Just so we're clear everyone on ISH is aware the earth is warming up - right?

Global warming isn't a theory, it's an observation. It's a global average of temperatures recorded every year. It has nothing to do with the "weather" today or tomorrow, or having record lows or highs. It is just an average temperature over the course of a year.

And another observation is that of the past 100 years or so our rising temperatures aren't congruent with the more gradual changes the climate has undergone for the past few hundred thousand years - data which we can confidently collect through ice cores, fossilized tree species and rings and studying pollens and animal life in various layers of the earth. Even during ice age transition periods the climate wasn't rising in temperature every 10 or so years to the degree it is at this moment.

Everyone on ISH realizes this right?

And there is a connection that it is caused by greenhouse gases produced by human consumption. Greenhouse gases from various sources such as carbon emissions are being output at an insanely high rate that never was in the planets recent geologic past (by that I mean millions of years) - this production of man made greenhouse gases is also not a theory, it too is an observation. Smaller scale experiments allow scientists to duplicate and confirm with certainty the greenhouse gases that we are outputting warm environments as well as additional observations of how these gases in different concentrations affect other planets or isolated regions on our own planet. Those aforementioned ice cores have trapped gases of earth's atmosphere from all years up to several hundred thousand years back and we can track linearly the composition of our atmosphere and how it correlated to global temperature averages.

This stuff is entirely observation. Not theory. People who call it a theory are pigheadedly denying that it is an observation just like people out there who still believe the earth is flat. The "politics" that kick in are - what are we going to do about it? Anything? Should we? You guys can argue all you want about that, but global warming caused by man made greenhouse gas emissions isn't just a buzzword, idea, or a theory it's an observation.

[QUOTE]Everyone[/QUOTE]Never.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Global warming isn't a theory, it's an observation. It's a global average of temperatures recorded every year. It has nothing to do with the "weather" today or tomorrow, or having record lows or highs. It is just an average temperature over the course of a year.

And another observation is that of the past 100 years or so our rising temperatures aren't congruent with the more gradual changes the climate has undergone for the past few hundred thousand years - data which we can confidently collect through ice cores, fossilized tree species and rings and studying pollens and animal life in various layers of the earth. Even during ice age transition periods the climate wasn't rising in temperature every 10 or so years to the degree it is at this moment.

Everyone on ISH realizes this right?

And there is a connection that it is caused by greenhouse gases produced by human consumption. Greenhouse gases from various sources such as carbon emissions are being output at an insanely high rate that never was in the planets recent geologic past (by that I mean millions of years) - this production of man made greenhouse gases is also not a theory, it too is an observation. Smaller scale experiments allow scientists to duplicate and confirm with certainty the greenhouse gases that we are outputting warm environments as well as additional observations of how these gases in different concentrations affect other planets or isolated regions on our own planet. Those aforementioned ice cores have trapped gases of earth's atmosphere from all years up to several hundred thousand years back and we can track linearly the composition of our atmosphere and how it correlated to global temperature averages.

This stuff is entirely observation. Not theory. People who call it a theory are pigheadedly denying that it is an observation just like people out there who still believe the earth is flat. The "politics" that kick in are - what are we going to do about it? Anything? Should we? You guys can argue all you want about that, but global warming caused by man made greenhouse gas emissions isn't just a buzzword, idea, or a theory it's an observation.[/QUOTE]

TLDNR Wilt and his fans suck

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Global warming isn't a theory, it's an observation. [/QUOTE]
Anthropogenic Global Warming is a theory.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]You guys can argue all you want about that, but global warming caused by man made greenhouse gas emissions isn't just a buzzword, idea, or a theory it's an observation.[/QUOTE]
You've made a quite a leap here.

I think you need to organize your argument better.

[QUOTE=KevinNYC]Anthropogenic Global Warming is a theory.

You've made a quite a leap here.

I think you need to organize your argument better.[/QUOTE]
There is no leap, this isn't an argument. "anthropogenic global warming" is not a theory, it's an observation.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWT-EWKIR3M[/url]

The political question isn't whether it's caused by humans. The answer to what causes it is just as known and just as observed. It is pigheaded to declare that it isn't known. The political question is do we or should we do anything about it.

Global warming is just liberal propaganda.

stick to the gimmick michael

[QUOTE=GIF REACTION]stick to the gimmick michael[/QUOTE]

Says a failed gimmick account.

