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Off Season Moves.
Ok people now that the draft is over and we know where we stand. What moves do you think need to be made for this team to be competitive next season.
We have an abundance of guards. I think we should move either critt, or lowry. Walker might now want to playe here. So I think we can probably package them together for something. Like maybe to portland for channing frye and webster. Who knows but we need to make a move. Here is my list of players that I think we should lok into getting. Most are threes then there are a few bigs.
Ira Newble, James Jones, And Kareem Rush. I think these guys are all free agents so we could make an offer for them.
Joey Grahm, Martel Webster, Shawne Williams, Thadeous Young, Quinton Ross, C.J. Miles, Jarvis Hayes, Desmond Mason, and Canning Frye. We would have to make a trade to get any of these plaers.
I think if we can two of the players on these list that they will bring a competitive edge to the team next season.
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I definitly wouldn't mind having Kareem Rush on the team. I've been a fan of his for a while now and I think he would bring something nice to Memphis.
Making an offer for Frye would be nice, but how's his defense? We really need to look in to getting a solid, defensive big man. We've lost Collins, who was somewhat a good defensive presence, we need to fill that gap with a better defensive player.
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Frye is like 6'11'' a shot blocker with great athleticism. He is not as bit gweight wise like collins was. But he runs the floor great and can finish at both ends. Would fit well with our uptempo style.
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I think Frye would be a nice addition, given his frame and that he can run the floor. But, like I said before, we still need to get some defense in the post.
What's Marc Gasol like defensively? Is he smart, strong, agile or is he just going to be a big body down low?
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Newble or Jones would be nice. Also Rush. Frye, I don't like him so much, but he would be an upgrade over Hakim in the sense he is a true PF. His defense is not really good.
Smart and strong are good words to define Marc's defense. He is slow, though, so he will suffer against PFs that play at C.
Edit: Joey Graham? no, thanks. He would be just a bench warmer like Cardinal. No way.
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[QUOTE=berraco]Newble or Jones would be nice. Also Rush. Frye, I don't like him so much, but he would be an upgrade over Hakim in the sense he is a true PF. His defense is not really good.
Smart and strong are good words to define Marc's defense. He is slow, though, so he will suffer against PFs that play at C.
Edit: Joey Graham? no, thanks. He would be just a bench warmer like Cardinal. No way.[/QUOTE]
I think grahm would be an upgrade from cardinal. He is more athletic and stronger. He can play off the dribble better. I mean he isnt that good BUT anything is better then cardinal.
Marc is more of a defensive banger. He will be able to fill up the middle. His offense will be the biggest question.
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Apparently bostanch nachbar is available. Not sure if spelling is right. But he is an unrestricted free agent. He could back up rudy.
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Having taken a few days to digest the main part of the big trade Majo and Miller for Love, I'm thinking they are going to come out ahead on this deal.
I live in LA and have seen quite a few games with both Majo and Love. I'm really worried that Love is going to be nothing more than a servicable big. I cant see him being a top tier big due to his lack of size and lack of athleticism. I see him really struggling on the defensive end. He might turn into a pretty good offensive player although he might be limited what he can do in the post in the NBA. So in my opinion, they traded a bust for a potential all star.
Losing Mike Miller actually makes sense if they believe Majo is going to be able to start right away and become an impact SG. He isn't the pure shooter Miller is, but he is a scorer with great atheltisism and can do everything else Miller does better.
Taking a good look at the contracts that were swapped they again came out ahead as Walker has a TEAM option after the season, so he is basicly a 10 mil expirer. Not only could they shed his salary next season, but he could be a trade chip at the trade deadline.
Basicly they traded Millers $9 mil salary, Collins $6 mil expirer, and Cardinals bad 2 year deal avg $6.5 per for Walkers $10 mil expirer, and Jarics not so great 3 year deal avg $7 mil per.
That means they will only have about $25.5 mil commited to next season and includeds Marc Gasol and Majo.
Things are getting interesting in Memphis!
