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Kblaze8855 06-29-2010 06:43 AM

Random facts to help pass the time.
 
Jordan was second in DPOY voting in 1993 and 3rd in 1992. But in 1991 he was one of 5 players to get only 1 vote. He was tied with Stockton and Derek Harper but behind Dumars and Alvin Robertson.

In 1988 Patrick Ewing played all 82 games and in only 31 minutes a game averaged 20/8 with 3 blocks on 56% shooting. The Knicks made the playoffs. His teammate Mark Jackson recieved 2 more MVP votes than he did. Unrelated but....Mark Jacksons salary in 1988 was 115,000 dollars.


In 1978 Doctor J finished 10th in MVP voting on a team that won 55 games. And its not like he wasnt established. He had just put up 30/7/5 in the 77 finals with 37 and 40 the last 2 games. He recieved 1 vote. Same as Marvin webster who you dont know and have no reason to know. In 79 they won 47 and he was one of 19 players tied for 11th with 1 vote. World B Free got 5 votes on the Clippers who won 43 games. But in 1980 he was second, in 81 he won, in 82 he was third. I kinda wonder what happened. Not like it wash im finally seeing success. He was in the finals in his first NBA season and then won 55 his second. Its the kinds of thing I wish I could have seen for myself. If perception of him changed or did he change something.


In 1994 the Hawks entire team made about 22 million dollars and won 57 games. In 2000 the team made 43 million and they won 28 games. Im suprised the owners ever let the salaries get to where they did....that quickly.


1991 Kenny Smith and hakeem were both on the rockets...and Kenny finished ahead of Hakeem in MVP voting. Hakeem missed a lot of games...but not too many to not be up for awards. He could recieve them. And did get votes. But Kenny got a 3rd place vote in there that made his total higher.


6 players on the 1976 Bullets got an MVP vote in the top 3. They won 48 games that year. And 6 players got a top 3 MVP vote.

ImmortalD24 06-29-2010 06:57 AM

Re: Random facts to help pass the time.
 
Mark Jackson was actually paid $110,100 in 1988 (link). Which would be around $203,054.93 today. (link)

BigTicket 06-29-2010 07:09 AM

Re: Random facts to help pass the time.
 
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Originally Posted by ImmortalD24
Which would be around $2,536,594.73 today. (link)


Thought that sounded wrong, so I tried your link, and it's actually $203,054.93.

ImmortalD24 06-29-2010 07:13 AM

Re: Random facts to help pass the time.
 
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Originally Posted by BigTicket
Thought that sounded wrong, so I tried your link, and it's actually $203,054.93.

Forgot to change the date the second time around. Oops. :D

Manute for Ever! 06-29-2010 10:45 AM

Re: Random facts to help pass the time.
 
During the 26 years that David Stern has been in charge, only eight teams have won the championship; Celtics, Lakers, Bulls, Spurs, 76ers, Pistons, Rockets, Heat.

Edit: I'm a dumbass, forgot the Heat.

Desperado 06-29-2010 10:50 AM

Re: Random facts to help pass the time.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Manute for Ever!
During the 26 years that David Stern has been in charge, only seven teams have won the championship; Celtics, Lakers, Bulls, Spurs, 76ers, Pistons, Rockets.


Forgot the Heat.

Manute for Ever! 06-29-2010 10:52 AM

Re: Random facts to help pass the time.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Desperado
Forgot the Heat.

Oops, will fix.

artificial 06-29-2010 11:16 AM

Re: Random facts to help pass the time.
 
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6 players on the 1976 Bullets got an MVP vote in the top 3. They won 48 games that year. And 6 players got a top 3 MVP vote.
Top 10 you mean. And it would be actually top 11 - Bing was 6th, Hayes was 8th, and Unseld 11th-. I actually had to look it up to understand what you were trying to say.

Interesting that Bing was 6th with such shitty stats: 16ppg 6apg.

SsKSpurs21 06-29-2010 12:40 PM

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Tim Duncan is one of 2 players in NBA history to win a title with his #2 option averaging less than 15 PPG in the playoffs IIRC..Hakeem is the only other guy that did it(1994, 2003)

Tim Duncan is also one of two players, the other being Bill Russell, to win championships with two rosters that had only themselves in common. In Duncan's case, there was not one player left from the 1999 team in 2007.

Hakeem and Tim Duncan are the only NBA superstars to lead their teams to NBA championships without a single all-star or all-NBA teammate (1995, 2003).

