Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/index.php)
-   NBA Forum (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   All-Time Starting team + 6th Man (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252994)

La Frescobaldi 02-21-2012 03:29 PM

All-Time Starting team + 6th Man
 
Who ya got?

Here's mine.

Center - Wilt Chamberlain
Forward - Larry Bird
Forward - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Guard - Michael Jordan
Guard - Jerry West

6th Man Magic Johnson

*******************

People always look at me like I'm crazy when I got Kareem at the forward but I always thought from the first NBA game I saw Lew Alcindor play that he was a forward playing out of position - they put him at C because he was so tall.
But I don't mind having twin towers & I don't mind having Kareem's 18 foot jumper which is commonly forgot but which was real money. I also don't mind the fact that my forward can not only defend but dominate all centers with great ease. I also don't mind Chamberlain being able to destroy all in the paint and dish to a guy who can crash from high post.
*************************

I've struggled with West vs. Magic for years. But the answer comes in the fact that Magic can play 4 positions with great ease - so effectively he plays full minutes. And I get to keep the two greatest outside threats in basketball history. Logo & Airness together destroy all perimeters in the galaxy.

**********************

Now the guy who is entering into the argument to me is LeBron James.

But what are you gonna do with him?
* Replace Logo? That destroys my team concept and LBJ can never shoot like Logo (nor can he shoot like Bird for that matter, nor Kareem. And he ain't getting Jordan's spot.)
{I would be more likely to reach for Kobe Bryant to replace West but it will depend entirely on KB mental attitude on that day. He "goes to sleep" too much and shot-jacks too much to get that starting job.}

* Replace Larry Bird? I can't replace Bird's all-round greatness with LBJ's all-round greatness - due to Bird's willingness to go to the mats.

He might be able to argue with Magic though as the greatest swingman ever.

************
But that is only my ideas for an All-Time team - of course biased by my timeframe of watching Chamberlain & Frazier Willis Reed and Jerry Lucas... but also I believe it is accurate to say that will be the most perfect starting team ever.....

How would you set it up? Who's on your All-time Team?

ralph_i_el 02-21-2012 03:35 PM

Re: All-Time Starting team + 6th Man
 
C- Wilt
F-Tim Duncan
F-LeBron James
SG- Jordan
PG- John Stockton

6th- Allen Iverson

It was between Duncan and Bird for the PF spot

edit: this may not be the best team, but It's the one I want to watch

arifgokcen 02-21-2012 03:47 PM

Re: All-Time Starting team + 6th Man
 
Mine
C-Hakeem
PF-Garnett
SF-Lebron
SG-Jordan
PG-Payton

Lockdown nobody moves:D

La Frescobaldi 02-21-2012 03:51 PM

Re: All-Time Starting team + 6th Man
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arifgokcen
Mine
C-Hakeem
PF-Garnett
SF-Lebron
SG-Jordan
PG-Payton

Lockdown nobody moves:D


no kiddin, that is serious D team right there!!

But you still got another pick - who ya got first off the bench?

WillC 02-21-2012 03:52 PM

Re: All-Time Starting team + 6th Man
 
C - Wilt Chamberlain
PF - Bill Russell
SF - Larry Bird
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Magic Johnson

6th Man - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

I believe these are the six best basketball players of all-time. Not only that, but their skills complement each other perfectly: Bird and Magic's selfless team-play, Jordan's killer instinct, Russell's defense and intangibles, Wilt's rebounding (I'd actually prefer the old Lakers Wilt for this team, rather than the young Sixers/Warriors Wilt) and Kareem's unstoppable offense.

stallionaire 02-21-2012 03:54 PM

Re: All-Time Starting team + 6th Man
 
C Shaquille O'Neal
F Tim Duncan
F LeBron James
G Michael Jordan
G Steve Nash


6th - Larry Bird

WillC 02-21-2012 03:56 PM

Re: All-Time Starting team + 6th Man
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stallionaire
C Shaquille O'Neal
F Tim Duncan
F LeBron James
G Michael Jordan
G Steve Nash


6th - Larry Bird


Steve Nash is perhaps my favourite player in the NBA.... but just try to imagine him defending Magic Johnson. That wouldn't be pretty.

swi7ch 02-21-2012 03:57 PM

Re: All-Time Starting team + 6th Man
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arifgokcen
Mine
C-Hakeem
PF-Garnett
SF-Lebron
SG-Jordan
PG-Payton

Lockdown nobody moves:D


not bad

arifgokcen 02-21-2012 03:57 PM

Re: All-Time Starting team + 6th Man
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by La Frescobaldi
no kiddin, that is serious D team right there!!