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[QUOTE=jailer]Apparently bostanch nachbar is available. Not sure if spelling is right. But he is an unrestricted free agent. He could back up rudy.[/QUOTE]
I like him, really.
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I think we should make an offer on a decent big man, possibly Frye, Blount or another big man who could come in and fill a role. We're obviously not going to get a star level big man, so we should go for a player who can fill a role. I think using Lowry or Crittenton along with Walker or Buckner could get us something respectable.
How much cap room do we have? I think we should still have enough to sign a decent SF to play backup. Nothing great, but atleast an improvement over Cardinal.
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[QUOTE=Kebab Stall]
How much cap room do we have? I think we should still have enough to sign a decent SF to play backup. Nothing great, but atleast an improvement over Cardinal.[/QUOTE]
We already have 42 M$ in salaries this year (including Damon's buy out). Plus Gasol, Mayo and Arthur, that would put us in around 50 (3.5 +3.5 + 1). Salary cap for next season has not been announced yet, but I think it will be around 57-58 M$ after the 55 M$ of last season. So we are around 7 millions below the cap and have three spots open in the roster (we have 9 players under contract + the 3 rookies).
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Yeah but I think wallace has basicly sadi that they wont look at the free agent market to much this year. He wants to hit it up next year when we have more cash.
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[QUOTE=jailer]Yeah but I think wallace has basicly sadi that they wont look at the free agent market to much this year. He wants to hit it up next year when we have more cash.[/QUOTE]
Right, having around 12 players is enough for this roster. We can fill the other spots with 1 year contracts and live with that. Next year Walker's contract will be finished plus Damon's buyout, which gives us around 15M$ more. That will be the moment to look into the free agency.
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We should have around 14-15 million next year if we dont use anymore this season. I think we would of had like 18-19 before the trade. I like nachbar though. I think he could really be a stud here. He is like 6'9'' and can flat out shoot the three.
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If Wallace isn't planning on signing anyone (which is a really dumb move by him, but I'm not at all surprised at this point), then he should definitly look into making a trade.
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[QUOTE=Kebab Stall]If Wallace isn't planning on signing anyone (which is a really dumb move by him, but I'm not at all surprised at this point), then he should definitly look into making a trade.[/QUOTE]
Yeah a trade is going to happen. He already said that they would address their needs in the offseason by making trades. I just wouldn expect to sign anyone. Even though brandon rush and nachbar are both unrestricted free agents. Both are only 27 and would fit well here.
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i think you guys might lose one of your point guards of course with the exception of conley jr. Pat riley seems to like lowry i assume it will be a trade i just hope that you guys wont get a bad contract in return .
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[QUOTE=veilside23]i think you guys might lose one of your point guards of course with the exception of conley jr. Pat riley seems to like lowry i assume it will be a trade i just hope that you guys wont get a bad contract in return .[/QUOTE]
I wouldnt mind trading lowry for cook and some cash. Then you could have coo back up rudy. Plus conley and cook are old teammates from ohio state.
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Cook is a guard, I doubt he would play behind Rudy. He possibly could, if we put out a small line up.
If we Riley is interested in Lowry, we could through in Antoine Walker and get Deaquan Cook and Mark Blount in return. The contracts matchup and we get a backup SG to play behind Mayo in Cook and we get a nice player in Blount who can play the 4/5.
Thoughts on that trade idea?
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[QUOTE=Kebab Stall]Cook is a guard, I doubt he would play behind Rudy. He possibly could, if we put out a small line up.
If we Riley is interested in Lowry, we could through in Antoine Walker and get Deaquan Cook and Mark Blount in return. The contracts matchup and we get a backup SG to play behind Mayo in Cook and we get a nice player in Blount who can play the 4/5.
Thoughts on that trade idea?[/QUOTE]
Yeah thats my bad. I meant that cook could be a good back up for mayo.
As for walker in mimi. I dont think that would work. Walker and riley had alot of problems when he was there. Which is one of the reasons he was traded off that team.
