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Lakas Fan Yo 08-15-2009 10:51 PM

Greek League Making Another Push For NBA Players
 
A few weeks ago the Greek League passed a new rule that teams could sign 3 American players instead of just 2 as the rules used to be. After that teams like Aris and Olympiacos signed NBA players.

Now the Greek League just announced 2 new big changes to bring more NBA players. The league will begin broadcasting games on the internet and will have a new large sports enterprise company run the league's marketing. They are also talking about making the league's website available in English. Previously, the league had no marketing budget at all. The marketing budget will be larger than the Spanish League's marketing budget.

Also, they announced that there will be a new TV deal for the league in Greece and Europe and that all clubs will be able to get their games televised and the entire league will split the TV revenues per club. Each club will then be able to pay their entire budgets and expenses out of the TV revenues.

The stated goal of this is to become the second most important national league in the world and to allow all Greek clubs to sign up to 3 NBA players.

la bomba 08-19-2009 07:38 AM

Re: Greek League Making Another Push For NBA Players
 
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Originally Posted by Lakas Fan Yo
A few weeks ago the Greek League passed a new rule that teams could sign 3 American players instead of just 2 as the rules used to be. After that teams like Aris and Olympiacos signed NBA players.

Now the Greek League just announced 2 new big changes to bring more NBA players. The league will begin broadcasting games on the internet and will have a new large sports enterprise company run the league's marketing. They are also talking about making the league's website available in English. Previously, the league had no marketing budget at all. The marketing budget will be larger than the Spanish League's marketing budget.

Also, they announced that there will be a new TV deal for the league in Greece and Europe and that all clubs will be able to get their games televised and the entire league will split the TV revenues per club. Each club will then be able to pay their entire budgets and expenses out of the TV revenues.

The stated goal of this is to become the second most important national league in the world and to allow all Greek clubs to sign up to 3 NBA players.

difference with spanish and greek league, apart from the obvious depth is the crowd attendance. In greece you get matches with 400 spectators!

Lakas Fan Yo 08-20-2009 10:04 PM

Re: Greek League Making Another Push For NBA Players
 
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Originally Posted by la bomba
difference with spanish and greek league, apart from the obvious depth is the crowd attendance. In greece you get matches with 400 spectators!


That's why they want to put all the games online and in English. And give all the teams TV contracts. And the attendance thing in Greece is really exaggerated.

Greece has extreme rules on counting attendance. No one from the soccer clubs gets counted and no one with season tickets gets counted in attendance figures. Like last year Olympiacos had 9,500 season tickets not counted and Panathinaikos had 8,500 season tickets not counted.

And as an example there was a Panathinaikos game in A1 where 13,000 fans were not counted because they came from the soccer arena. For some reason no one outside of Greece seems to understand they count attendance differently.

la bomba 08-21-2009 11:22 PM

Re: Greek League Making Another Push For NBA Players
 
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Originally Posted by Lakas Fan Yo
That's why they want to put all the games online and in English. And give all the teams TV contracts. And the attendance thing in Greece is really exaggerated.

Greece has extreme rules on counting attendance. No one from the soccer clubs gets counted and no one with season tickets gets counted in attendance figures. Like last year Olympiacos had 9,500 season tickets not counted and Panathinaikos had 8,500 season tickets not counted.

And as an example there was a Panathinaikos game in A1 where 13,000 fans were not counted because they came from the soccer arena. For some reason no one outside of Greece seems to understand they count attendance differently.

So what would the averge attendance of peristeri be? say a game between peristeri and iraklis?

WhiteMosɘs 08-22-2009 05:54 PM

Re: Greek League Making Another Push For NBA Players
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lakas Fan Yo
A few weeks ago the Greek League passed a new rule that teams could sign 3 American players instead of just 2 as the rules used to be. After that teams like Aris and Olympiacos signed NBA players.

Now the Greek League just announced 2 new big changes to bring more NBA players. The league will begin broadcasting games on the internet and will have a new large sports enterprise company run the league's marketing. They are also talking about making the league's website available in English. Previously, the league had no marketing budget at all. The marketing budget will be larger than the Spanish League's marketing budget.

