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Horde of Temujin 09-16-2010 08:36 AM

Players better than Dwight Howard
 
Yesterday i made the apparantly absurd comment that the following players are better than Dwight Howard, some Isher's (well almost all of them) were a bit dismayed and shocked at my list. I for one just dont see it, Dwight is a great defensive force/rebounder but the man is severely limited on offense, he cant create his own shot no moves, makes many mental mistakes, but even against quality big man he can be beat man to man.

I was told that i am literally the only person who thinks like this and that i should commit suicide. So i was hoping for some input on this because i doubt im the only who feels this way.
I dont know, im not some irrational hater but I just dont see it with him.

Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Dwayne Wade
Tim Duncan
Paul Pierce
Kobe Bryant
Chris Paul
Al Jefferson
Deron Williams
Pau Gasol
Dirk Nowitzki
Manu Ginobili
Steve Nash
Brandon Roy
Carmelo Anthony


Updated to the list:

Marc Gasol
Demarcus Cousins
Zach Randolph
Stephen Curry
Derrick Rose
Blake Griffin
James Harden
Tony Parker
Russel Westbrook
Tyson Chandler
Kevin Love
Joachim Noah

PHILA 09-16-2010 08:40 AM

Re: Players better than Dwight Howard
 
:facepalm

treeztuhn 09-16-2010 08:47 AM

Re: Players better than Dwight Howard
 
chris paul will outrebound dwigt for sure...

Horde of Temujin 09-16-2010 08:48 AM

Re: Players better than Dwight Howard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by treeztuhn
chris paul will outrebound dwigt for sure...


ok.....

iamgine 09-16-2010 08:50 AM

Re: Players better than Dwight Howard
 
Better skill wise? Tons

Better impact wise? Very few.

olddangerfield 09-16-2010 08:52 AM

Re: Players better than Dwight Howard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horde of Temujin
Yesterday i made the apparantly absurd comment that the following players are better than Dwight Howard, some Isher's (well almost all of them) were a bit dismayed and shocked at my list. I for one just dont see it, Dwight is a great defensive force/rebounder but the man is severely limited on offense, he cant create his own shot no moves, makes many mental mistakes, but even against quality big man he can be beat man to man.

I was told that i am literally the only person who thinks like this and that i should commit suicide. So i was hoping for some input on this because i doubt im the only who feels this way.
I dont know, im not some irrational hater but I just dont see it with him.

Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Dwayne Wade
Kobe Bryant
Chris Paul

Carmelo Anthony


fixed

treeztuhn 09-16-2010 08:53 AM

Re: Players better than Dwight Howard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horde of Temujin
ok.....

but why compare dwight to other players with other position???

Nelson14 09-16-2010 08:53 AM

Re: Players better than Dwight Howard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horde of Temujin
Yesterday i made the apparantly absurd comment that the following players are better than Dwight Howard, some Isher's (well almost all of them) were a bit dismayed and shocked at my list. I for one just dont see it, Dwight is a great defensive force/rebounder but the man is severely limited on offense, he cant create his own shot no moves, makes many mental mistakes, but even against quality big man he can be beat man to man.

I was told that i am literally the only person who thinks like this and that i should commit suicide. So i was hoping for some input on this because i doubt im the only who feels this way.
I dont know, im not some irrational hater but I just dont see it with him.

Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Dwayne Wade
Tim Duncan
Paul Pierce
Kobe Bryant
Chris Paul
Al Jefferson
Deron Williams
Pau Gasol
Dirk Nowitzki
Manu Ginobili
Steve Nash
Brandon Roy
Carmelo Anthony



Dwight Howard is a franchise player, and the best center in the league. He is a super star and players like kobe, wade, lebron and maybe durant and dirk are at his level. You cannot build a team around, roy, melo, nash, manu, pau, deron, al, and crhis and succeed like you can with dwight. He is your defensive anchor, and rebounding monster, as soon as he steps on the floor other teams completely change their offense. Now allot of those guys are much better scorers than dwight, and pau and al both have much better post moves but overall i put dwight ahead of them

