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Blake Griffin Won't Be The #1 Pick In The 2009 NBA Draft
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According to Chad Ford & other various news sources, John Wall the top recruit in the country is looking into entering the 2009 NBA Draft because he is a 5th year senior and turns 19 in the calendar year.
David Stern obviously didn't think this one out fully when the new CBA was put in place, great idea of he does enter.
Wall is without any doubt or question the #1 pick in the 2009 NBA Draft[/quote]
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they have to be one year removed from high school
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[QUOTE=Interminator][img]http://www.thescoutreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/john-wall2.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Nahh Blake Griffin [B]WILL[/B] be the first pick
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[QUOTE=twolvesfan]they have to be one year removed from high school[/QUOTE]
OWNED.
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Wall has a sick highlight tape
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4CbQGBbUOw[/url]
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Blake Griffin would be picked over John Wall, even if he could enter the draft which he can not.
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[QUOTE=Huey Freeman]OWNED.[/QUOTE]
he can still bring it to court if he wants to and imo he would have a decent case. and he might be the right kid to do it.
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[QUOTE=twolvesfan]they have to be one year removed from high school[/QUOTE]
Not exactly.
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Mike, FL: Is John Wall the No. 1 pick in 2010 Draft. He was awesome at the Hoop Summit game.
Chad Ford: He was awesome and he'll compete with Ed Davis and a few other freshmen for that.[b] However, there is some buzz that Wall believes he might be eligible for THIS year's draft. I've been doing some digging and will be filing a story later today. The short rub is this: Wall is a 5th year senior and depending on how you read the collective bargaining agreement, 5th year seniors are eligible for the draft as long as the turn 19 in the calander year (Wall does). The league is taking a wait and see approach. If he declares, they'll research and make a ruling. If he does declare and is ruled eligible (two big ifs) he's a Top 5 pick in this draft. Maybe Top 3."[/b][/quote]
Of course he actually has a case when challenging the NBA.
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[QUOTE](b) A player shall be eligible for selection in the first NBA Draft with respect to which he has satisfied all applicable requirements of Section 1(b)(i) below and one of the requirements of Section 1(b)(ii) below:
(i) The player (A) is or will be at least 19 years of age during the calendar year in which the Draft is held, and (B) with respect to a player who is not an international player (defined below), at least one (1) NBA Season has elapsed since the player’s graduation from high school (or, if the player did not graduate from high school, since the graduation of the class with which the player would have graduated had he graduated from high school); and [/QUOTE]
If the rule says that he has to be at least one year after graduation why would he have a case.
Edit: Didnt know about the mother being sick. Small chance they make an exception. But the fact hes 19 may not change anything really.
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[QUOTE=Younggrease]he can still bring it to court if he wants to and imo he would have a decent case. and he might be the right kid to do it.[/QUOTE]
+1.
Reportedly his mother is also in poor health, and this would save him the trouble of waiting a full year before being able to take care of his family financially.
Tracy McGrady,for those who don't know, was a 5th year HS senior when he entered the NBA Draft although it seemed he was going to decide between Kentucky & Florida State.
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Wall is sick but damn.. I could only imagine how well I'd do if I was a 19 yr old going against all these small ass highschoolers...
I graduated at 17 yrs old and was still a puny lil kid. At 19 youre damn near a grown man. 5th yearsenior shmith year senior.
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[QUOTE=Interminator]+1.
Reportedly his mother is also in poor health, and this would save him the trouble of waiting a full year before being able to take care of his family financially.
Tracy McGrady,for those who don't know, was a 5th year HS senior when he entered the NBA Draft although it seemed he was going to decide between Kentucky & Florida State.[/QUOTE]
there wasnt any rules against HS ballers entering back then
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What do you mean by 5th year senior? Did he flunk?
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[QUOTE=NOHCP3]If the rule says that he has to be at least one year after graduation why would he have a case.[/QUOTE]
I think its because he is doing an uneccesary 5th year,and he turns 19 in the calendar year.
That forbid him from playing in the McDonalds All American Game.
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[quote=NOHCP3]If the rule says that he has to be at least one year after graduation why would he have a case.
Edit: Didnt know about the mother being sick. Small chance they make an exception. But the fact hes 19 may not change anything really.[/quote]It can be spun that his normal high school class graduated the year before, making him eligible.
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[QUOTE=twolvesfan]there wasnt any rules against HS ballers entering back then[/QUOTE]
It was a random fact that I just posted.
Both went to Christian Academies that allow a 5th year of HS for whatever reason.
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Wow he looks awesome in those highlights. His game looks a lot like Jamal Crawford.
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[QUOTE=NOHCP3] (b) A player shall be eligible for selection in the first NBA Draft with respect to which he has satisfied all applicable requirements of Section 1(b)(i) below and one of the requirements of Section 1(b)(ii) below:
(i) The player (A) is or will be at least 19 years of age during the calendar year in which the Draft is held, and (B) with respect to a player who is not an international player (defined below), at least one (1) NBA Season has elapsed since the player
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[QUOTE=Interminator]I think its because he is doing an uneccesary 5th year,and he turns 19 in the calendar year.
