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Re: Hornets/Rockets/Pacers/Nets Trade w/Murphy, Ariza, Lee, Others...
Hmm, trade is baffling in some ways...NO is getting too little value. houston just giving away Ariza?
Works good for the Nets and Indy.
EDIT: Ford just said the trade is official. I do like the Wright for Bellinelli swap NO made.
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**** yes. My man DC can get more PT over @ the Pacers.
Ariza, i wish he stayed in LA after his great season 2 years back, but now he'll play with a guy who can get him open looks (CP3). NO is probably showing CP3 they're dedicated to bringing in talent to make him happier.
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Hornets need a backup PG now so maybe they pickup Ford after he's waived.
I really thought Collison had more value than this, then again maybe the Posey contract had to do with getting less back.
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[QUOTE=gasolina]Maybe it's his attitude?[/QUOTE]
It is.
[url]http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/01/04/t-j-ford-the-latest-pacer-point-guard-to-fall-out-of-favor/[/url]
^ I was lazy with my sources, sorry. But this sums up the situation pretty well. TJ Ford actually was pissed about the amount of minutes he was playing and the coaches wanted better defense and shot selection out of him.
Maybe he goes to Europe? China? LOL
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[QUOTE=Jr Llaban]**** yes. My man DC can get more PT over @ the Pacers.
Ariza, i wish he stayed in LA after his great season 2 years back, but now he'll play with a guy who can get him open looks (CP3). NO is probably showing CP3 they're dedicated to bringing in talent to make him happier.[/QUOTE]
ariza got open looks in adelmans offense, he just sucks. hes not made for a major role on a team. this MUST have been CP3's idea, wanting N.O. to show hes their guy. this is still a dumb move though
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Re: Hornets/Rockets/Pacers/Nets Trade w/Murphy, Ariza, Lee, Others...
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Re: Hornets/Rockets/Pacers/Nets Trade w/Murphy, Ariza, Lee, Others...
Awesome trade for Houston. I liked how Ariza was panning out with Martin in the line up, however this trade really gives our team more balance. Courtney is going to be excellent of our bench and is a capable starter for when/if Martin gets injured.
I think the motivation behind this trade was 1) salary reasons, this lets Houston pay less tax and 2) Houston wants Budinger as a future starter and with Ariza in the fold, this just wasn't going to work out.
Should be a fun season in Houston :).
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Re: Hornets/Rockets/Pacers/Nets Trade w/Murphy, Ariza, Lee, Others...
Such a confusing trade. Ariza is a great prospect as a young, athletic wing but I'm not entirely sure it's worth giving up solid defensive presence of Posey off the bench as well as a guy like Collison, who can ball and is a bit of insurance at the PG spot in case a) CP3 gets injured again or b) makes a stink and demands a trade. Hornets are reaaaally taking a chance here, and I'm not sure the addition of a guy like Ariza was what Paul had in mind when asking the organization to start making moves.
Pacers are the obvious winners in this trade. That goes undisputed. Doesn't change their playoff berth implications but it could help them win a few more games in the regular season.
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[QUOTE=2LeTTeRS]If this is true expect Ford to sign with the Bobcats. We need a starting point guard terribly at this point.[/QUOTE]
You have two better starting options right now in Augustin and Livingston.
Livingston, Jackson and Wallace. Nasty defense
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Re: Hornets/Rockets/Pacers/Nets Trade w/Murphy, Ariza, Lee, Others...
[QUOTE=leopoldstotch]a clear sign where hornets organization is trying to make moves to keep chris paul in NO. :lol
advantage pacers in this trade.[/QUOTE]
Yes, and in the process it's killing their own chances. There's no way they get better with Ariza, because he's just a solid role player, NOT a #2 option on a team. And since they have no other PG who can produce, CP will still have a huge load on his shoulders, have to play 38+ minutes a game, and will get injured and worn out come playoffs...yet agian. And, CP will still leave once his deal is up, meaning the hornets will be right back into looking for a PG, when they already gave away their future PG.
We have seen the team attempt to make ANY kind of upgrade with talent by making stupid moves. They overpaid Mo Pete to get him from Toronto. They gave Peja a max deal when he was a FA in Indy. They paid Posey WAY too much money to get him from Boston. And now, when they can finally get some young talent to build on, they go make another move to dump Posey's deal and attempt to fill a hole on the wing with a player who is overrated. They keep trying to patch holes in a ship, and not realizing they are only helping it sink faster.
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Re: Hornets/Rockets/Pacers/Nets Trade w/Murphy, Ariza, Lee, Others...
Grade for the Pacers: [B]A+[/B]
They get a point guard for the future and a good character guy in Posey. They are left with a hole at power forward though. Hansborough and Foster are going to need to be healthy and ready to contribute.
Grade for the Nets: [B]B[/B]
Murphy and Lopez seem like an odd pairing. No defense and they're both jump shooters. I really don't see why they gave up Lee. Doesn't really make sense. Still, it's a talent upgrade.
Grade for the Rockets: [B]A-[/B]
Great play here. Budinger needed more minutes and Ariza didn't really fit in. Lee is good insurance for Martin and this gives the bulk of the small forward minutes to Battier (superior defender to Ariza) and Budinger (superior shooter to Ariza)
Grade for the Hornets - [B]D[/B]
They got rick-rolled. Hornets GM gets an e-mail with a link saying, 'Check out this hot double dildo action' Fool clicks on it, and gets Rick Astley.
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[QUOTE=Showtime]They keep trying to patch holes in a ship, and not realizing they are only helping it sink faster.[/QUOTE]
They'll be the next NBA team to be relocated.