Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?
[QUOTE=malek4980]So leading the tournaments in scoring while leading a bad team to medals had nothing to do with it?!
It was the hype[/QUOTE]
Yes it was without question. Those MVPs were not legit IMO. In fact others have had better tournaments with just as bad players around them and had teams do as well or better and never even sniffed an MVP.
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I did see Gallis play and he was amazing! I also saw petrovic in his prime at real madrid and I prefer petrovic,though Gallis could score inside like no other small player i have ever seen, I remember a game against barca , he was magnificent dont get me wrong but I put Petrovic and Sabonis just above.Some people think that its all about the NBA and only assess their performances in the NBA or in Gallis' case he is not even a contender and they dont even know about him just because he didn't play there.
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[QUOTE=la bomba]I did see Gallis play and he was amazing! I also saw petrovic in his prime at real madrid and I prefer petrovic,though Gallis could score inside like no other small player i have ever seen, I remember a game against barca , he was magnificent dont get me wrong but I put Petrovic and Sabonis just above.Some people think that its all about the NBA and only assess their performances in the NBA or in Gallis' case he is not even a contender and they dont even know about him just because he didn't play there.[/QUOTE]
Well I just know that Gallis was better than Sabonis in 87 and 89 you cannot deny that.
Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?
[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]Well I just know that Gallis was better than Sabonis in 87 and 89 you cannot deny that.[/QUOTE]
they are totally different one is a small guard the other a great centre. They were both great.In those events Gallis was better but also more experienced as he was older. Gallis did a lot for european basketball in those years,we owe him a lot no doubt.But there are other great players who perhaps weren't as good but still made the 80s a great time for european basketball. here is a list of players i liked from that time,as I say perhaps not the best but very good players themselves.
Epi
Tarakanov
Kurtinaitis
Khomicius
Sibilio
Corbalan
Martin
Solozabal
Jimenez
Iannakis
Fasoulas
Berkowitz
Gentile
Riva
Magnifico
Villacampa
Paspalj
Kukoc
Radja
perasovic
Meneghin
prelevic
Plus loads more of course.
Unfortunately I say this all the time,for a lot of people in here these guys mean nothing because they didnt play in the NBA.
Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?
He isnt the greatest Euro of all time, but he is my favorite
[IMG]http://www.geocities.com/tzovas/gallery/sabonis_fouls_shaq.jpg[/IMG]
Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?
[QUOTE=KeylessEntry]He isnt the greatest Euro of all time, but he is my favorite
[IMG]http://www.geocities.com/tzovas/gallery/sabonis_fouls_shaq.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
If sabas wasnt the best he was very close!! his passing his long range shooting etc,for a guy 2.20m!! Him and petrovic both played for the team i most hate,no not portland,real madrid,but I have to say they both were two of the greatest,not in europe but in the world full stop.
Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?
[QUOTE=la bomba]they are totally different one is a small guard the other a great centre. They were both great.In those events Gallis was better but also more experienced as he was older. Gallis did a lot for european basketball in those years,we owe him a lot no doubt.But there are other great players who perhaps weren't as good but still made the 80s a great time for european basketball. here is a list of players i liked from that time,as I say perhaps not the best but very good players themselves.
Epi
Tarakanov
Kurtinaitis
Khomicius
Sibilio
Corbalan
Martin
Solozabal
Jimenez
Iannakis
Fasoulas
Berkowitz
Gentile
Riva
Magnifico
Villacampa
Paspalj
Kukoc
Radja
perasovic
Meneghin
prelevic
Plus loads more of course.
Unfortunately I say this all the time,for a lot of people in here these guys mean nothing because they didnt play in the NBA.[/QUOTE]
VOlkov
Slavnik
Myshkin
Dacoury
Brabenek
Valters
Cosic
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEWFNhu3DkU[/url]
Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?
It is very unfair to put Dirk as the Best European Player in NBA History. Drazen Petrovic was a better player to me he died before he really got the chance to make more all NBA teams he came in the league as a 25 year old after dominating Europe. If Petrovic's life wouldn't have ended so early He would have made more all NBA Teams and would have been At least in the same sentence as players like Drexler, Richmond, Marjerle and the other All Star Shooting Guards of that Era. Dirk on the other hand still not better than Petrovic or even Sabonis Dirk has had sucess but he is doing it in an Era where the accessibility to the NBA is better for Euros he is top 3 of alltime and Top of this Decade with Pau Gasol right behind him.
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It amazes me how this thread is full of Americans and none of them even seem to know Galis who was an AMERICAN. It's sad. This guy was unbelievable and they don't even know who he is it seems.
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[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]It amazes me how this thread is full of Americans and none of them even seem to know Galis who was an AMERICAN. It's sad. This guy was unbelievable and they don't even know who he is it seems.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94X7oyzlfeY[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjKjvNVidNw[/url]
a couple of youtube videos to enjoy
Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?
[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]No, Galis was better than Sabonis and Dirk. You must not have seen him play to think otherwise. He single handed beat Soviet Union twice during their peak. He was clearly outplaying Petrovic back in that day as well but Petrovic wasn't in his prime and Galis was.
Even players like Bob McAdoo and Belov said he was the best. McAdoo put him better than Bird or Magic even. And even Drazen's own brother and Drazen himself said Galis was better than Drazen.[/QUOTE]
Could you provide us with a link to these statements by Belov, McAdoo, Drazen and his brother?
Or will you just ignore this post as you always do when called to present a source for your imaginary 'news', 'statements' and 'facts' in all the threads you post?
As for comparing Galis to Sabonis and Petrovic, just LOL :hammerhead:
Sabonis and Petrovic were the best. Nowitzki has not won a single title in his career so he is one step below them. Then a step below them comes Galis and a handful more players.
Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?
The problem with you Americans is that you think that NBA is the only league in the world. And the only one worth mentioning...
Dirk is probably amongst top 5 European players overall, but definitely not the best!
Petrović, Sabonis, Ćosić and probably Kukoč were all better than him.
I belive you all know about Petrović, Sabonis and Kukoč, but you don`t know how well thay played in Europe and in international games.
And Ćosić is a special story. He could have been one of the first European to play in the NBA (or maybe the first), but he rejected the offer from Lakers and returned to Zadar! He totally revolutionized European basketball, especially when talking about big mans.
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[QUOTE=Taras Bulba]Could you provide us with a link to these statements by Belov, McAdoo, Drazen and his brother?
Or will you just ignore this post as you always do when called to present a source for your imaginary 'news', 'statements' and 'facts' in all the threads you post?
As for comparing Galis to Sabonis and Petrovic, just LOL :hammerhead:
Sabonis and Petrovic were the best. Nowitzki has not won a single title in his career so he is one step below them. Then a step below them comes Galis and a handful more players.[/QUOTE]
I don't respond to insults and people that lack basic manners.
Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?
[QUOTE=Lakas Fan Yo]I don't respond to insults and people that lack basic manners.[/QUOTE]
Sure you don't. This way you don't have to actually prove what you are saying. As always.
Wasn't I in your ignore list by the way? How did you read my message and respond? :hammerhead: Totally busted.
Re: Dirk Nowitzki greatest European player in history?
[QUOTE=Taras Bulba]Sure you don't. This way you don't have to actually prove what you are saying. As always.
Wasn't I in your ignore list by the way? How did you read my message and respond? :hammerhead: Totally busted.[/QUOTE]
People quote you, therefore ignore didn't work. So I took you off. And of course as soon as I did you were insulting me. Very mature.