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TheReturnofCed 06-19-2006 09:29 PM

Draft position rankings by Ced.
 
PG:
1. Marcus Williams- Makes others better. Best skill to have
2. Randy Foye- Hopefully can become a point guard. Excellent scorer.
3. Mardy Collins- Excellent defender can play two positions. Crap shooter.
4. Sergio Rodriguez- Spectacular passer but t/o prone. A great or a bust
5. Kyle Lowry- Fantastic passer, should be a career starter if in the right situation. (Atlanta!)

SG:
1. Brandon Roy- What doesn't he do well?
2. JJ Redick- Ranked highly because his shooting skills are a great attribute. Should be one of the best shooters the league has ever seen.
3. James White- Light years ahead of other draftees in defense and passing. Supposedly his shot is looking good. Almost at Roy's level.
4. Rodney Carney- Is just athletic, needs more of an offensive game and defense to cut in on the next level. Too short to be a small forward and a poor ball handler for a guard.
5. Maurice Ager- From a good program and plays with great intensity. Good defender, excellent ball handler, dynamic scorer.

SF:
1. Adam Morrison- A go to guy. No one else in this draft has that title. This guy is a possible franchise player. I'm not sold on anyone else in this draft being that.
2. Rudy Gay- Athletic, extremly gifted, ready to improve, but lacklustre.
3. PJ Tucker- If he had Gay's skill set he would be the number 1 pick. To small for small forard and to slow to be a shooting guard. No jumper.
4. Shawne Williams- Another lacklustre player in the mold of Rudy Gay, a great great scorer though, is an average defender at best.
5. Louis Amundson- A hustle guy, and a tweener. Will get court time with hustle alone. A David lee type IMO.

PF:
1. Shelden Williams- The beast. Will dominate the boards in his rookie campaign. Coaches will struggle to keep him on the bench.
2. Andrea Bargani- Looks silky smooth and is committed to defense as well. Needs to add weight to his frame fro mas far as I can see. Does some good damage against very good competition.
3. Leon Powe- If his knees hold out should be a lottery player. So dominate, reminds me a lot of a young Charles Barkley. Will be an absolute steal for whatever team gets him.
4. Tyrus Thomas- Bust. Athletic bust. Hype driven up by the play of his great teammates. Shawn Marion produced in college, Thomas didn't.
5. Cedric Simmons- The equivalent of Tyrus Thomas but isn't a tweener. Should be a good reserve big for his career.

CT:
1. Lamarcus Aldridge- A solid big man who can score facing up and posting up. Athletic shot blocker, great at running the floor. Would suit Atlanta's style of play or Charlotte's.
2. Hilton Armstrong- An excellent shot blocker, with great timing. He will also need to bulk up, otherwise he is a career resrve.
3. Patrick O'Bryant- Project big man, with a huge wingspan. Only some one game but shows a nice hook shot, nice timing for blocks and has big mitts for catching passes. Should be a good player down the track.
4. Paul Davis- Relentless rebounder. He should have a similar career to Jeff Foster mixed with Chris Mihm.
5. Saer Sene- Project. Never seen him. But he has a huge wingspan and has to be better than Pittsnogle.

TheReturnofCed 06-19-2006 09:45 PM

Anyone else care to try?

Zalendar 06-19-2006 09:50 PM

Nice lists. I don't know all the players well enough to give a ranking.

Who do you think is the best player in the draft? Currently and who will be the best down the road?

AKADS 06-19-2006 10:02 PM

Where Ronnie Brewer and JJ is a little high. I think he will be a defencive liability. But once again Ced nice list.

TheReturnofCed 06-19-2006 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zalendar
Nice lists. I don't know all the players well enough to give a ranking.

Who do you think is the best player in the draft? Currently and who will be the best down the road?


Best current?

Adam Morrison and Brandon Roy-tie

Next tier:
LaMarcus Aldridge-Marcus Williams-Shelden Williams

Best player in time:
Andrea Bargani-Rudy Gay-Patrick O'Bryant-Shawne Williams

TheReturnofCed 06-19-2006 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKADS
Where Ronnie Brewer and JJ is a little high. I think he will be a defencive liability. But once again Ced nice list.


Ronnie Brewer is highly overrated.

If he ever makes an allstar game I'll stop posting at ISH.

brwnman 06-19-2006 11:03 PM

"2. Hilton Armstrong- An excellent shot blocker, with great timing. He will also need to bulk up, otherwise he is a career resrve."

Steven Hunter??? sounds like it...

TheReturnofCed 06-19-2006 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brwnman
"2. Hilton Armstrong- An excellent shot blocker, with great timing. He will also need to bulk up, otherwise he is a career resrve."

Steven Hunter??? sounds like it...



And that's still better than the other center prospects

dpgreen 06-19-2006 11:17 PM

good lists, but I don't agree with Shelden williams being rated above Bargnani. Do you have a reason for putting him above him, or is it the euro factor?

TheReturnofCed 06-20-2006 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dpgreen
good lists, but I don't agree with Shelden williams being rated above Bargnani. Do you have a reason for putting him above him, or is it the euro factor?


It's the fact that I'd rather a potential Bill Russell-type over a potential Dirk Nowitzki-type.

Thats the first time that comparison has come up but I've seen enough footage of both to liken the two to each other. NCAA is not a good fit for Shelden, trust me he will be a beast in the NBA.

TheReturnofCed 06-20-2006 03:56 AM

Also I have Bargani rated above Tyrus Thomas so don't call me anti Euro.

hotsizzle 06-20-2006 04:03 AM

awesome list ced but tyrus thomas is 4th on the PF??? you're pretty high on leon powe it seems but hes projected to land late first early second.

TheReturnofCed 06-20-2006 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotsizzle
awesome list ced but tyrus thomas is 4th on the PF??? you're pretty high on leon powe it seems but hes projected to land late first early second.


Leon Powe was the 5th ranked player out of high school, and his game has steadily improved since.

I heard about Powe when he was still in high school, he dominated in college he just had poor teammates at Cali.

I have never heard of Tyrus Thomas, until this year, and he has no skills at all.

ClutchCityReturns 06-20-2006 04:25 AM

You say Ronnie Brewer is highly overrated, yet your own "bet" regarding him is in terms of all-star appearances. How do you explain that when this draft is filled with guys projected to be solid role players throughout most of the Lottery? Saying Brewer won't make an all-star game is pretty much irrelevant, is what I'm saying. Saying he won't make All-Rookie 2nd team or better, that he'll never be a starter, or that he'll never average more than 10/5 would be saying something...

TheReturnofCed 06-20-2006 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClutchCityReturns
You say Ronnie Brewer is highly overrated, yet your own "bet" regarding him is in terms of all-star appearances. How do you explain that when this draft is filled with guys projected to be solid role players throughout most of the Lottery? Saying Brewer won't make an all-star game is pretty much irrelevant, is what I'm saying. Saying he won't make All-Rookie 2nd team or better, that he'll never be a starter, or that he'll never average more than 10/5 would be saying something...


OK I predict the highlight of his career will be making the all-rookie 2nd team if he manages to be a defensive specialist in his first year.

He will never do any better than that unless he shorts out that crooked jumpshot.

Career projections:
SG:
1. Brandon Roy- Future Allstar.
2. JJ Redick- Starter for most of his career.
3. James White- Starter/ All D.
4. Rodney Carney- Starter.
5. Maurice Ager- Starter.
6. Ronnie Brewer- Reserve or specialty starter if his D improves. Stacey Augmon at best.


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