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nesgodawg 02-11-2009 06:47 PM

Hornets to Seattle?
 
www.ihateclay.com has the links and info to the story.

Would you trade your Thunder back to Seattle to get the Hornets?

ThunderCover 02-11-2009 09:32 PM

Re: Hornets to Seattle?
 
No.

Seattle doesn't have an NBA quality arena and lost their team rather than do anything about it. They don't deserve another team.

The NBA will not allow Seattle to steal New Orlean's team.

nesgodawg 02-11-2009 11:25 PM

Re: Hornets to Seattle?
 
Seattle legislature is working on getting funding, don't you worry about that.

And it wouldn't be stealing if the team was no longer economically feasible in NO now would it?

Buffalobraves 02-12-2009 12:40 PM

Re: Hornets to Seattle?
 
I don't understand why you needed to post this here.

This team has left Seattle. I wish all the best to Seattle finding a new team.

tedloc 02-12-2009 03:58 PM

Re: Hornets to Seattle?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCover
No.


The NBA will not allow Seattle to steal New Orlean's team.



kind of like how it allowed gay bennet to steal seattle's team???????

seattle will get another team and the thunder will suck for all eternity

BOOM :hammertime:

nesgodawg 02-12-2009 04:18 PM

Re: Hornets to Seattle?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tedloc
kind of like how it allowed gay bennet to steal seattle's team???????

seattle will get another team and the thunder will suck for all eternity

BOOM :hammertime:


You know Okie logic isn't that great... Just like how they swear up and down that Durant still doesn't own a house in Seattle.

Guess the Seattle PI proved them wrong again.

www.ihateclay.com

ThunderCover 02-13-2009 07:32 PM

Re: Hornets to Seattle?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nesgodawg
Seattle legislature is working on getting funding, don't you worry about that.

And it wouldn't be stealing if the team was no longer economically feasible in NO now would it?


It was the Sonics that were no longer economically feasible in Seattle and Seattle was unwilling to address it, hypocrite.

Seattle doesn't deserve another team.

tedloc 02-14-2009 01:10 PM

Re: Hornets to Seattle?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCover
It was the Sonics that were no longer economically feasible in Seattle and Seattle was unwilling to address it, hypocrite.

Seattle doesn't deserve another team.


firstly the team was bought under false pre-tenses...
gutted so that it would lose as much money as possible...
soley for the purpose of relocation...

it is hypocritical for sonics fans wanting to steal someone elses team...

it really is too bad clay couldn't of waited and just bought the hornets
instead of messing up all the history and divisions that were in place.

ThunderCover 02-14-2009 02:22 PM

Re: Hornets to Seattle?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tedloc
firstly the team was bought under false pre-tenses...
gutted so that it would lose as much money as possible...
soley for the purpose of relocation....


There was a side letter signed and made public the day the PBC bought the team that said the team would move if a taxpayer subsidized arena wasn't agreed to within one year. There was nothing false about the pretenses...

The Sonics lost money every year for the last decade that they were in Seattle including the year they made the playoffs...

Quote:

Monday, May 15, 2006

By MIKE LEWIS AND PHUONG CAT LE
P-I REPORTERS

It's a race the Sonics are losing, at least according to numbers disclosed by the team. (Pro teams closely guard their finances even when asking the public to spend millions.) In 2004-05, the team had the sixth-best record in the NBA and a payroll below the league average. The result?

"We still were nowhere close to breaking even," said Sonics President Wally Walker.

Outmoded from the start

When it was built, the Key was bigger than the 14,500-seat Seattle Center Coliseum it replaced. But when it opened in 1995, it was already "behind" by NBA definitions.

Built for $104 million and designed to accommodate 17,000 seats, it had a smaller capacity than other arenas being built at the time: The $260 million Rose Garden in Portland, privately financed by Allen, could seat 21,300, and General Motors Place in Vancouver, B.C. (Grizzlies), could seat 20,000. KeyArena ranked 20th out of 27 NBA arenas, and had 3,000 fewer seats than the NBA average at that time.

