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nathanjizzle 12-03-2012 06:15 PM

Re: Fifty-seven percent of Mexican immigrants on welfare
 
most of you idiots dont even pay enough taxes to cover yourselves but you want to talk about someone else using government money.:facepalm

very credible source OP.

KevinNYC 12-03-2012 06:29 PM

Re: Fifty-seven percent of Mexican immigrants on welfare
 
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Originally Posted by longhornfan1234
http://www.examiner.com/article/fift...alerts_article

:facepalm:

They come to America to depend on our government.


This 57% is according to a report from the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) and should be looked at with considerable skepticism. According to the premier chronicler of hate groups in America, the Southern Poverty Law Society they are linked to racist, nationalist groups and have a history of fraudulent reports.
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CIS was started in 1985 by a Michigan ophthalmologist named John Tanton — a man known for his racist statements about Latinos, his decades-long flirtation with white nationalists and Holocaust deniers, and his publication of ugly racist materials. CIS' creation was part of a carefully thought-out strategy aimed at creating a set of complementary institutions to cultivate the nativist cause — groups including the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and NumbersUSA. As is shown in Tanton's correspondence, lodged in the Bentley Historical Library at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Tanton came up with the idea in the early 1980s for "a small think tank" that would "wage the war of ideas."

And while Tanton never actually ran CIS, his correspondence shows that as late as 1994, nine years after it was started, Tanton, who remains on FAIR's board of directors today, saw himself as setting the "proper roles for FAIR and CIS." He raised millions of dollars for the think tank and published the writings of top CIS officials in his racist journal, The Social Contract. He maneuvered a friend on to the board of CIS — a man who shared his interest in eugenics and who attended events with Tanton where white nationalists gave presentations. Through it all, CIS pumped out study after study aimed at highlighting immigration's negative effects.

These studies have hardly been neutral. One of them concludes that because foreign women ("Third World gold-diggers") can obtain work permits by marrying American citizens, it's obvious that fraudulent marriage applications are "prevalent among terrorists." Another claims that because many immigrants have worked in Georgia since 2000, it's clear that unemployment among less educated native workers is up. A third says that because immigration levels have been high recently, immigrants make up a growing share of those drawing welfare.

But every one these claims, each of them at the heart of a different recent report from CIS, are either false or virtually without any supporting evidence. That came to fore again last September, when CIS organized a panel to accompany the release of yet another new report, this one claiming that municipalities in substantial numbers were permitting non-citizens to vote. When challenged, the panelists could only come up with a single possible example of the purported trend.

"CIS' attempts to blame immigrants for all of the U.S.'s problems have been laughable," said Angela Kelley of the Immigration Policy Center, a Washington, D.C., organization that uses well-known scholars to produce reports on immigration-related issues and has debunked many of the studies issued by CIS. "It is clear that CIS is not interested in serious research or getting the facts straight."

Krikorian has had considerable success in giving CIS the look of a reputable commentator on immigration. CIS regularly sends experts to testify to Congress and is frequently quoted by the mainstream media. But every now and then, the mask slips.

In 2007, a year before his comments on Washington Mutual, Krikorian accepted an invitation to speak at the Michigan State University chapter of Young Americans for Freedom. It apparently didn't bother him that MSU-YAF had been widely covered in the media for a series of nasty stunts — staging a "Catch an Illegal Immigrant Day," holding a "Koran Desecration" competition, and posting "Gays Spread AIDS" fliers across campus. He also didn't seem to mind being part of the same speakers series that included Nick Griffin, a Holocaust denier who heads the extremist British National Party, and Jared Taylor, who says blacks are incapable of civilization.

This report came out in August. Why is the examiner running a news story on it today? They give that away at the end.
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The approaching fiscal cliff is forcing congress and the current administration to contemplate cuts to services. Welfare use by immigrants, both illegally and legally within the United States, should be thoroughly examined and considered while making cuts.

bigkingsfan 12-03-2012 06:36 PM

Re: Fifty-seven percent of Mexican immigrants on welfare
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longhornfan1234
They come to America to depend on our government.


