is the size of Jerry West now? Because your misinterpreting his book and quotes?
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[QUOTE=andgar923]Very true.
He had lower center of gravity than his defenders and oddly enough had great balance and body control for a player his weight.[/QUOTE]
[B]Yup [/B] :applause:
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If he could play defense he'd be the best PF of all time.
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His signature move was the "chicken wing" in the post. Do your homework OP.
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[QUOTE=M.Bustly15A5RU8]If he could play defense he'd be the best PF of all time.[/QUOTE]
[B]He Wasn`t as Bad Defender as People Make Him To Be. He Was Lazy Thats True. He Never had a Great Defensive Anchor Unlike guys like Duncan (Robinson), Malone (Eaton) etc to Make It Easier for him. The Year he Played with Moses just for the Season in 1985-86 he Finished Top 7 In Defensive Rating. Had he Played with a Better Defensive Team or Anchor He Would Have Benefited More So. He was Averaging like 2 SPG and 1.5 BPG when he had a Defensive Anchor but After that He Was Alone. I am Not Saying He Was Great Defender but He Was Certainly Above Average.
If You Wan`t to See Young Charles with Some Nice Defensive Plays Watch This While Defending Bird and McHale:[/B]
[B]Part 1:[/B] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJZYTkjnDlU[/url]
[B]Part 2:[/B] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nSA3KipOzU&feature=relmfu[/url]
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Charles Barkley was an amazing player. What I never understood was how he was such an aggressive assertive monster on offense and on the glass but yet such a lazy defender which even to this day he openly admits.
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[QUOTE=M.Bustly15A5RU8]If he could play defense he'd be the best PF of all time.[/QUOTE]
That's somewhat of a myth.
I know he jokes about it himself, but he was as good of a defender as he could be for somebody at his height at his position. While he may not have been the best one on one defender, he was still good at other aspects. He's at worst an avg defender and at best slightly better than average considering other aspects he brought to the table.
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[QUOTE=Round Mound][B]He Wasn`t as Bad Defender as People Make Him To Be. He Was Lazy Thats True. He Never had a Great Defensive Anchor Unlike guys like Duncan (Robinson), Malone (Eaton) etc to Make It Easier for him. The Year he Played with Moses just for the Season in 1985-86 he Finished Top 7 In Defensive Rating. Had he Played with a Better Defensive Team or Anchor He Would Have Benefited More So. He was Averaging like 2 SPG and 1.5 BPG when he had a Defensive Anchor but After that He Was Alone. I am Not Saying He Was Great Defender but He Was Certainly Above Average.
If You Wan`t to See Young Charles with Some Nice Defensive Plays Watch This While Defending Bird and McHale:[/B]
[B]Part 1:[/B] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJZYTkjnDlU[/url]
[B]Part 2:[/B] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nSA3KipOzU&feature=relmfu[/url][/QUOTE]
My dude, how old are you?
Just curious man. N.iggas now a days dont appreciate guys like chuck anymore.
IMO, Chuck with a few rings, would be GOAT PF. Just sucks that Jordan had to exist. (HA!)
But, Chuck was truly, a unique presence. To be honest, the man was 6'4. Just dominating the glass like it wasnt shit. I'm talking, I used to watch Chuck shit on n.iggas twice his size.lol
He would put you on his backside, box you out, and punk the shit out of you.
Chuck is my favorite PF of all time. Love how he was 6'4 and just dominating the paint. like people had to pay him rent.
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This isn't really signature. Ray Allen dunked like this too in his athletic prime. Look up youtube videos. A lot of people used to say how he would dunk like like a monkey/gorilla whatever lol, so it's not really signature to Charles. I don't think Ray Allen was copying Charles Barkley or anything that is just the way he dunked and it's just the way it looked when he dunked two handed.
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[QUOTE=MJ(Mean John)]My dude, how old are you?
Just curious man. N.iggas now a days dont appreciate guys like chuck anymore.
IMO, Chuck with a few rings, would be GOAT PF. Just sucks that Jordan had to exist. (HA!)