According to the mayor's task force on KeyArena, the facility ranks 17th out of 18 NBA-only arenas in both the potential maximum money the stadium can make and the actual revenue it earns from premium seating, such as courtside seats and luxury boxes.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/...asonics15.html



Quote:

Originally Posted by tedloc
it is hypocritical for sonics fans wanting to steal someone elses team...

it really is too bad clay couldn't of waited and just bought the hornets
instead of messing up all the history and divisions that were in place.


The Hornets are New Orleans team and why would they want to move to Seattle? Their attendance this year is better than the Sonics was, even during the 04/05 playoff year.

The Sonics went broke in Seattle. They could no longer afford to keep playing there. There only choice was to move to have any chance of breaking even. The citizens of Seattle were perfectly content to let the owners lose money rather than pass a miniscule tax that has virtually no effect on anyones every day life that would have allowed the team to be financially viable.

Seattle doesn't deserve another team.

nesgodawg 02-14-2009 04:19 PM

Re: Hornets to Seattle?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCover
It was the Sonics that were no longer economically feasible in Seattle and Seattle was unwilling to address it, hypocrite.

Seattle doesn't deserve another team.


And you think OKC deserves a team after supporting a dislocated team for two years? Seattle ranked highly in merchandise sales and television revenue, OKC currently ranks dead last in both categories.

Since when does a 45th sized market deserve a team over a top ten market? Seattle lost only $9.4M last year with Clay Bennett dismantling team and alienating it from the fans, there was no advertising, no player interviews, no fan fest things that people usually do, kinda like how Clay is doing in OKC right. He did everything he could make the team unattractive so people wouldn't care.

Had he advertised and done things a good owner would have done trying to make it work the Sonics would have probably made money in Seattle last year. Advertise a kid like Durant and you make money, simple as that.

Did you know Clay has already lost over $20M this year in OKC? Do you think just because you have 18,000 people there a night that equates out to making money? No it doesn't!

You Okies have your heads so far up your asses that you can't see the light of day.

And do you think the arena plan that Clay proposed in the Seattle area would fly in OKC?

Let me break it down for you on how'd that would work. He would tell that Oklahoma legislature that the only way he'd move a team to OKC is if they built him a $500M arena in a town that wasn't OKC, maybe a suburb, not familiar with area, so I don't know.

You think you're gov't facing the current energy crisis that it is would go for that? You think they'd pay for a basketball arena that costs more than most NFL stadiums and holds a 3rd less people? NO! You kidding me!?

Bennett had no intention of ever trying to make it work, you're boy Aubrey even said that they always intended to move the team to OKC.

OKC does deserve a basketball franchise and Seattle more so. Look at NBA attendance records and you will see that Seattle used to get over 40,000 a night during the championship runs back in the 70's and during the 90s the crowds got so loud you could not hear the PA announcer with the PA cranked to the max!

So by your thinking, all that means nothing and Seattle doesn't deserve a team and you think that OKC does because it supported the Hornets for two years with courtside tickets cost $27 and almost have the nightly tickets being given away, almost like now how a few thousand free tickets are given away just so it looks like you guys have a sell out.

That's just taking money out of Clay's pocket who will be broke soon enough, Aubrey and Tom almost are and Clay doesn't even have half their net worth.

Soon you can just drop the O off the OKC Thunder, because they'll be in KC before you know. Clay has an out in 2014.

Real hometown hero huh?

tedloc 02-14-2009 04:41 PM

Re: Hornets to Seattle?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCover
The Sonics went broke in Seattle. They could no longer afford to keep playing there. There only choice was to move to have any chance of breaking even.


well perhaps if clay had not gutted the roster the team would of done better and made more money...

seattle is a better tv market
a better merchandise market
with a larger fan base
and one of the most storied franchises in history.

clay bennet never intended to keep the team in seattle.
that's obvious to anyone (even someone as dumb as you are)
plus he's the one who bought the damn team
he's the one responsible for them losing money
why should the people of seattle been responsible to build him a 500mil dollar arena?...
make his sorry ass pay for it

david stern should be ashamed at how he let a carpet bagger like bennet ruin a beloved franchise


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