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MeLO MvP 15 12-18-2010 03:15 PM

TRADE: Magic trade Vince, Gortat, Pietrus, pick to Suns for J-Rich, Hedo, E.Clark
 
The Orlando Magic have acquired Jason Richardson, Hedo Turkoglu and Earl Clark from the Phoenix Suns in exchange for Vince Carter, Marcin Gortat, Mickael Pietrus, a 2011 first round draft selection and cash considerations, President of Basketball Operations/General Manager Otis Smith announced today.

“We’re very excited to welcome these three players to our family,” said Smith. “Jason (Richardson) is a tremendous athlete who runs the floor, can shoot the ball and loves to compete. We’re obviously familiar with Hedo (Turkoglu). He is a great shooter and is a player that has flourished in our system. We liked Earl (Clark) in the draft a few years ago, and he will help fortify our frontcourt. Vince (Carter), Marcin (Gortat) and Mickael (Pietrus) did a lot for our organization and we wish them great success in the future.”


Read more: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=6938#ixzz18VFUJm4u

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Wow, Orlando really missed Turkoglu. Sucks for Steve Nash, his team has pretty much taken away his consistent scoring option and the future doesn't look too bright. Sure they dump Turk (who they just got lol) and get a true center, but they're gna miss Richardson. Maybe Nash can help VC out and maybe Orlando was just a bad fit. Kinda funny b/c Turk ends up the winner here IMO, he wanted to stay in Orlando but wanted the money more, now he gets both and the Magic pretty much admitted to making a mistake by getting rid of him lol. Richardson will be a great fit at SG for Orlando IMO. I can't see them pulling of the Arenas deal now, unless they're planning on bringing Turk, Richardson or Arenas off the bench. Also if they trade Lewis for Arenas then they lose what made Turk so good in Orlando. Also he did well in Orlando b/c he shared the ball handling duties with Nelson, but with Arenas how would that work?

Seems like a panic move for Orlando IMO

2LeTTeRS 12-18-2010 03:16 PM

Re: Report: Magic- Suns Trade Almost Done
 
You realize this is just an add-on to the same deal that already has 2 threads on the first page right?

Blue&Orange 12-18-2010 03:26 PM

Re: Report: Magic- Suns Trade Almost Done
 
I'm pretty sure Magic interest is Richardson, and Suns only do it if they get rid of Turkoglu. I really don't see how Turk is the winner.

Qwyjibo 12-18-2010 03:32 PM

Re: Report: Magic- Suns Trade Almost Done
 
The winner of that trade is Gortat. He'll finally get some minutes and he'll be fed by Steve Nash. I would think he'd be dying to go to any team that doesn't have a superstar C.

BlackWhiteGreen 12-18-2010 03:35 PM

Re: Report: Magic- Suns Trade Almost Done
 
The winner of the trade is Phoenix. Broussard says:

Quote:

Full deal: Phx sends Hedo/J Rich/Earl Clark to Orlando for Vince/Gortat/Pietrus, 2011 first round pick and cash considerations, sources say

Which is daylight robbery. PHX gets 3 of the best 4 players in the deal, plus a pick, plus cash.

BallsOut 12-18-2010 03:36 PM

Re: Report: Magic- Suns Trade Almost Done
 
If this trade along with the Arenas for Lewis swap goes down:

PG: Nelson/Duhon/Williams
SG: Arenas/Reddick
SF: Richardson/Anderson
PF: Turkoglu/Bass/Allen
C: Howard/Orton

:eek:

Qwyjibo 12-18-2010 03:37 PM

Re: Report: Magic- Suns Trade Almost Done
 
Quote:

Full deal: Phx sends Hedo/J Rich/Earl Clark to Orlando for Vince/Gortat/Pietrus, 2011 first round pick and cash considerations, sources say
If that's the full deal then it's a steal for Phoenix. Wow.

LJJ 12-18-2010 03:37 PM

Re: Report: Magic- Suns Trade Almost Done
 
Orlando front office is just awful.

ChuckOakley 12-18-2010 03:39 PM

Re: Report: Magic- Suns Trade Almost Done
 
SUNS
Nash / Gragic
Carter / Pietrus / Childress
G.Hill / Warrick
Frye / Dudley / Lawal
Gortat / Lopez / Barron

Great deal for Orlando, though I don't think they really have improved enough to guarantee playoffs.

824 12-18-2010 03:41 PM

Re: Report: Magic- Suns Trade Almost Done
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BallsOut
If this trade along with the Arenas for Lewis swap goes down:

PG: Nelson/Duhon/Williams
SG: Arenas/Reddick
SF: Richardson/Anderson
PF: Turkoglu/Bass/Allen
C: Howard/Orton

:eek:


Ewww

Why are they moving sideways :confusedshrug:

Lakers13 12-18-2010 03:43 PM

Re: Report: Magic- Suns Trade Almost Done
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckOakley
SUNS
Nash / Gragic
Carter / Pietrus / Childress
G.Hill / Warrick
Frye / Dudley / Lawal
Gortat / Lopez / Barron

Great deal for Orlando, though I don't think they really have improved enough to guarantee playoffs.


I'd start Lopez over Frye at the PF spot

ginobli2311 12-18-2010 03:43 PM

Re: Report: Magic- Suns Trade Almost Done
 
its better on paper for the suns looking at it in a vacuum, but that is not how this works.

gortat is giving the magic nothing. he's worthless on their roster. he gives them like 4 points and 5 boards a game in 16 minutes. that is easy to replace. so they lose nothing with him.

vince is awful and plays no defense and is a playoff choker. you'd much rather have hedo than vince in the playoffs. hedo is a much better fit for this team as well.

j-rich is better than pietrus.

so while on paper its better for the suns in a vacuum...the deal is actually great for orlando as well. the magic are trying to win a title, and they just got a lot better for that.

the deal was done because it helps the suns as well. its mutually beneficial.

Qwyjibo 12-18-2010 03:43 PM

Re: Report: Magic- Suns Trade Almost Done
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 824
Ewww

Why are they moving sideways :confusedshrug:

Same thing I thought too. These are lateral moves for Orlando. Changes for the sake of making changes. They gain a little bit of playmaking I guess with Arenas/Turkoglu.

MeLO MvP 15 12-18-2010 03:46 PM

Re: Report: Magic- Suns Trade Almost Done
 
Damn Orlando must have a lot of faith in Bass now b/c they have no bigs left (besides Howard and Bass). Damn I think they almost have to try get a back up big now.

They should try to get Murphy (idk if they have the pieces to though). This probably makes Reddick available (where's he gna play with Nelson, Arenas, Richardson (Jason and Q) and Turkoglu)... He'd be a good fit in Denver, Chicago, New Orleans and a couple of places.

Damn Orlando's owner has deep pockets.

Faberg 12-18-2010 03:46 PM

Re: Report: Magic- Suns Trade Almost Done
 
So the Suns get Gortat back since they traded his draft rights and they get another pick. Nice! :rockon:

Gortat wont worry about playing time. He'll be playing immediately.


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