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insidehoops 09-29-2011 11:48 AM

What should the top 10 NBA 2K12 forward rankings be?
 


What do you say should be the top 10 NBA 2K12 forwards?

Don't worry about small forwards vs power forwards. Just rank the forwards, period, 1 through 10.

And, as always, feel free to add some insight on each player.

Vienceslav 09-29-2011 12:59 PM

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1. James 94
2. Durant 90
3. Nowitzki 88
4. Anthony 85
5. Stoudemire 85
6. Griffin 83
7. Bosh 82
8. Gay 81
9. Randolph 80
10. Gasol 80

I must have forgot someone but whatever.

Illmaticz 09-29-2011 01:11 PM

Re: What should the top 10 NBA 2K12 forward rankings be?
 
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Originally Posted by Vienceslav
1. James 94
2. Durant 90
3. Nowitzki 88
4. Anthony 85
5. Stoudemire 85
6. Griffin 83
7. Bosh 82
8. Gay 81
9. Randolph 80
10. Gasol 80

I must have forgot someone but whatever.


You forgot Pierce!

1. James 94
2. Durant 90
3. Nowitzki 89
4. Anthony 86
5. Stoudemire 85
6. Griffin 84
7. Pierce 83
8. Gay 81
9. Randolph 81
10. Gasol 80

Dave3 09-29-2011 01:53 PM

Re: What should the top 10 NBA 2K12 forward rankings be?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vienceslav
1. James 94
2. Durant 90
3. Nowitzki 88
4. Anthony 85
5. Stoudemire 85
6. Griffin 83
7. Bosh 82
8. Gay 81
9. Randolph 80
10. Gasol 80

I must have forgot someone but whatever.

Great ratings. I may even have LeBron at 93. This is of course assuming you lower all of the guards as well. ie: Wade is 93, Kobe is 89, etc.

habing everyone high 90s gives no space to rank the legendary players better than them. In this game, LeBron, current Kobe, and current Wade are better than Kareem, Wilt, and Bird:banghead:

Rowe 09-29-2011 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave3
Great ratings. I may even have LeBron at 93. This is of course assuming you lower all of the guards as well. ie: Wade is 93, Kobe is 89, etc.

habing everyone high 90s gives no space to rank the legendary players better than them. In this game, LeBron, current Kobe, and current Wade are better than Kareem, Wilt, and Bird:banghead:

Its because the "ratings" that are applied for todays game dont measure up with past great players.

Bird's speed, agility, strength, & vertical wouldn't be above 70.

While LeBron's speed, agility, & vertical are all above 90. While his strength is in the 80's.

That plays a factor in how well a guy plays from a video game setting and it lowers Bird's rating.

Rnbizzle 09-29-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rowe
Its because the "ratings" that are applied for todays game dont measure up with past great players.

Bird's speed, agility, strength, & vertical wouldn't be above 70.

While LeBron's speed, agility, & vertical are all above 90. While his strength is in the 80's.

That plays a factor in how well a guy plays from a video game setting and it lowers Bird's rating.

Name me one stronger SF then Bron.

NBAller 09-29-2011 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave3
Great ratings. I may even have LeBron at 93. This is of course assuming you lower all of the guards as well. ie: Wade is 93, Kobe is 89, etc.

habing everyone high 90s gives no space to rank the legendary players better than them. In this game, LeBron, current Kobe, and current Wade are better than Kareem, Wilt, and Bird:banghead:



You'll accept it sooner or later...


I think they made the ratings right, from what I've seen. LeBron's the best in the league right now. To me it doesn't matter if he's a 100 or 93, as long as nobody has anything higher.

Dirk should be in the 90s, he might have a slower step now but he's more skillfull and versatile now. Free throws should be in the 90s/high 80s

Rowe 09-29-2011 02:49 PM

Re: What should the top 10 NBA 2K12 forward rankings be?
 
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Originally Posted by Rnbizzle
Name me one stronger SF then Bron.

That wasnt meant to criticize him, I know hes the strongest SF in the NBA.

Im just saying as far as the 2K ratings are concerned, the greater physical components of LeBron puts him above the likes of Bird, Dr. J, etc although he may not be better than them as far as his career is concerned.

In reality a prime LeBron would be clearly physical superior to a prime Larry Bird. He'd torch him in the ways Dominique did, but is bigger, stronger, faster & equipped with a much better all around game than Nique.

Todays players are just bigger, stronger, faster, and are better at different skills than players from the past. Not a knock on the old guys, but just a sign of the times.

Rowe 09-29-2011 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NBAller
You'll accept it sooner or later...


I think they made the ratings right, from what I've seen. LeBron's the best in the league right now. To me it doesn't matter if he's a 100 or 93, as long as nobody has anything higher.

Dirk should be in the 90s, he might have a slower step now but he's more skillfull and versatile now. Free throws should be in the 90s/high 80s


You can raise his Mid-Range, 3PT Shooting, Shooting Off The Dribble, FT, Offensive Awareness, & Clutch but it still wont negate his lack of rebounding, blocks, low post defense, speed, agility, & strength for a PF.

I think Dirk was rated at 83 during the regular season due to this.

His rebounding rating drops him like 7 points, but its true that he isnt going to give you 13 RPG so its no reason to raise it.

Rose 09-29-2011 03:43 PM

Re: What should the top 10 NBA 2K12 forward rankings be?
 
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Originally Posted by Rnbizzle
Name me one stronger SF then Bron.


RRR3 09-29-2011 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rose


Dave3 09-29-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rnbizzle
Name me one stronger SF then Bron.

Those ratings aren't relative to position. They're relative to the entire league. You have to think about it in that way to make ratings accurate. LeBron should be about an 80 at best. Why? Because 2001 Shaq is in the game, and no one comes close to him in strength (assuming he's 99). Players like Anthony Mason, Alonzo Mourning etc. would have strengths in the 90s. Then Dwight, Hakeem, Ewing, Blake, etc. can have strengths mid 80s. Then players like Kareem, LeBron, Artest etc. have their strength about 80.

The same way not all of the superstars should have 95+ offensive awareness. The only players deserving of that are Bird, Magic, and Jordan to a degree. Everyone else should be below that, so as to give space for there to actually be a difference between someone like Bird and someone like LeBron/Kobe in offensive awareness.

They have too many stars all packed together in the high 90s for certain attributes and that minimizes the actual differences between those players.

Another example. Ben Wallace should be about 98 defensive awareness. But that rating is made much less valuable if you put LeBron, Kobe, etc. at 90 defensive awareness as well. Need to have bigger gaps.

luigi11209 09-29-2011 08:00 PM

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1. James 98
2. Durant 93
3. Anthony 93
4. Stoudemire 89
5. Griffin 87
6. Gay 85
7. Nowitzki 85
8. Smith 85
9. Aldridge 84
10. Randolph 83

Balanced, LBJ best in the game.

pauk 09-29-2011 09:02 PM

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1. James 99 (imo, realistically speaking, you cant be a better, more productive and more versatile all-round player than Lebron today)

2. Durant 93
3. Anthony 93
4. Nowitzki 90
5. Stoudemire 89
6. Griffin 87
7. Gay 85
8. Smith 85
9. Aldridge 84
10. Randolph 83

Borat 09-30-2011 01:19 AM

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Ratings dont work this way


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