Horde of Temujin 09-16-2010 08:55 AM

Re: Players better than Dwight Howard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nelson14
Dwight Howard is a franchise player, and the best center in the league. He is a super star and players like kobe, wade, lebron and maybe durant and dirk are at his level. You cannot build a team around, roy, melo, nash, manu, pau, deron, al, and crhis and succeed like you can with dwight. He is your defensive anchor, and rebounding monster, as soon as he steps on the floor other teams completely change their offense. Now allot of those guys are much better scorers than dwight, and pau and al both have much better post moves but overall i put dwight ahead of them


Good point, thanks for the input

Yung D-Will 09-16-2010 08:58 AM

Re: Players better than Dwight Howard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horde of Temujin
Yesterday i made the apparantly absurd comment that the following players are better than Dwight Howard, some Isher's (well almost all of them) were a bit dismayed and shocked at my list. I for one just dont see it, Dwight is a great defensive force/rebounder but the man is severely limited on offense, he cant create his own shot no moves, makes many mental mistakes, but even against quality big man he can be beat man to man.

I was told that i am literally the only person who thinks like this and that i should commit suicide. So i was hoping for some input on this because i doubt im the only who feels this way.
I dont know, im not some irrational hater but I just dont see it with him.

Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Dwayne Wade
Tim Duncan
Paul Pierce
Kobe Bryant
Chris Paul
Al Jefferson
Deron Williams

Pau Gasol
Dirk Nowitzki
Manu Ginobili
Steve Nash
Brandon Roy
Carmelo Anthony


As a Jazz fan let me save you some time Deron Williams isn't better then Dwight Howard.

And Al Jefferson isn't better then Dwight ( Until next season hopefully)

:pimp:

Horde of Temujin 09-16-2010 09:07 AM

Re: Players better than Dwight Howard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung D-Will
As a Jazz fan let me save you some time Deron Williams isn't better then Dwight Howard.

And Al Jefferson isn't better then Dwight ( Until next season hopefully)

:pimp:



D. Will's the man and Its a shame Al got injured he was on a tear and improving so much, as horrible a GM Mchale was i feel with his tutelage Jefferson was getting a lot better. We'll see if Hakeem has a better impact than Ewing. THe Jazz are definitely looking good for next year, i feel this is their best team since Stockton/Malone.

Yung D-Will 09-16-2010 09:11 AM

Re: Players better than Dwight Howard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horde of Temujin
D. Will's the man and Its a shame Al got injured he was on a tear and improving so much, as horrible a GM Mchale was i feel with his tutelage Jefferson was getting a lot better. We'll see if Hakeem has a better impact than Ewing. THe Jazz are definitely looking good for next year, i feel this is their best team since Stockton/Malone.


Actually AL Jefferson's production increased every month last season by March he was back to averaging 19-10.

He said he was only about 85% at the end of the season and he's back to 100% now he said.

But yea.

That's why I'm glad Utah didn't actually draft Jefferson. He was a natural post scorer with a lot of moves in his arsenal on Boston. But he became a much better player since He would seek out Mchale after nearly every game to learn something new from him which made him into the post player he is today.


I could write a book about everything I hate that Deron does in games.

Glad to see someone else who realizes how good Al Jefferson is as a player.

Andrei89 09-16-2010 09:18 AM

Re: Players better than Dwight Howard
 
Om not fking RG again lol!

j3lademaster 09-16-2010 09:36 AM

Re: Players better than Dwight Howard
 
Dwight took an equal supporting cast(if not equal then barely better) Bosh had last year to the '09 finals... that's their difference in impact put into perspective.

Da KO King 09-16-2010 09:41 AM

Re: Players better than Dwight Howard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horde of Temujin
Yesterday i made the apparantly absurd comment that the following players are better than Dwight Howard........

Lebron James
Kevin Durant
Dwayne Wade
Tim Duncan
Paul Pierce
Kobe Bryant
Chris Paul
Al Jefferson
Deron Williams
Pau Gasol
Dirk Nowitzki
Manu Ginobili
Steve Nash
Brandon Roy
Carmelo Anthony

If you are talking in terms of skill and/or hoops IQ only then sure. If you mean productivity and impact on the floor then you're being ridiculous.


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