[B]Dirk Nowitzki[/B] was voted the #22 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops.
22.9 PPG | 8.3 RPG | 2.6 APG
NBA Champion
2010-11 NBA Finals MVP
2006-07 NBA Most Valuable Player
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[B]Dirk Nowitzki[/B] was voted the #22 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops.
22.9 PPG | 8.3 RPG | 2.6 APG
NBA Champion
2010-11 NBA Finals MVP
2006-07 NBA Most Valuable Player
11
11. LeBron James
Average age of voter: 13 years old. :lol
David Robinson.
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David Robinson
Pippen.
isiah, jeez cant believe he hasnt been voted in yet.
Mikan
Isiah
Dirk over Drob? Lebron over Moses, West, Oscar and Dr. J already?
:facepalm thread fail since #11
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The one guy from these 3 that hasn't been picked. GEORGE MIKAN
btw, where does everybody see Gervin/Drexler/Wade/Rodman getting voted in? I don't think any of the four have received a single vote yet, but all of them are in my top 30
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my god. it has to be zeke this time
Dirk got underrated again. At least Top 20, IMO.
Isiah Thomas.
Mikan
Wow, at Dirk over D-Rob. Robinson was just flat out a better player in every way except shooting.
Over Isiah is even worse. I guess people ding him for his efficieny and the fact that he played on a stacked team, even though if you anything about the Bad Boys, you know Isiah was clearly the leader of that team. It's crazy how Dirk climbed about 20-30 places higher because of one run to the championship. Great player, but come on.
My vote is Isiah.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Dirk got underrated again. At least Top 20, IMO.[/QUOTE]
really? who in the top 20 should he be ahead of?
George Mikan.
Isiah's time for votes will come soon, but he doesn't deserve to be ahead of George Mikan.
George Mikan
[QUOTE=WillC]George Mikan.
Isiah's time for votes will come soon, but he doesn't deserve to be ahead of George Mikan.[/QUOTE]
Mikan for 23
Isiah and D-Rob to round up the top 25
zeke
Dwyane Wade
[QUOTE=MasterDurant24]Wow, at Dirk over D-Rob. Robinson was just flat out a better player in every way except shooting. [/QUOTE]
Robinson led his team to the playoffs eight times in a row between 1989 and 1997, but they could not even get out of the Western Conference without Duncan.
Dirk led his team to the finals twice, and had a historic run in 2011, in which he dismantled a team of superstars.
My vote: Isiah Thomas
[QUOTE=fpliii]Isiah[/QUOTE]
this
You put 90-96 drob and 06-12 Dirk in the same league no way in hell is Dirk considered the better player. Drob was waaaay more respected at the time than it seems people accept. an awful lot of people had him over Hakeem, Shaq, Malone, and Barkley types who are already on the list.
That said...I find it unlikely that Pettit and Dirk are in the same league with people saying Dirk is worse. And nobody seems too outraged he went over dirk so.....**** it. All these guys are pretty close at this point.
Mikan
[QUOTE=Heavincent]Pippen.[/QUOTE]
:biggums:
George Mikan, because there would be no bigger disgrace than to know that the minds behind ISH believe the man whose dominant play originally put basketball on the map isn't a Top 25 player of All-Time.
Mikan
:facepalm
Isiah is not better than the Admiral. At no point was he even the best at his position, and the dude has a career PER of 18.1, offensive rating of 105.In 1990 the year Isiah won finals MVP he finished 4th in Total Win Shares on his team behind Laimbeer, Dumars, and Rodman. In fact he finished 4th in win shares in 1989 as well.That is nothing special in the slightest.
[QUOTE=longhornfan1234]:facepalm
Isiah is not better than the Admiral. At no point was he even the best at his position, and the dude has a career PER of 18.1, offensive rating of 105.In 1990 the year Isiah won finals MVP he finished 4th in Total Win Shares on his team behind Laimbeer, Dumars, and Rodman. In fact he finished 4th in win shares in 1989 as well.That is nothing special in the slightest.[/QUOTE]
I agree Robinson was a better player than Isiah, and should be ranked ahead of him (and typically is). However, using metrics like PER, offensive rating, and win shares is a disingenuous way to illustrate it.
Using PER or win shares especially should be banned from usage in compiling these All Time lists. The greats that we assess and contrast are greats for a reason - they have plenty of accomplishments and accolades and don't need a synthesized metric system to bolster their value.
Matt Geiger.
Seriously LeBron at #11 has turned this poll into more of a joke than it normally is. :facepalm
:kobe:
George Mikan
Once again. Isiah gets shafted in the all time rankings. No way he should be out of the top 20 and no way he's not better than Dirk.
[QUOTE=longhornfan1234]:facepalm
Isiah is not better than the Admiral. At no point was he even the best at his position, and the dude has a career PER of 18.1, offensive rating of 105.In 1990 the year Isiah won finals MVP he finished 4th in Total Win Shares on his team behind Laimbeer, Dumars, and Rodman. In fact he finished 4th in win shares in 1989 as well.That is nothing special in the slightest.[/QUOTE]
what are win shares?
and what is offensive rating?
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7BmIVHdl3o&feature=plcp"]Isiah Frikkin Thomas, the greatest little man[/URL]
[QUOTE=longhornfan1234]Isiah is not better than the Admiral. At no point was he even the best at his position, and the dude has a career PER of 18.1, offensive rating of 105.In 1990 the year Isiah won finals MVP he finished 4th in Total Win Shares on his team behind Laimbeer, Dumars, and Rodman. In fact he finished 4th in win shares in 1989 as well.That is nothing special in the slightest.[/QUOTE]
He played the same time as Magic, of course he won't be the best at that position during that time. And regarding the advanced stats, stats don't tell the whole story, and relying on advanced stats like win shares and Ortg sure isn't a good way to go about. I have no problem with David being higher than Zeke though :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=Optimus Prime]Matt Geiger.
Seriously LeBron at #11 has turned this poll into more of a joke than it normally is. :facepalm
:kobe:[/QUOTE]
Maybe if you keep bitching about it in each new thread it'll change.
[QUOTE=chips93]what are win shares?
and what is offensive rating?[/QUOTE]
win shares are useless
offensive rating isn't bad, but you have to look at team ORtg (individual doesn't tell you anything) for the hub of the offense (almost always a PG); same with defensive rating...similarly, if you look at team DRtg for an anchor (center more often than not) it'll tell you a lot about his contributions