What Vick did was wrong but he served his time and payed his debt to society.
Also isn't it possible for meat eaters to eat meat that has been killed in a more humane way that is done in slaughter houses?????
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What Vick did was wrong but he served his time and payed his debt to society.
Also isn't it possible for meat eaters to eat meat that has been killed in a more humane way that is done in slaughter houses?????
[QUOTE=HotelManager]How is this any different than stepping on an ant or crushing a spider?[/QUOTE]
the difference between killing a person and an ant is bout the same as between monkey/dog/dolphin/intelligent animals vs not intelligent.
i hate vick.
[QUOTE=MMM]What Vick did was wrong but he served his time and payed his debt to society.
Also isn't it possible for meat eaters to eat meat that has been killed in a more humane way that is done in slaughter houses?????[/QUOTE]
not really. Slaughter houses are what they are, its the only way for a giant civilization to thrive. breed for killing. In tribes / history you will see that people went out and hunted their own meat, never killing more than they need. With reproduction where it is now we would not have been able to keep cows and such alive.. This system gives everyone food that the populace of the animal can afford without extinction. if me and you stop, they wont stop killing because for everyone that stops 10 people grow old enough to want it.
Btw serving time and paying debt to society is a physical thing. He made a choice in his mind and whatever triggered him to make the choice is not gone, so the whole jail and redemption thing is just dumb. A killer doesn't get healed in jail, he just learns how to repress it when hes out (or he doesn't, and kills again). It makes vick no better a man than anyone.
[QUOTE=RazorBaLade]Btw serving time and paying debt to society is a physical thing. He made a choice in his mind and [B]whatever triggered him to make the choice is not gone[/B], so the whole jail and redemption thing is just dumb. A killer doesn't get healed in jail, he just learns how to repress it when hes out (or he doesn't, and kills again). It makes vick no better a man than anyone.[/QUOTE]
You are making a huge assumption and have decided you are a better judge of what is in a man, who you have never met, heart than the countless people who have been in contact with him and say he's changed.
[QUOTE=LJJ]You don't see the difference between killing an animal for a basic necessity and systematically torturing an animal for pure pleasure?
Okay.[/QUOTE]
Word.
These Vegans drive me insane with their broken rationale. They fail to realize that humans are OMNIVORES. Eating meat might be a "luxury" in a developed country, but it certainly isn't in third-world countries. Many countries rely much more on meat than vegetables and fruits for survival.
And what makes eating vegetables and fruits any less of a luxury than eating meat? Hell, salads sure are pricey compared to chicken and beef these days. You wouldn't expect a poor citizen to live beyond their means.
The way I see it, killing an animal for consumption is okay [I][U]as long as its for consumption[/U][/I] and killed as 'humanely' as possible (meaning, a quick relatively painless death as opposed to, for example, some Chinese practices where they would throw a live animal in to boiling water :mad: ). I also believe there are certain animals that shouldn't be used for human consumption (i.e. dogs, cats, dolphins, etc) unless it is completely needed for survival (rare circumstances). My reasoning for that is purely subjective: these animals are not natural prey in their ecosystem (i.e. they are not part of the lower foodchain) and are intelligent species (which in part, is the reason for them not being natural prey).
The only thing that drives me crazier than a preaching vegan is a hick who practices trophy hunting. Humans are really capable of sick and destructive practices.
And before I get attacked, I do not support [I]abusive[/I] and '[I]inhumane[/I]' practices at slaughterhouses under any circumstance. As said before, there are proper methods of killing an animal for use of consumption (don't use that stupid "killing is killing" logic with me... :rolleyes: ).
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[QUOTE=DeronMillsap]^^^If we're going by cleanliness then rats >>>> dogs. Am I right? :lol[/QUOTE]
I guess so, i did not know dogs eate so much shit?...even from cats you say?....:(
This guy never proves me wrong. :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
He Is Back^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[QUOTE=ashbelly][url]http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204166[/url]
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:[/QUOTE]
Like Clockwork, never proves me wrong. :facepalm :facepalm
[QUOTE=ashbelly]Like Clockwork, never proves me wrong. :facepalm :facepalm[/QUOTE]
2 more posts and you have 5.000.........congratulations man.......:applause:
Kobe the gawd [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/dv3md.gif[/IMG]
He should send one of those to Bron.
[IMG]http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/bron.gif[/IMG]
[QUOTE=NoName22]Kobe the gawd [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/dv3md.gif[/IMG]
He should send one of those to Bron.
[IMG]http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/bron.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Too bad kobe wears the same jersey. He's going to jinx himself this time :oldlol:
[QUOTE=ashbelly]Too bad kobe wears the same jersey. He's going to jinx himself this time :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
aww ashbelly is unbanned and the first thing he does is post about kobe
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
:facepalm
They got the phrase, "It's okay to smoke a rat's asssss, but never rub peanut butter on your mother's vaagina" for a reason you know.