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Shepseskaf 01-09-2013 08:32 AM

Re: Harden > Kobe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiegel
Harden has pretty much destroyed every big name wing defender this season.

Not true. He's had trouble with other long, athletic perimeter defenders like Batum and Iggy.

Vertical-24 01-09-2013 08:35 AM

Re: Harden > Kobe
 
Overreaction thread. Kobe is and will remain better than Harden this season and possibly next (I said possibly...Harden does have youth on his side). Kobe was clearly the better player their last meeting....yet you guys don't care. Kobe has had the better individual season hands down. Team success? Harden for sure. L.A. is struggling as a whole. We have one of the best offenses in the league, and among the very worst defense in the league. And while Dwight and Pau are out, Kobe will just be playing with Nash/Artest and a bunch of D-Leaguers.

Kobe is the best SG in the league and anyone who actually watches Basketball knows this. Don't be a f*ckboy :facepalm

DCL 01-09-2013 08:43 AM

Re: Harden > Kobe
 
kobe stans are running out of excuses. their boy's just can't do it like they want him to. he's only producing some worthless garbage stats this season while missing out on the biggest stat that matters: the W. it's just like the old days again...

Vertical-24 01-09-2013 08:49 AM

Re: Harden > Kobe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DCL
kobe stans are running out of excuses. their boy's just can't do it like they want him to. he's only producing some worthless garbage stats this season while missing out on the biggest stat that matters: the W. it's just like the old days again...


So in 87 when MJ was putting up 37 5 5 , were those garbage stats because his team was .488? Below .500? Team success is in the hands of the TEAM. No matter who your teammates are, no matter what the circumstance may be...its a team game and team success is reliant on team cooperation/responsibility. Don't be a dufus :facepalm

pnyozzzoo 01-09-2013 08:58 AM

Re: Harden > Kobe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vertical-24
So in 87 when MJ was putting up 37 5 5 , were those garbage stats because his team was .488? Below .500? Team success is in the hands of the TEAM. No matter who your teammates are, no matter what the circumstance may be...its a team game and team success is reliant on team cooperation/responsibility. Don't be a dufus :facepalm

But why after playing in the league for 17 years when you have an HoF squad, do you not want to play smart ball. Shooting 40 times a game while leave your HOF teammates high and dry, not play a lick of defense and expect others to cover all your mistakes...

MJ did those in the 80s coz he knows his team had no chance of winning its all stats padding and fame gathering first. Kobe did this with Smush parker era people have no problem. But now?

STATUTORY 01-09-2013 09:03 AM

Re: Harden > Kobe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnyozzzoo
But why after playing in the league for 17 years when you have an HoF squad, do you not want to play smart ball. Shooting 40 times a game while leave your HOF teammates high and dry, not play a lick of defense and expect others to cover all your mistakes...

MJ did those in the 80s coz he knows his team had no chance of winning its all stats padding and fame gathering first. Kobe did this with Smush parker era people have no problem. But now?


shot only 22 times yesterday... lakers lost by 12

Bigsmoke 01-09-2013 09:04 AM

Re: Harden > Kobe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StateOfMind12
Obviously, anyone who isn't a Kobe stan knows this.

#BallSoHarden is a top 5 player in the league.


lol u were just shitting on Harden before the season started. :confusedshrug:

chains5000 01-09-2013 09:12 AM

Re: Harden > Kobe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by STATUTORY
shot only 22 times yesterday... lakers lost by 12

20 points on 22 shots! #gawdbe

tazb 01-09-2013 09:33 AM

Re: Harden > Kobe
 
Harden's been better since 2010...How are you with a team of 4 HOFs and a record of 15-19? smh

spiegel 01-09-2013 10:07 AM

Re: Harden > Kobe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shepseskaf
Not true. He's had trouble with other long, athletic perimeter defenders like Batum and Iggy.

Iggy yes. Batum not so much. Iggy can stay with him off the dribble Batum cant. Iggy gave him some fits, but that was the sametime he was going through an adjustment period where he was getting used to teams throwing all their defensive sets at him. Tony Allen gave him fits as well in their first meeting at that time, but Harden tore him in the next bout during his current streak.

He has clearly adjusted now to teams zeroing on him.

BoutPractice 01-09-2013 10:10 AM

Re: Harden > Kobe
 
The fact that we're even having this conversation shows just how incredible Harden has been this season. Talk about a breakout year...

Doranku 01-09-2013 10:14 AM

Re: Harden > Kobe
 
Harden is completely manufactured by the refs. Dude would be a homeless man's Jamal Crawford without the refs bailing him out on all of his out of control drives. He wasn't getting those superstar calls in the finals last year. What happened then? :roll:

Kobe >>>>>>>>>>>> Harden
Wade >>>>>>>>>>>> Harden
Eric Gordon >>>>>>>>>> Harden

millwad 01-09-2013 10:19 AM

Re: Harden > Kobe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doranku
Harden is completely manufactured by the refs. Dude would be a homeless man's Jamal Crawford without the refs bailing him out on all of his out of control drives. He wasn't getting those superstar calls in the finals last year. What happened then? :roll:

Kobe >>>>>>>>>>>> Harden
Wade >>>>>>>>>>>> Harden
Eric Gordon >>>>>>>>>> Harden


Butthurt.

Bigsmoke 01-09-2013 10:21 AM

Re: Harden > Kobe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tazb
Harden's been better since 2010...How are you with a team of 4 HOFs and a record of 15-19? smh


Nash missed a lot of games and is old, Gasol old, Dwight is hurt.

the Lakers would be even worse with James Harden.

niko 01-09-2013 10:23 AM

Re: Harden > Kobe
 
It's not comparable. Kobe plays under enormous pressure, Harden is playing under essentially none. Kobe will be declared an enormous failure this year if things continue like this, Harden doesn't even need to make the playoffs. If Harden has a particularly bad game, he doesn't address the media that day and just leaves. It's not comparable at all. If you put Kobe in a situation and said "no pressure, if you lose it's ok, just put up numbers" what would he do? We've seen it before.


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