Also, they announced that there will be a new TV deal for the league in Greece and Europe and that all clubs will be able to get their games televised and the entire league will split the TV revenues per club. Each club will then be able to pay their entire budgets and expenses out of the TV revenues.

The stated goal of this is to become the second most important national league in the world and to allow all Greek clubs to sign up to 3 NBA players.


That's sweet. There should really be some site that explains Euroleague to the noobz, because with all the Americans going over there the time is now. This is a good start.

Lakas Fan Yo 08-23-2009 01:08 AM

Re: Greek League Making Another Push For NBA Players
 
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Originally Posted by la bomba
So what would the averge attendance of peristeri be? say a game between peristeri and iraklis?


I don't know. I have not paid attention to A2 games.

Lakas Fan Yo 08-31-2009 04:25 AM

Re: Greek League Making Another Push For NBA Players
 
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Originally Posted by la bomba
So what would the averge attendance of peristeri be? say a game between peristeri and iraklis?


I looked it up and the last Peristeri-Iraklis game had 4,000 attendance.

la bomba 09-01-2009 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lakas Fan Yo
I looked it up and the last Peristeri-Iraklis game had 4,000 attendance.

that is good. i have seen trkish and greek gamesith 400 spectators!! Spain was the only country last year with rising attendences. about 90% capacity on average all grounds.

Lakas Fan Yo 09-01-2009 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by la bomba
that is good. i have seen trkish and greek gamesith 400 spectators!! Spain was the only country last year with rising attendences. about 90% capacity on average all grounds.


Well Peristeri and Iraklis are historic teams in Greece. The ones with those low attendances are teams like Panellinios and Maroussi. Although they are certainly among the stronger teams in Europe (very good at Eurocup level and even decent probably at Euroleague level) they don't have the history behind the clubs to have a good fan base.

In reality, both of them started about 10 years ago. Panellinios goes way back and was once a big club but then for decades they were in lower divisions. Maroussi much the same and even though Maroussi has by far been the 3rd best team in Greece this decade still they have only about that 10 years of history at the top level.

Panellinios actually didn't even make it back to the top division until a few years ago. So they really don't have much of a fan base. But clubs like Iraklis and Peristeri have a lot more recent history than them so they will draw more attendance. Actually Peristeri should be back now. They are back in A1 and they have a 4 million euros budget. They also renovated and expanded their arena last year I think it was.

So mainly those attendance problems are with Maroussi and Panellinios which is sad because they are pretty strong clubs.

la bomba 09-01-2009 08:39 PM

Re: Greek League Making Another Push For NBA Players
 
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Originally Posted by Lakas Fan Yo
Well Peristeri and Iraklis are historic teams in Greece. The ones with those low attendances are teams like Panellinios and Maroussi. Although they are certainly among the stronger teams in Europe (very good at Eurocup level and even decent probably at Euroleague level) they don't have the history behind the clubs to have a good fan base.

In reality, both of them started about 10 years ago. Panellinios goes way back and was once a big club but then for decades they were in lower divisions. Maroussi much the same and even though Maroussi has by far been the 3rd best team in Greece this decade still they have only about that 10 years of history at the top level.

Panellinios actually didn't even make it back to the top division until a few years ago. So they really don't have much of a fan base. But clubs like Iraklis and Peristeri have a lot more recent history than them so they will draw more attendance. Actually Peristeri should be back now. They are back in A1 and they have a 4 million euros budget. They also renovated and expanded their arena last year I think it was.

So mainly those attendance problems are with Maroussi and Panellinios which is sad because they are pretty strong clubs.

I apologise for using two historic teams it was just to give an example.
Maroussi look like they have a strong team,with good signings this year.Was in maroussi only a month ago.nice area.

Lakas Fan Yo 10-02-2009 03:49 PM

Re: Greek League Making Another Push For NBA Players
 
The attendance issue in Greece is highlighted by the Aris-Maroussi series. Aris had 5,000 fans at their game but Maroussi only had 1,650 fans at theirs.


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