But you still got another pick - who ya got first off the bench?


Hmm thats a really tough question.Another all time defender that can cover every position on the floor
Dennis Rodman
.I have enough offense in my starting line-up.
Man wow i am loving my all-time team.No pick and roll action against this team.Every player can guard at least 3 positions and rodman off the bench.Wow:roll: :roll: :roll:

arifgokcen 02-21-2012 04:04 PM

Re: All-Time Starting team + 6th Man
 
I think defense and cohesion is much more important than offense.Because you are gonna have enough offense as it is.Everyone is entitled to their opinion however i just wanted point out some facts.
So probably not a good idea to put nash in your lineup because of his awful defense or Bird for his defense and clashing personalities with jordan.Again even though shaq maybe the most dominant player in history he lacks defensive mentality to be included in this team.So i would pick the best defensive-offensive player combinations and look for cohesion among them.
Anyway thats just me

Tmuston Beltics 02-21-2012 04:07 PM

Re: All-Time Starting team + 6th Man
 
Why the lack of Russell in the lists?

pauk 02-21-2012 04:08 PM

Re: All-Time Starting team + 6th Man
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arifgokcen
Mine
C-Hakeem
PF-Garnett
SF-Lebron
SG-Jordan
PG-Payton

Lockdown nobody moves:D


This

DStebb716 02-21-2012 04:10 PM

Re: All-Time Starting team + 6th Man
 
C - Shaquille O'Neal
PF - Tim Duncan
SF - Larry Bird
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Magic Johnson

6th Man: Manu Ginobli (decided it'd be fair to go with the best 6th man ever instead of just another star player that would never sit the bench).

Tmuston Beltics 02-21-2012 04:13 PM

Re: All-Time Starting team + 6th Man
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DStebb716
C - Shaquille O'Neal
PF - Tim Duncan
SF - Larry Bird
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Magic Johnson

6th Man: Manu Ginobli (decided it'd be fair to go with the best 6th man ever instead of just another star player that would never sit the bench).


Lol was reading this and thought of a picture of Manu and his baldness and red it'd be hair.. For some reason :confusedshrug:

La Frescobaldi 02-21-2012 04:19 PM

Re: All-Time Starting team + 6th Man
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tmuston Beltics
Why the lack of Russell in the lists?


I never saw Russell in his glory days of like 1959.

But I saw 3 of these games, and many more by both players.

{I copied this from another thread}

**************************************************
1967 Eastern Division Finals

Game 1.
Russell 20 pts 15 rebs 4 assists
Chamberlain 24 pts 32 rebs 13 assists + 12 blocks

(the blocks were reported by Sports Illustrated.)

That's a Chamberlain quadruple double.

Game 2.

Russell 14 pts 24 rebs 5 asts
Chamberlain 15 pts 29 rebs 5 asts

Game 3
Russell 10 pts 29 rebs 2 asts
Chamberlain 20 pts 41 rebs 9 asts

Chamberlain's 41 rebounds against Russell is the NBA playoff record.

Game 4
Russell 9 pts 28 rebs 5 asts
Chamberlain 20 pts 22 rebs 10 asts

Chamberlain with the triple double against Russell.

Game 5
Russell 4 pts 21 rebs 7 asts
Chamberlain 29 pts 36 rebs 13 asts

Chamberlain with the triple double against Russell.

*****************

Nobody knew about triple double, or quadruple double back then. There was no such thing. Those terms were invented many years later. But that game 5 brought on a debate that has raged for 40 years.

One of my friends marked his scorecard to show Chamberlain with 16 blocks, but another friend had it with only 15. They still argue about it.

But even without knowing what a quadruple double was (and maybe Harvey Pollack knows the answer), it was plain to everyone that Chamberlain had demolished Russell in every possible way.

****************************
Playoff lines:
Russell 11 ppg 23 rpg 4 apg
Chamberlain 21 ppg 32 rpg 10 apg


Wilt Chamberlain averaged a triple double against Bill Russell over the entire series, and had (at least according to Sports Illustrated & some basketball maniacs in the bleachers) 2 quadruple doubles.

******************************************

Russell's teams were stacked, that's why they won. People can say what they want, but that's just fact. After watching Chamberlain thoroughly dismantle Russell in every possible way - and not just in that 67 series, either - he isn't ever going on any of my all-time teams, so sorry.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:35 AM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Terms of Use/Service | Privacy Policy