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starface 12-15-2008 02:32 AM

Clippers 2-13 before Zach became a starter, 4-5 since
 
So what can we get for Kaman?

ihatetimthomas 12-15-2008 11:51 AM

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Kaman's stock is at an all-time low. So whoever you deal for will be of less value than what Kaman provides. I heard rumors flying around for Rip whcih would be pretty nice for the Clipps but I dont know how much truth there is in that. Def. if Kaman is dealt, a shooting guard needs to come in return. I though Jrich might have been an option, but he was traded.

But Gordon has been playing very well, and any acquisition of a shooting guard would stunt his development. I say let the trade offers come to the Clippers. Let it be known that he is availible, but dont actively shop him. When you actively shop a guy, you are going to get the least amount of value for him. Kaman is a very skilled center, they shoudnt make a deal just to make a deal

adiedanny 12-15-2008 06:13 PM

Re: Clippers 2-13 before Zach became a starter, 4-4 since
 
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Originally Posted by ihatetimthomas
Kaman's stock is at an all-time low. So whoever you deal for will be of less value than what Kaman provides. I heard rumors flying around for Rip whcih would be pretty nice for the Clipps but I dont know how much truth there is in that. Def. if Kaman is dealt, a shooting guard needs to come in return. I though Jrich might have been an option, but he was traded.

But Gordon has been playing very well, and any acquisition of a shooting guard would stunt his development. I say let the trade offers come to the Clippers. Let it be known that he is availible, but dont actively shop him. When you actively shop a guy, you are going to get the least amount of value for him. Kaman is a very skilled center, they shoudnt make a deal just to make a deal

Where did you here that rumor regarding Hamilton? I would take it but I agrre with you about Gordon. Didn't Hamilton just sign an extension? I read that Redd is on the trading block and I would take that in heart beat.

ihatetimthomas 12-15-2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by adiedanny
Where did you here that rumor regarding Hamilton? I would take it but I agrre with you about Gordon. Didn't Hamilton just sign an extension? I read that Redd is on the trading block and I would take that in heart beat.


Dont have the link, but I know I readit some place. The Bucks have Bogut though, why would they want Kaman?

ZeN 12-15-2008 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ihatetimthomas
Dont have the link, but I know I readit some place. The Bucks have Bogut though, why would they want Kaman?


3 team deal? :D

qrich 12-15-2008 09:23 PM

Re: Clippers 2-13 before Zach became a starter, 4-4 since
 
Kaman + Hart + Ricky + Rights to Sofoklis + 2nd rounder to Sacramento for Brad Miller + John Salmons.

Hart is bought out and returns to the Clippers.

Kaman + Ricky Davis + Rights to Sofoklis to Minnesota for Mike Miller, Craig Smith + rights to Nikola Pekovic

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Originally Posted by ihatetimthomas
Dont have the link, but I know I readit some place. The Bucks have Bogut though, why would they want Kaman?


I see no reason to why a Kaman/Bogut front court won't work. Kaman can play the high post, Bogut in the low.

ihatetimthomas 12-15-2008 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by qrich



I see no reason to why a Kaman/Bogut front court won't work. Kaman can play the high post, Bogut in the low.


But does it make the Bucks better than if they had Redd? I dont know, both Bogut and Kaman need to be in the paint, more near the rim to be effective. I dont see how Bucks get any better with this deal. I think they are better off keeping Redd

ZeN 12-16-2008 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by qrich
Kaman + Hart + Ricky + Rights to Sofoklis + 2nd rounder to Sacramento for Brad Miller + John Salmons.

Hart is bought out and returns to the Clippers.

Kaman + Ricky Davis + Rights to Sofoklis to Minnesota for Mike Miller, Craig Smith + rights to Nikola Pekovic



I see no reason to why a Kaman/Bogut front court won't work. Kaman can play the high post, Bogut in the low.



I would looove that..

Finally Miller would be able to get some decents shots, and have a group of guys that can support his game. Plus, I prefer to have him as the designated 3pt shooter, rather than NOvack... seeing as how Mike can do more than just shoot 3's...

ihatetimthomas 12-16-2008 12:39 PM

Re: Clippers 2-13 before Zach became a starter, 4-4 since
 
Had the Wolves been smart and just kept OJ Mayo, then a deal for Miller and Kaman would look very plausible. But I dont see it happening bc Mchale is in love with love (no pun intended) and it would be a huge detriment to his developement. A Kaman/AlJeff/Mayo trio would be very nice for the Wolves

Qlippers 12-16-2008 12:59 PM

Re: Clippers 2-13 before Zach became a starter, 4-4 since
 
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Originally Posted by ihatetimthomas
Had the Wolves been smart and just kept OJ Mayo, then a deal for Miller and Kaman would look very plausible. But I dont see it happening bc Mchale is in love with love (no pun intended) and it would be a huge detriment to his developement. A Kaman/AlJeff/Mayo trio would be very nice for the Wolves

How about Kaman for Mayo and anyone else or Kaman for Marion? Since we need a big perimeter defender

ihatetimthomas 12-16-2008 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Qlippers
How about Kaman for Mayo and anyone else or Kaman for Marion? Since we need a big perimeter defender


Kaman for Mayo? I think you meant someone else. Kaman for marion wouldnt be horrible but Al plays the same position and its not like Marion is a great perimeter defender

qrich 12-16-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Qlippers
How about Kaman for Mayo and anyone else or Kaman for Marion? Since we need a big perimeter defender


No way will we get Mayo, and with Darko/Hammidi[sp?]/Marc, Grizzles wouldn't want Kaman. Marion, no thanks. Dude is garbage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihatetimthomas
Had the Wolves been smart and just kept OJ Mayo, then a deal for Miller and Kaman would look very plausible. But I dont see it happening bc Mchale is in love with love (no pun intended) and it would be a huge detriment to his developement. A Kaman/AlJeff/Mayo trio would be very nice for the Wolves


I get what your saying, but I still believe the Wolves would be goo-goo-ga-ga over a Jefferson/Kaman front court.

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Originally Posted by ihatetimthomas
But does it make the Bucks better than if they had Redd? I dont know, both Bogut and Kaman need to be in the paint, more near the rim to be effective. I dont see how Bucks get any better with this deal. I think they are better off keeping Redd


Strict salary cutting move would be my guess. Redd doesn't deserve the salary he is making, and since looking at how huge it is, I don't think I'd even do it myself because we'd need to add 5-6 mil or so to get Mike.

ihatetimthomas 12-16-2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stiff #1
Randolph has always been underrated. I've always said he was unquestionably top 5 offensively at his position. They use the "teams never won with him" excuse, but now they can't.


I guess going 4-4 on a 6-17 team counts as "winning". lol, people will still use "teams never won with him" because its still true. A 2 game winning streak doesnt change that.


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