That forbid him from playing in the McDonalds All American Game.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=vert48]It can be spun that his normal high school class graduated the year before, making him eligible.[/QUOTE]
Ahh i see. Makes sense. But I still think the chances that the NBA making an exception are slim. The fact that is was his choice to do this 5th year may hurt his chances. Since last year was his "real senior" year did he play in the high school ASG'S?
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Even if he enters, he won't be drafted over B.G. Do you have to make a dumb thread every year around this time?
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[QUOTE=BingBongBrother]How he looks awesome in those highlights. His game looks a lot like Jamal Crawford.[/QUOTE]
He looks kinda like him also except Wall has more of a PG mentality.
The one thing about this case is that Wall won't set a floodgate of HS players doing this simply because you would have to go to a Christian Academy after having failed previously.
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[quote=YAH trick YAH]Wall has a sick highlight tape
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4CbQGBbUOw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4CbQGBbUOw[/URL][/quote]All they showed was him traveling, dunking and being an arrogant punk. He should fit right in.
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[QUOTE=pp38]I think the bold is where the ambiguity is arising. Wall didn't graduate, and would have/should have graduated in 08[/QUOTE]
Wall would have graduated last year if he were at a normal public/private HS.
Take Stern to court John.
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[quote=Interminator]It was a random fact that I just posted.
Both went to Christian Academies that allow a 5th year of HS for whatever reason.[/quote]Jamaal Crawford did the same thing before he went to Michigan.
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[QUOTE=Mr_Basketball#1]Even if he enters, he won't be drafted over B.G. Do you have to make a dumb thread every year around this time?[/QUOTE]
Eat ****.
Didn't you learn from the 2008 NBA Draft you dip**** that 9/10 times a NBA GM will draft an elite PG prospect over an elite PF prospect.
Blake Griffin=6'8 PF w/great athleticism, and developing range.
John Wall=6'3 PG w/great athleticism,blazing speed,& great court vision.
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Well technically if he is a grade 13 then he is one year removed from graduating highschool no? Because then IMO he should be able to enter.
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[QUOTE=vert48]Jamaal Crawford did the same thing before he went to Michigan.[/QUOTE]
I might be wrong but didn't he enter the 1999 NBA Draft only to pull out at the last minute?
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the HE WILL BE THE #1 PICK is your opinion, not the overwhelming opinion. he might not even be higher than Rubio. He'd be top 3 i think though definitely. But not over griffin, no chance in hell.
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[quote=Interminator]I might be wrong but didn't he enter the 1999 NBA Draft only to pull out at the last minute?[/quote]Crawford 'tried' to enter the draft, but sent in his letter too late, so the NBA did not accept it. He ended up serving an 8 game suspension for it (following an initial 6 game suspension for accepting room and board while in high school). So, he was suspended for 14 games during his only year at Michigan.
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[QUOTE=Interminator]Eat ****.
Didn't you learn from the 2008 NBA Draft you dip**** that 9/10 times a NBA GM will draft an elite PG prospect over an elite PF prospect.
Blake Griffin=6'8 PF w/great athleticism, and developing range.
John Wall=6'3 PG w/great athleticism,blazing speed,& great court vision.[/QUOTE]
whats with the EAT ****? you are WRONG. don't compound it by being a dick.
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I would easily take John Wall over Blake Griffin. John Wall is a once in a decade talent, a better passing derrick rose.
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How's Keith Brumbaugh working out?
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Of course it wont be Blake Griffin because Keith Brumbaugh is going to be the #1 pick
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[QUOTE=KeylessEntry]Of course it wont be Blake Griffin because Keith Brumbaugh is going to be the #1 pick[/QUOTE]
Too bad he isn't eligible this year.
I already have a player in mind who will be a NBA superstar and I have been on his bandwagon for awhile, but you clowns will have to wait to find out.
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[QUOTE=niko]whats with the EAT ****? you are WRONG. don't compound it by being a dick.[/QUOTE]
How am I wrong?
An elite PG prospect almost always goes above an elite PF prospect.
Most people don't know of John Wall and his talent because he hasn't played college basketball yet and gained the nationwide attention, but off of talent & potential alone he is on par with Derrick Rose.
Wall projects as a better scorer than Rose, because he actually gets hot from the perimeter and can become unstoppable, while Rose has yet to develop a consistent outside shot.
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good to see the op still belongs on my ignore list
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[QUOTE=niko]the HE WILL BE THE #1 PICK is your opinion, not the overwhelming opinion. he might not even be higher than Rubio. He'd be top 3 i think though definitely. But not over griffin, no chance in hell.[/QUOTE]
If Wall enters along with Rubio & Young Money.
That would be the best crop of PG prospects in NBA History in a Draft.
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This kid is simply amazing.
I saw a couple games before and his game is just like Wade's. He moves like Wade, he blocks like Wade, he even shoots like Wade. He should go to college for a year though, he still needs to learn a bit but he will have a really bright NBA future.