Nothing wrong with that, my family also had a lot of government help when we first migrated here. You gotta do whatever it takes to survive. :confusedshrug:

DeuceWallaces 12-03-2012 07:36 PM

Re: Fifty-seven percent of Mexican immigrants on welfare
 
Lol, idiot OP again. Jesus, nothing like making threads for studies from the #1 anti legal and illegal immigration "think-tank" in our country.

I'm sure that aligning yourself with racist ignorant groups will pay off big in the 2016 election.

KingBeasley08 12-03-2012 07:39 PM

Re: Fifty-seven percent of Mexican immigrants on welfare
 
It's called making a living for yourself in this country. Many people that come to the USA start poor and work themselves up. I do think we need to do something about illegal immigration but that's a completely different topic.

MMM 12-03-2012 07:41 PM

Re: Fifty-seven percent of Mexican immigrants on welfare
 
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Originally Posted by KingBeasley08
It's called making a living for yourself in this country. Many people that come to the USA start poor and work themselves up. I do think we need to do something about illegal immigration but that's a completely different topic.


Something needs to be done about Mexico and how the failure of the war on drugs impacts not only Mexico but America as well.

DukeDelonte13 12-03-2012 07:54 PM

Re: Fifty-seven percent of Mexican immigrants on welfare
 
article is completely unreliable. Either way there is no spending that this country does that even remotely compares to what we spend on our military. Imagine that type of sh*t this country could have if it reduced its military budget by 20%.

Kblaze8855 12-03-2012 07:55 PM

Re: Fifty-seven percent of Mexican immigrants on welfare
 
When you said welfare i was thinking.....a check.not food and medicare. I don't care about my taxes feeding some poor Mexican kid here any more than it providing medical supplies and food to poor people elsewhere.

tomtucker 12-04-2012 05:30 AM

Re: Fifty-seven percent of Mexican immigrants on welfare
 
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Originally Posted by CeltsGarlic
And islamists pwn europe.


true........and islamists are europe´s mexicans

TheMan 12-04-2012 12:02 PM

Re: Fifty-seven percent of Mexican immigrants on welfare
 
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Originally Posted by Droid101
I can help out here!

First, you need to quit your job. You get paid too much to be on welfare.

Then, you need to go get yourself an Obamaphone.

Then, march over to the food stamp emporium and grab your stamps!

Now, use all that stuff to buy a Cadillac (all Welfare queens have them!).

You are now a great Welfare Queen! Thanks Obama!

Also helps if you live in a red stste since they are likely to be more takers than givers...

NoGunzJustSkillz 12-04-2012 12:49 PM

Re: Fifty-seven percent of Mexican immigrants on welfare
 
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Originally Posted by The Macho Man
How do I go about getting welfare?

i think you have to have a kid. i tried getting public assistance before (had to, to try getting medical care) and they wanted me to go through all kinds of obstacles. Didn't even both following up with it tho.

NoGunzJustSkillz 12-04-2012 12:50 PM

Re: Fifty-seven percent of Mexican immigrants on welfare
 
i always wondered how illegal immigrants get welfare.

ElKuKuy 12-04-2012 02:27 PM

Re: Fifty-seven percent of Mexican immigrants on welfare
 
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Originally Posted by -p.tiddy-
oh yeah, that's exactly what I said...I said it's okay to pay for terrorism with my tax $$$ as long as "these damn mexicans don't get em"

:lol

:facepalm




brb going to go lynch a black man


Im not singling you out Tiddy.
Its the way this country thinks and its the media that brainwashes them.
Just notice the media will report something about illegals 2 or 3 days in a row and everyone will comment on it.Then they dont report sh*t about it for months and noone says a word.
Its like folks cant think for themselves.

Who cares where your tax dollars go.You have no say on that.
But I noticed theres never such an uproar about all the financial aid that goes to the middle east countries that want nothing more than to kill americans.That sh*t is mind boggling to me.


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