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Of course all kinds of noise...
But if I ranked only the top 5 Raptors on the basis of performance per game, and intanglibles I would go with :
1) Vince Carter
2) Chris Bosh
3) Tracy McGrady
4) Charles Oakly
5) Antonio Davis
[QUOTE=Jballer]
1) [B]Jonas Valanciunas[/B]
2) Chris Bosh
3) Tracy McGrady
4) Charles Oakly
5) Antonio Davis[/QUOTE]
Fixed :pimp:
[QUOTE=Toni]Fixed :pimp:[/QUOTE]
So...Vince isn't even in the top 5?? :oldlol:
Posting the full list from _____. :D
50. Jerryd Bayless, 2010-2012: 10.5 ppg, 3.9 apg
49. Jorge Garbajosa, 2006-2008: 8.0 ppg, 4.7 rpg
48. Zan Tabak, 1995-1998: 7.1 ppg, 4.4 rpg
47. Reggie Slater, 1996-1999: 7.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg
46. Milt Palacio, 2003-2005: 5.2 ppg, 3.3 apg
45. Popeye Jones, 1996-1998: 7.9 ppg, 8.4 rpg
44. Kris Humphries, 2006-2009: 4.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg.
43. Jonas Valanciunas, 2012-present: 8.9 ppg, 6.0 rpg
42. Kyle Lowry, 2012-present: 11.6 ppg, 6.4 apg
41. Linas Kleiza, 2010-2013: 9.8 ppg, 4.0 rpg
40. Jarrett Jack, 2009-2010: 11.3 ppg, 5.0 apg
39. Carlos Rogers, 1995-1998: 8.4 ppg, 4.1 rpg
38. Leandro Barbosa, 2010-2012: 12.8 ppg, 1.8 apg
37. Dee Brown, 1997-2000: 10.1 ppg, 2.8 apg
36. Charlie Villanueva, 2005-2006: 13.0 ppg, 6.4 rpg
35. Sonny Weems, 2009-2011: 8.3 ppg, 2.7 rpg
34. Jason Kapono, 2007-2009: 7.7 ppg, 1.8 rpg
33. Jamario Moon, 2007-2009: 8.0 ppg, 5.6 rpg
32. Joey Graham, 2005-2009: 6.4 ppg, 3.1 rpg
31. Matt Bonner, 2004-2006: 7.3 ppg, 3.6 rpg
30. John Wallace, 1997-1999: 12.0 ppg, 4.2 rpg
29. Dell Curry, 1999-2002: 6.7 ppg, 1.4 rpg
28. Keon Clark, 2000-2002: 10.5 ppg, 6.7 rpg
27. Ed Davis, 2010-2013: 7.7 ppg, 6.8 rpg
26. Walt Williams, 1996-1999: 15.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg
25. Oliver Miller, 1995-1996 and 1997-1998: 9.4 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 2.8 apg
24. Radoslav Nesterovic, 2006-2008 and 2009-2010: 6.3 ppg, 4.1 rpg
23. Tracy Murray, 1995-1996 and 2000-2002: 11.0 ppg, 2.9 rpg
22. Mike James, 2005-2006: 20.3 ppg, 5.8 apg
21. Kevin Willis, 1998-2001: 9.1 ppg, 6.8 rpg
20. Rafer Alston, 2002-2003 and 2004-2005: 11.8 ppg, 5.6 apg
19. Marcus Camby, 1996-1998: 13.5 ppg, 6.8 rpg
18. TJ Ford, 2006-2008: 13.2 ppg, 7.2 apg
17. Jerome Williams, 2000-2004: 7.9 ppg, 7.0 rpg
16. Donyell Marshall, 2003-2005: 13.8 ppg, 8.7 rpg
15. Charles Oakley, 1998-2001: 7.9 ppg, 8.0 rpg
14. Anthony Parker, 2006-2009: 11.9 ppg, 4.0 rpg
13. Amir Johnson, 2009-2013: 8.2 ppg, 6.3 rpg
12. Jalen Rose, 2003-2006: 16.2 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 3.4 apg
11. Tracy McGrady, 1997-2000: 11.1 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.5 apg
10. DeMar DeRozan, 2009-present: 15.2 ppg, 3.5 rpg
9. Alvin Williams, 1997-2006: 9.3 ppg, 4.3 apg
8. Doug Christie, 1995-2000: 14.2 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 3.8 apg
7. Damon Stoudamire, 1995-1998: 19.6 ppg, 8.8 apg
6. Andrea Bargnani, 2006-2013: 15.2 ppg, 4.8 rpg
5. Antonio Davis, 1999-2004 and 2005-2006: 12.9 ppg, 9.2 rpg
4. Morris Peterson, 2000-2007: 12.0 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.8 apg
3. Jose Manuel Calderon, 2005-2013: 10.0 ppg, 7.2 apg
2. Chris Bosh, 2003-2010: 20.2 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 2.2 apg
1. Vince Carter, 1998-2005: 23.4 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 3.9 apg
There we go. Thoughts ?
Bargs number 6?? signs of a sad franchise. :(
Also Walt Williams should be higher on the list imo.
Bargnani shouldn't even be in the top 10.
That is one depressing list.
LOL
1 - 15 are not too bad really though much debate about the order. Bargnani is probably in the top 15 albiet at the low end.
Doug Christie is a glaring error in my mind. While his game stats were probably good his "half season hold out" after he signed a contract AND the fact that the CBA wouldnt allow a renegotion or extension (at the time) was a significant distraction on a team on the rise at the time (TMac Vince era). However that is intangible not statistical.