But, Chuck was truly, a unique presence. To be honest, the man was 6'4. Just dominating the glass like it wasnt shit. I'm talking, I used to watch Chuck shit on n.iggas twice his size.lol
He would put you on his backside, box you out, and punk the shit out of you.
Chuck is my favorite PF of all time. Love how he was 6'4 and just dominating the paint. like people had to pay him rent.[/QUOTE]
:applause:
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[QUOTE=Go Getter]His signature move was the "chicken wing" in the post. Do your homework OP.[/QUOTE]
no need to do home work..I'm baseing my opinions from watching his whole career...
- and yes you are correct...he did use the reverse pivot/spin ( while trapping his defender with a "chiken wing")...
- But just as Chris Webber and Shaq said.....Barkley was one of the first PF's who could take the ball coast to coast (off of the dribble and create)....he ushered in a whole new generation of Big Men ( along with Magic and Bird...Big Men wanted to be able to dribble after getting a rebound and take it all the way)
- what you are talking about is a Post move nearly all Big men use.....but Barkley was a pioneer in playing a more versatile game....and thinking about one move is very hard for any player.
- but when I think of Barkley...it's the Gorilla Dunk....him getting a board and creating a nasty attack of the rim and finishing with a two handed Dunk.
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[QUOTE=Smoke117]This isn't really signature. Ray Allen dunked like this too in his athletic prime. Look up youtube videos. A lot of people used to say how he would dunk like like a monkey/gorilla whatever lol, so it's not really signature to Charles. I don't think Ray Allen was copying Charles Barkley or anything that is just the way he dunked and it's just the way it looked when he dunked two handed.[/QUOTE]
Ray allen is a SG who patterns his game mostly after other great shooters....not Charles Barkley:facepalm .....
- Chuck's abilty to rebound and create off of the dribble was very unique in his generation...and helped influence the next generation of PF's
- of course guy's who dunk aren't copying Barkley.....it's about that one move that you think of when you say the players name.
- example: Ray Allen = screen Rub baseline 3 pointer....does that mean every player who shoots a baseline 3 is copying Ray?...
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He was a monster... although i wouldnt put him ahead of Lebron in that coast to coast / transition / fastbreak department, ive NEVER seen anything close to Lebron in that specific department... People keep talking about his strength, speed and so on when he freight trains up, but its his ballhandling (and unique vision/passing aswell) at that size that makes it even more unfair...
Those were highlights for Barkley, but this is what Lebron attempts every single time he grabs that ball at his own rim...
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[QUOTE=pauk]He was a monster... although i wouldnt put him ahead of Lebron in that coast to coast / transition / fastbreak department, ive NEVER seen anything close to Lebron in that specific department... People keep talking about his strength, speed and so on when he freight trains up, but its his ballhandling (and unique vision/passing aswell) at that size that makes it even more unfair...
[B]Those were highlights for Barkley, but this is what Lebron attempts every single time he grabs that ball at his own rim...[/B][/QUOTE]
Are you trying to suggest that highlight material for Barkley is but mere "routine" activity for Lebron? If so, No.
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BuffaloBill was here. I can sense his presence.
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[QUOTE=pauk]He was a monster... although i wouldnt put him ahead of Lebron in that coast to coast / transition / fastbreak department, ive NEVER seen anything close to Lebron in that specific department... People keep talking about his strength, speed and so on when he freight trains up, but its his ballhandling (and unique vision/passing aswell) at that size that makes it even more unfair...
Those were highlights for Barkley, but this is what Lebron attempts every single time he grabs that ball at his own rim...[/QUOTE]
- yeah you maybe right...but I was coming from the aspect of ....Barkley was one of the pioneer's ...
- Barkley helped redifine the role ( along with Magic and Bird)...Barkley was one of the first PF's who could do all those things...he helped change the traditional position to a more open / skilled game.
without Barkley and Magic..Lebron would be a 6'9" PF who just rebounded and post up.