Ain't nobody got time to read all that ph@ggot

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]There is no leap, this isn't an argument. "anthropogenic global warming" is not a theory, it's an observation. [/QUOTE]
Climate scientists would not agree with you.

The leap you are making is similar to the argument made by the "vaccines cause autism crowd."

Two observations does not a proven theory make.

This is not to argue against the evidence that supports anthropogenic global warming, I'm talking about the way you phrased your argument.

It's not how scientists would talk. You basically got it backwards.

Just to say the earth got warmer last year is not an observation. It's a conclusion based on thousands of [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observation#Observation_in_science"]observations[/URL]. In science when you talk about [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory"]a theory[/URL] is a higher level [URL="http://www.nap.edu/read/6024/chapter/2#2"]of argument than an observation.[/URL]

[QUOTE]Theory: In science, a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses.
The contention that evolution should be taught as a "theory, not as a fact" confuses the common use of these words with the scientific use. In science, theories do not turn into facts through the accumulation of evidence. [B]Rather, theories are the end points of science. They are understandings that develop from extensive observation, experimentation, and creative reflection.[/B] They incorporate a large body of scientific facts, laws, tested hypotheses, and logical inferences. In this sense, evolution is one of the strongest and most useful scientific theories we have.[/QUOTE]

So, what is the "correct" temperature that the earth "should" be?

[QUOTE=NumberSix]So, what is the "correct" temperature that the earth "should" be?[/QUOTE]

A nice cozy 72 with low humidity and a light breeze.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Global warming isn't a theory, it's an observation. It's a global average of temperatures recorded every year. It has nothing to do with the "weather" today or tomorrow, or having record lows or highs. It is just an average temperature over the course of a year.

And another observation is that of the past 100 years or so our rising temperatures aren't congruent with the more gradual changes the climate has undergone for the past few hundred thousand years - data which we can confidently collect through ice cores, fossilized tree species and rings and studying pollens and animal life in various layers of the earth. Even during ice age transition periods the climate wasn't rising in temperature every 10 or so years to the degree it is at this moment.

Everyone on ISH realizes this right?

And there is a connection that it is caused by greenhouse gases produced by human consumption. Greenhouse gases from various sources such as carbon emissions are being output at an insanely high rate that never was in the planets recent geologic past (by that I mean millions of years) - this production of man made greenhouse gases is also not a theory, it too is an observation. Smaller scale experiments allow scientists to duplicate and confirm with certainty the greenhouse gases that we are outputting warm environments as well as additional observations of how these gases in different concentrations affect other planets or isolated regions on our own planet. Those aforementioned ice cores have trapped gases of earth's atmosphere from all years up to several hundred thousand years back and we can track linearly the composition of our atmosphere and how it correlated to global temperature averages.

This stuff is entirely observation. Not theory. People who call it a theory are pigheadedly denying that it is an observation just like people out there who still believe the earth is flat. The "politics" that kick in are - what are we going to do about it? Anything? Should we? You guys can argue all you want about that, but global warming caused by man made greenhouse gas emissions isn't just a buzzword, idea, or a theory it's an observation.[/QUOTE]

If global warming was real then why did we have record snowstorms last winter? :facepalm

[QUOTE=Facepalm]If global warming was real then why did we have record snowstorms last winter? :facepalm[/QUOTE]
various possibilities.

a simple one is that warm air zones tend to gather greater amounts of humidity, and when that humidity moves in to a cool zone, there will naturally be more precipitation than normal.

from my understanding, that's just 'climate 101' stuff.

that's exactly why "global warming" is basically a strawman term. the scientists involved in the theory never meant that term to suggest that climate equals localised weather, but the public and the media prefer that inaccurate understanding in order to enable their ignorance and disingenuous attitudes.

the actual theory is that global climate is being [u]destabilised[/u], with the average global temp going up.

destabilisation is a bad thing, because civilisation is highly tuned to temperature and weather events being in predictable parameters in order for commerce and quality of life to go smoothly and loss of life to be minimised.

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i'm pretty sure you aren't really interested the facts, but there you go in case i'm wrong.

[QUOTE=Facepalm]If global warming was real then why did we have record snowstorms last winter? :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Because the two things have exactly zero to do with each other.