I would also argue Rasho had a bigger impact that pure stats suggest. In fact his stats per game are top 20 and he was the definative leader (I think) of that surprise team that won the Atlantic title.
But the debate on the relative rankings could be endless.
I would summarize only what I call the glaring errors.
Doug Christie not top 20
Bargnani top 20 but not that high
Rasho top 20
Rudy Gay should also be there soon enough. If he ever does make an all-star team, he will be cemented in the Top 10. :banana:
Might think of my own list later on.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Posting the full list from _____. :D
50. Jerryd Bayless, 2010-2012: 10.5 ppg, 3.9 apg
49. Jorge Garbajosa, 2006-2008: 8.0 ppg, 4.7 rpg
48. Zan Tabak, 1995-1998: 7.1 ppg, 4.4 rpg
47. Reggie Slater, 1996-1999: 7.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg
46. Milt Palacio, 2003-2005: 5.2 ppg, 3.3 apg
45. Popeye Jones, 1996-1998: 7.9 ppg, 8.4 rpg
44. Kris Humphries, 2006-2009: 4.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg.
43. Jonas Valanciunas, 2012-present: 8.9 ppg, 6.0 rpg
42. Kyle Lowry, 2012-present: 11.6 ppg, 6.4 apg
41. Linas Kleiza, 2010-2013: 9.8 ppg, 4.0 rpg
40. Jarrett Jack, 2009-2010: 11.3 ppg, 5.0 apg
39. Carlos Rogers, 1995-1998: 8.4 ppg, 4.1 rpg
38. Leandro Barbosa, 2010-2012: 12.8 ppg, 1.8 apg
37. Dee Brown, 1997-2000: 10.1 ppg, 2.8 apg
36. Charlie Villanueva, 2005-2006: 13.0 ppg, 6.4 rpg
35. Sonny Weems, 2009-2011: 8.3 ppg, 2.7 rpg
34. Jason Kapono, 2007-2009: 7.7 ppg, 1.8 rpg
33. Jamario Moon, 2007-2009: 8.0 ppg, 5.6 rpg
32. Joey Graham, 2005-2009: 6.4 ppg, 3.1 rpg
31. Matt Bonner, 2004-2006: 7.3 ppg, 3.6 rpg
30. John Wallace, 1997-1999: 12.0 ppg, 4.2 rpg
29. Dell Curry, 1999-2002: 6.7 ppg, 1.4 rpg
28. Keon Clark, 2000-2002: 10.5 ppg, 6.7 rpg
27. Ed Davis, 2010-2013: 7.7 ppg, 6.8 rpg
26. Walt Williams, 1996-1999: 15.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg
25. Oliver Miller, 1995-1996 and 1997-1998: 9.4 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 2.8 apg
24. Radoslav Nesterovic, 2006-2008 and 2009-2010: 6.3 ppg, 4.1 rpg
23. Tracy Murray, 1995-1996 and 2000-2002: 11.0 ppg, 2.9 rpg
22. Mike James, 2005-2006: 20.3 ppg, 5.8 apg
21. Kevin Willis, 1998-2001: 9.1 ppg, 6.8 rpg
20. Rafer Alston, 2002-2003 and 2004-2005: 11.8 ppg, 5.6 apg
19. Marcus Camby, 1996-1998: 13.5 ppg, 6.8 rpg
18. TJ Ford, 2006-2008: 13.2 ppg, 7.2 apg
17. Jerome Williams, 2000-2004: 7.9 ppg, 7.0 rpg
16. Donyell Marshall, 2003-2005: 13.8 ppg, 8.7 rpg
15. Charles Oakley, 1998-2001: 7.9 ppg, 8.0 rpg
14. Anthony Parker, 2006-2009: 11.9 ppg, 4.0 rpg
13. Amir Johnson, 2009-2013: 8.2 ppg, 6.3 rpg
12. Jalen Rose, 2003-2006: 16.2 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 3.4 apg
11. Tracy McGrady, 1997-2000: 11.1 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 2.5 apg
10. DeMar DeRozan, 2009-present: 15.2 ppg, 3.5 rpg
9. Alvin Williams, 1997-2006: 9.3 ppg, 4.3 apg
8. Doug Christie, 1995-2000: 14.2 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 3.8 apg
7. Damon Stoudamire, 1995-1998: 19.6 ppg, 8.8 apg
6. Andrea Bargnani, 2006-2013: 15.2 ppg, 4.8 rpg
5. Antonio Davis, 1999-2004 and 2005-2006: 12.9 ppg, 9.2 rpg
4. Morris Peterson, 2000-2007: 12.0 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.8 apg
3. Jose Manuel Calderon, 2005-2013: 10.0 ppg, 7.2 apg
2. Chris Bosh, 2003-2010: 20.2 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 2.2 apg
1. Vince Carter, 1998-2005: 23.4 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 3.9 apg
There we go. Thoughts ?[/QUOTE]
Id have Stoudamire ahead of Bargs.
Id also have Kevin Willis higher, based more on the respectability he brought to the Raps then the points and board.
Amir Johnson is about 20 slots to high.
dead @ bargnani being 6th ahhahahaha
[QUOTE=Zan Tabak]Bargs number 6?? signs of a sad franchise. :(
Also Walt Williams should be higher on the list imo.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Just taking a better look at this list...ha ha
Milt Palacio and Reggie Slater.....Really.....:facepalm