If Kobe Can't Win It All in 2013 Then He Should NOT Be Top 10

Kobe is 34 and on the way out. It's not his job to lead this team anymore. We'll go as far as Dwight takes us.

[QUOTE=IamRAMBO24]I disagree. This is Kobe's team. He has made that clear.

[B]Let's get away from all the rubbish talk with materialistic accolades like rings and stats.[/B]

Real talk.

Kobe just aint that great if he can't take this team to the championship. Period. He is not playing injured; he is still in his older prime; he's got them legs.

The big cloud on Kobe's head is whether or not he is a true leader. [B]Remember more than half of those rings belong to Shaq.[/B][/QUOTE]

What the fvck? What should we judge NBA players on then? Who has the nicest hair :lol stupidity like this needs to be purged from ISH

[QUOTE=LA_Showtime]Kobe is 34 and on the way out. It's not his job to lead this team anymore. We'll go as far as Dwight takes us.[/QUOTE]

Wrong. Kobe is still the emotional leader. He needs to set the tone as far as focus and the personality of this team. Dwight's clown act isn't going to cut it

[QUOTE=longtime lurker]What the fvck? What should we judge NBA players on then? Who has the nicest hair :lol stupidity like this needs to be purged from ISH[/QUOTE]
Rings almost have nothing to do with individual talent/skill.

kobe is top 10, can't diminish what he has already accomplished..

he had many defining moments during the playoffs.. off the top of my head:

-kobe taking over against the pacers in overtime when shaq fouled out.

-I believe he had an insane series against the spurs on the second championship with shaq.

-phoenix series with smush parker as the point guard...

-2010 phoenix series and when he took over game 6

career playoff average is 25, 5, 4.. his numbers would be higher if you take off his first to years averaging 8pts...

including his career as a whole, not many players have a better resume... not many players win without a good supporting cast... and there are many who have lost with some good teammates..

So he should be dropped from the top 10 based on what happens in his 17th season...where he's well past his prime...and even though he already has 5 rings.

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i don't have him in the top 10 anyways

[QUOTE=jstern]Like somebody else said, someone that shoots 6-24 in a game 7 NBA finals shouldn't be top ten. For the last two years the Kobe stans have slowly put Kobe in the top ten, with constantly referring him as a top ten every where they could. It's very effective. Two years ago Kobe was referred to as a top 15 to 20 players by many unbiased fans who now say he's top ten, mean while during that time he has been sweaped by Dallas, and had those choke jobs in Dallas. He's a 41% career finals shooter, who unlike every other top 10 player doesn't have defining moments where he just stepped it up and put the team un his back. The only Lakers who has done that during Kobe's time is Fisher, hitting clutch shots and Shaq completely stepping it up during the Finals.[/QUOTE]

What an unbelievably retarded post.

Do people like you even think for like 2 seconds before posting? Or do you just kind of type whatever retarded thoughts comes to your mind? I'm betting it's the latter.

So we have some people that say if he doesn't win this year with a so-called stacked team then he isn't a top ten player. Then we have some that say if he does win this year it doesn't mean anything because he has a stacked team. This season is at once the most important season of his career and the least important season of his career.

Could it be that there are some folks here that are just looking for ways that they can discredit him? Could it be that they are trying to clutch onto the legacy of a retired player (Jordan)? Or perhaps are they trying to ensure that the legacy of a young player (Lebron) will exceed Kobe's? Pathetic.

[QUOTE=longtime lurker]Wrong. Kobe is still the emotional leader. He needs to set the tone as far as focus and the personality of this team. Dwight's clown act isn't going to cut it[/QUOTE]

But when Kobe when #6 you will be singing a whole other tune...:rolleyes:

eh, I don't care either way really

you win as a team, you lose as a team

Pshhhh...GTFOH, we're talking about a legend. Gotta love the Kobe haters. I've watched the dude destroy our conference time and time again. Best player of this generation, hands down. It's going to be his 17th season, stop acting like this is prime Kobe or some sh*t.

[QUOTE=Is He Ill]Pshhhh...GTFOH, we're talking about a legend. Gotta love the Kobe haters. I've watched the dude destroy our conference time and time again. Best player of this generation, hands down. It's going to be his 17th season, stop acting like this is prime Kobe or some sh*t.[/QUOTE]
Coming from a Spurs fan
Respect :cheers:

[QUOTE=game3524]Kobe's legacy is set already as a top 7-10 player of all-time.

Anything he does now is just gravy to his resume.[/QUOTE]
This

[QUOTE=Is He Ill]Pshhhh...GTFOH, we're talking about a legend. Gotta love the Kobe haters. I've watched the dude destroy our conference time and time again. Best player of this generation, hands down. It's going to be his 17th season, stop acting like this is prime Kobe or some sh*t.[/QUOTE]
Great post.

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