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I doubt any team would want Walker, all he does is shoot a ridiculous amount of 3's and then shimmy back up the court whilst the man he's suppose to be defending scores an open layup.
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I think the trade is not good for Memphis also. We need to get back a SF and a PF/C, not another guard.
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[QUOTE=berraco]I think the trade is not good for Memphis also. We need to get back a SF and a PF/C, not another guard.[/QUOTE]
Whilst SF/PF/C are our priorities, we still need a decent backup for the SG spot. Mayo will, most likely be starting and, as it stands, Buckner will be the backup. That's not good enough. We would also get Blount in the trade which deepens are bench at the PF/C spot.
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[QUOTE=Kebab Stall]Whilst SF/PF/C are our priorities, we still need a decent backup for the SG spot. Mayo will, most likely be starting and, as it stands, Buckner will be the backup. That's not good enough. We would also get Blount in the trade which deepens are bench at the PF/C spot.[/QUOTE]
Critt and/or Jaric can fill the spot at any point in time. Mayo will be playing 30+ minutes, Buckner will play more than 10 if we really want the defense to be consistent, there are no much minutes left, I think. I'm more worried about Gay having no backup and our big men with unknown or low scoring ability.
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There isn't much available in terms of a decent low post big man. I thought Blount would be a nice addition, nothing fancy, but would definitly be a nice pick up.
Trading away Walker will be hard, so I guess either Lowry or Crittenton would have to be the centre piece of the trade with Walker being there just to make up the numbers.
David Lee, possibly? He would add depth to the PF spot and could play the 3, if we put out a big line up.
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[QUOTE=Kebab Stall]There isn't much available in terms of a decent low post big man. I thought Blount would be a nice addition, nothing fancy, but would definitly be a nice pick up.
Trading away Walker will be hard, so I guess either Lowry or Crittenton would have to be the centre piece of the trade with Walker being there just to make up the numbers.
David Lee, possibly? He would add depth to the PF spot and could play the 3, if we put out a big line up.[/QUOTE]
I like Lee. Problem is the Knicks are shopping him around and probably will get something bettern than Kyle in return, although they are desperately looking for a PG and Lowry would fit perfectly in D'Antoni's style. I will push for him just in case. I doubt he can play the 3 though, but we would have Hakim to back up Rudy.
EDIT: I would like us to go after Paul Millsap. I don't know what Utah would ask for him, but I love the guy.
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[QUOTE=berraco]I like Lee. Problem is the Knicks are shopping him around and probably will get something bettern than Kyle in return, although they are desperately looking for a PG and Lowry would fit perfectly in D'Antoni's style. I will push for him just in case. I doubt he can play the 3 though, but we would have Hakim to back up Rudy.
EDIT: I would like us to go after Paul Millsap. I don't know what Utah would ask for him, but I love the guy.[/QUOTE]
Actually I was just reading on nba.com and dantoni is trying to trade lee. And if mentioned trying to get s good point guard possibly from memphis. He mentioned trying to trade for loery or conley.
We could package a deal of lowry and warrik and maybe get back lee and another player. Maybe quentin richardson or jared jeffries. I wouldnt mind that trade we would get a back up for rudy in richardson and a starting power forward in david lee.
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[QUOTE=jailer]Actually I was just reading on nba.com and dantoni is trying to trade lee. And if mentioned trying to get s good point guard possibly from memphis. He mentioned trying to trade for loery or conley.
We could package a deal of lowry and warrik and maybe get back lee and another player. Maybe quentin richardson or jared jeffries. I wouldnt mind that trade we would get a back up for rudy in richardson and a starting power forward in david lee.[/QUOTE]
Q-Rich has a bad contract for us if we want to keep the most of our cap room for next summer. I would try a package of Lowry/Warrick for Lee/Wilson Chandler. Both teams win, IMO.
New York gets the PG they need and a good SF/PF for the run&gun in Hakim. We get the PF we need and a good back up for Rudy, specially in the defensive end. thoughts?
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I haven't seen much of Wilson Chandler to make a fair assessment, but wasn't the player who started to have some really good games near the end of the season?
