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UtahJazzFan88 01-06-2011 06:30 PM

Anyone else frustrated?
 
Anyone else worried about the Jazz, I know they're 24-12, which should be a good record, but from what I've seen by reports and other people, players are seemingly happy about these comeback wins, but Deron Williams has been apparently frustrated a lot and isn't as happy as other players.

For a team that's 24-12, we have a lot of things to fix, Al Jefferson still has not playing up to his potential, and we're always starting out first quarters awful.

Anyone else starting to get worried/frustrated?

Xiao Yao You 01-06-2011 06:40 PM

Re: Anyone else frustrated?
 
Same old Jazz. Get rid of the coach and maybe things would change.

DeronMillsap 01-08-2011 04:40 AM

Re: Anyone else frustrated?
 
I've been worried and frustrated since early-December. Everybody's been inconsistent, Millsap might be the more reliable player this season but that's not enough.

We need Deron, Al, and AK to step every game. Bell needs to play better and stop complaining to the refs. Miles need to stop being selfish.

Last two-three weeks, Hayward might be our best player and he's a rookie. He's the only guy to seem to play with some heart.

UtahJazzFan88 01-08-2011 05:34 PM

Re: Anyone else frustrated?
 
I've just been getting the vibe from Deron Williams in the last 2-3 weeks that he almost wants out of town with his body language on and off the court, I may be wrong, but he's not happy with this team right now, even with a 24-13 record.

Jefferson needs to change up his offense and play with some authority and strength instead of settling for jumpers and push shots, if we needed those, we would have resigned or tried harder to get Boozer back.

I think Sloan should try starting Deron at the 2, and play Earl Watson at the PG, so we could have a dual point guard starting line-up, some teams have done it this year, I think the Jazz should try it, they need to speed up their offense.

DeronMillsap 01-09-2011 01:20 AM

Re: Anyone else frustrated?
 
We got a great team effort tonight in Houston.

Miles had 16 on good shot selections.
Jefferson kept the game close in the 3rd. Finished with 24/13.
Deron pushed the ball and opened the floor in the 4th. 14/15 but made a lot of mistakes.
Millsap went clutch-mode in the 4th and OT. Finished with 27/10/4

I want to see this every night.

Xiao Yao You 01-09-2011 08:55 AM

Re: Anyone else frustrated?
 
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We need Deron, Al, and AK to step every game. Bell needs to play better and stop complaining to the refs.

OTHER than DERON are they capable? Bells old.

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Last two-three weeks, Hayward might be our best player and he's a rookie. He's the only guy to seem to play with some heart.

LOL! From worthless to MVP in a matter of weeks!

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I've just been getting the vibe from Deron Williams in the last 2-3 weeks that he almost wants out of town with his body language on and off the court, I may be wrong, but he's not happy with this team right now

CAn u blame him? He's one of the best players in the league. He watches what other franchises do and he's stuck in Utah.

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if we needed those, we would have resigned or tried harder to get Boozer back.

No they didn't want to pay him 16 million a year. Made no sense to sign Jefferson with MILLSap around anyway. THey should try to send Jefferson and or Okur in the Carmelo deal and try to get RIp.

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I think Sloan should try starting Deron at the 2, and play Earl Watson at the PG, so we could have a dual point guard starting line-up, some teams have done it this year, I think the Jazz should try it, they need to speed up their offense.

But that still leaves Price in the rotation which along with Fessenko and Elson is one of their problems.

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I want to see this every night.

But you won't cuz Millsap won't get the ball despite shooting 55% from the field.

UtahJazzFan88 01-09-2011 02:55 PM

Re: Anyone else frustrated?
 
Why get Rip Hamilton, he's just a bit better version of Raja Bell which is an old player on the decline.

DeronMillsap 01-09-2011 03:07 PM

Re: Anyone else frustrated?
 
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Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
LOL! From worthless to MVP in a matter of weeks!

That was a month ago and a half when he looked worthless. lol

Xiao Yao You 01-10-2011 05:27 PM

Re: Anyone else frustrated?
 
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Why get Rip Hamilton, he's just a bit better version of Raja Bell which is an old player on the decline.

Unlike Bell his recent decline may have more to do with his team than having just missed a whole season because of injury. I'll take Hamilton over Okur right now. Throw in Murphy who is a rebounding version of Okur with an expiring contract.

DeronMillsap 01-13-2011 04:52 AM

Re: Anyone else frustrated?
 
Against the Knicks tonight:
Deron- 24, 7 boards and 12 assists
Miles with 20+
Jefferson with 19-6-3blk
Millsap with 17-8-4
AK47 with 14-7-6-2blk
Bell with 18
Okur with 10 in 12 minutes

More of this would be so sweet.

Yung D-Will 01-13-2011 07:16 AM

Re: Anyone else frustrated?
 
Why would I be frustrated the one year we have a great road record?

Life's good

And why would Jefferson be frustrated with these comeback wins. The amount of comeback wins we've had this season is equal to or greater then the amount of total wins the t-wolves had.

Paul's finally getting his chance to start

Bell's finally healthy

AK'S staying healhy

Memo's back

Hell even haywards playing better



26-13 Life's good


Why would Deron be frustrated. I remember specifically his main problem with the Jazz the past years has been their road record.

=X

Overreactions for meaningless games are pointless.

Yung D-Will 01-13-2011 07:22 AM

Re: Anyone else frustrated?
 
O and yes December was by far the worse month for Jazz basketball I've ever seen :oldlol:

Xiao Yao You 01-13-2011 08:27 PM

Re: Anyone else frustrated?
 
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Why would I be frustrated the one year we have a great road record?

Because it's come at the cost of a dominant home record.

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Paul's finally getting his chance to start

For the time being anyway and not because the franchise has a clue but because of injury.

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The amount of comeback wins we've had this season is equal to or greater then the amount of total wins the t-wolves had.

The fact that they're playing from behind so much isn't a good thing.

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Bell's finally healthy

For how long?

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AK'S staying healhy

He is? He just missed games because of his back again.

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Memo's back

Not necessarily a good thing. Time will tell.

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Hell even haywards playing better

A 20 year old is improving? Hard to believe.

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O and yes December was by far the worse month for Jazz basketball I've ever seen

And it adds up to 5th place for a team paying luxury tax and stuck with Okur and Jefferson's contracts. Woo Hoo!

UtahJazzFan88 01-15-2011 02:58 PM

Re: Anyone else frustrated?
 
Well, these last 2 games have temporarily shut me up. Albeit we played 2 teams that have terrible defense's, but we played our 2 most complete games of the season I felt like, aside from the New Orleans home game, and the Indiana game. Cleveland sucks, but it was still a big confidence booster for us.

Hopefully this can lead to better games at home, and help us on our 4 game road trip.

Yung D-Will 01-16-2011 06:02 AM

Re: Anyone else frustrated?
 
Well since every point you made was borderline retarded and I've gotten past the point where I waste my time responding to your worthless post I'll respond to the only logical point I saw you make.


We're less dominate at home. Do you think Deron preferred if we were much more dominant at home but shitty on the road again? Do you think we're gonna have homecourt against teams like the Lakers? We need to win on the road like we never could before. It's no0t like we don't have one of the best home records in the leauge at the moment but we also have one of the best road records. If you'd ask me any year if I'd give up some of those home wins just to have one of the best road records the clear answer is yes.

That's why we're 3rd in the west right now and why we're 27-13.


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