VishaltotheG 06-29-2010 01:08 PM

Re: Random facts to help pass the time.
 
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Originally Posted by SsKSpurs21
Tim Duncan is one of 2 players in NBA history to win a title with his #2 option averaging less than 15 PPG in the playoffs IIRC..Hakeem is the only other guy that did it(1994, 2003)

Tim Duncan is also one of two players, the other being Bill Russell, to win championships with two rosters that had only themselves in common. In Duncan's case, there was not one player left from the 1999 team in 2007.

Hakeem and Tim Duncan are the only NBA superstars to lead their teams to NBA championships without a single all-star or all-NBA teammate (1995, 2003).


Ben Wallace?

Kblaze8855 06-29-2010 01:37 PM

Re: Random facts to help pass the time.
 
Quote:

Top 10 you mean. And it would be actually top 11 - Bing was 6th, Hayes was 8th, and Unseld 11th-. I actually had to look it up to understand what you were trying to say.

Interesting that Bing was 6th with such shitty stats: 16ppg 6apg.

I didnt mean that 6 of them were in the top 10. I meant 6 of them recieved at least a top 3 MVP vote:


K. Abdul-Jabbar (LAL) ... 52 39 32 409
Bob McAdoo (BUF) ........ 47 45 23 393
Dave Cowens (BOS) ....... 48 38 24 378
Rick Barry (GST) ........ 20 24 29 201
George McGinnis (PHI) ... 4 11 27 80
Dave Bing (WAS) ......... 2 6 7 35
Phil Smith (GST) ........ 2 4 3 25
Elvin Hayes (WAS) ....... 1 2 6 17
Nate Archibald (KCO) .... 1 1 5 13
Jim Chones (CLE) ........ 2 1 0 13
Wes Unseld (WAS) ........ 0 3 3 12
Earl Monroe (NYK) ....... 2 0 1 11
Fred Brown (SEA) ........ 1 0 5 10
Paul Silas (BOS) ........ 1 1 1 9
Pete Maravich (NOR) ..... 0 1 4 7
Clifford Ray (GST) ...... 0 2 0 6
Phil Chenier (WAS) ...... 0 1 2 5
Walt Frazier (NYK) ...... 1 0 0 5
Jamaal Wilkes (GST) ..... 1 0 0 5
Doug Collins (PHI) ...... 0 1 0 3
John Drew (ATL) ......... 0 1 0 3
Steve Mix (PHI) ......... 0 1 0 3
Jo Jo White (BOS) ....... 0 1 0 3
Bobby Dandridge (WAS) ... 0 0 1 1
John Havlicek (BOS) ..... 0 0 1 1
Len Robinson (WAS) ...... 0 0 1 1
Randy Smith (BUF) ....... 0 0 1 1
Norm Van Lier (CHI) ..... 0 0 1 1
Bill Walton (POR) ....... 0 0 1 1
Paul Westphal (PHO) ..... 0 0 1 1

Yung D-Will 06-29-2010 01:41 PM

Re: Random facts to help pass the time.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VishaltotheG
Ben Wallace?


Billups wasn't an alll star that year?

AirJordan23 06-29-2010 01:48 PM

Re: Random facts to help pass the time.
 
-Allen Iverson has finished top 11 in DPOY voting thrice. As ridiculous as that sounds.

-Shaq was 1 first place vote away from sweeping the MVP voting in 2000.

-'08 Manu had a higher PER than MVP Bryant.

-Pippen was booed at the old chicago stadium circa 1994. iirc, it was early 1994 and then he made some racial comments against Kukoc. I haven't actually seen this game but read it in an article.

-Pip once threw a chair on the court after they didn't call a lane violation on Rodman in a '95 game. He also demanded a trade at that time even to a losing team.

-Pat Riley circa 1997 called Timbug the most similar player to Magic Johnson.

VishaltotheG 06-29-2010 02:14 PM

Re: Random facts to help pass the time.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung D-Will
Billups wasn't an alll star that year?


Nope. Billups didn't get an all star nod until 2006

VishaltotheG 06-29-2010 02:16 PM

Re: Random facts to help pass the time.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Manute for Ever!
During the 26 years that David Stern has been in charge, only eight teams have won the championship; Celtics, Lakers, Bulls, Spurs, 76ers, Pistons, Rockets, Heat.

Edit: I'm a dumbass, forgot the Heat.


Actually the sixers last won in 1983 so really only 7 teams


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