Anyway, I think Lee would be a good fit for the team. He brings rebounding, hustle and toughness with him, something we lack and would also be a good player to have on the team, with Arthur playing behind him. We give up Warrick in the process, who has shown some very good signs, but I think Lee is what we need.
We also get a backup for Rudy in Chandler. Who, from my understanding, is nice young player.
Giving up Lowry isn't much of a concern. We would still have Conley and Crittenton, with Jaric who can provide some veteran experience. Seems like a decent trade all around.
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I said q-rich because of the fact that he has a bad contract. NY would be more inclined to trade lee if they can drop a bad contract. I dont think they would trade wilson because he was their first round pick last year. They might but I highly doubt it.
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[QUOTE=jailer]I said q-rich because of the fact that he has a bad contract. NY would be more inclined to trade lee if they can drop a bad contract. I dont think they would trade wilson because he was their first round pick last year. They might but I highly doubt it.[/QUOTE]
I know but still the deal was fair, IMO. All are basically unproven players.
Anyway, it seems NY will get Duhon in the free agency, so it is less likely they will ask us about Lowry.
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hello guys.. here i am again your friendly neighbor :) just want to let you know about this news
[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/marty_burns/07/01/gasol/[/url]
[QUOTE]Marc Gasol, the younger brother of Lakers center Pau Gasol, has agreed to a three-year deal worth $10 million, according to a league source. The contract has yet to be signed, but was said to be near completion.
Gasol, 23, is considered one of the top players in Europe. Last year the 7-foot-1 center was named MVP of the Spanish League after averaging 16.2 points and 8.3 rebounds per game for Akasvayu Girona. He could join with 7-foot Darko Milicic to give the Grizzlies one of the taller frontcourts in the NBA.[/QUOTE]
congrats :party:
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[QUOTE=veilside23]hello guys.. here i am again your friendly neighbor :) just want to let you know about this news
[url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/marty_burns/07/01/gasol/[/url]
congrats :party:[/QUOTE]
Yeah that was reported in mem a week ago. I think the deal is only 9 million but it might be ten. Its not official until he signs. Which I THINK can happen on the 11th.
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Oh yeah also walker and jaric and probably buckner all came in today for their physicals. Maybe they will hold a press confrence. If not then that will be an indication if these players will be traded or not,
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[QUOTE=jailer]Oh yeah also walker and jaric and probably buckner all came in today for their physicals. Maybe they will hold a press confrence. If not then that will be an indication if these players will be traded or not,[/QUOTE]
Do they usually hold press conferences for the 'average joe' player when he gets traded?
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they do sometimes. Like marcus banks got one. when he went phx and millic did last year here in mem.
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If they do get one, hopefully 'Toine busts out a shimmy.
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[QUOTE=Kebab Stall]If they do get one, hopefully 'Toine busts out a shimmy.[/QUOTE]
:rockon:
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I mean if all of these guys come here. I really like our odds. Im not saying playoffs. Im just saying that all of the guys coming in are better then the ones leaving. With exception of miller. But we got deeper through this trade. We got worst contracts in return. But we have the money so it dosent hurt that bad. Plus we now have more oom for trades. The grizz could easily win 30 games this year. Maybe 35 if they gel right. Then next season we get another good pick and a good free agent. And I think were right there in the playoff hunt.
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[QUOTE=jailer]I mean if all of these guys come here. I really like our odds. Im not saying playoffs. Im just saying that all of the guys coming in are better then the ones leaving. With exception of miller. But we got deeper through this trade. We got worst contracts in return. But we have the money so it dosent hurt that bad. Plus we now have more oom for trades. The grizz could easily win 30 games this year. Maybe 35 if they gel right. Then next season we get another good pick and a good free agent. And I think were right there in the playoff hunt.[/QUOTE]
That could be the path having a good coach. Let's see what iavaroni can do. I don't expect even 30 wins, because i don't want to be disappointed again. Last year we had a team that could have win 35 with a good coach and look to what happened.