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knickscity 01-10-2007 08:34 PM

Healthy at last????
 
According to all reports, this should be the very first game with a healthy roster(bye-bye Steve!). So what do you think guys? Here's a couple of questions......

1) Who starts? Personally marbs, crawford, frye, curry, lee.
2) Do you think Nate has learned from this suspension?
3) Can it make Nate a more smarter player? Take the anger to the opponent WITH the ball that is.
4) Can we get a goo win streak going?
5) Can Q-rich be the answer for Curry getting doubled so much?
6) How long can we be healthy?
7) Would you consider giving C-Webb the vet's minimum to teach Frye some post moves?

what do yall think. peace.

bigdaddybluesman 01-10-2007 09:01 PM

I'd like to know why Zeke pulled Frye just when he was hot and they could not cover him?

I'm not saying he did something wrong but he was in a groove and playing good D.

Why pull him for Q. Crawford was doing nothing......pull him for Q.

I don't get it.

Rameek 01-10-2007 09:01 PM

I think the roster getting healthy is good but you would have to get time to mesh... and since the rotation has be fluctuating lately it will take time for Isiah to decide on the best combination of players... Marbury, Curry are the only people we know who will start the other positions and minutes are up for grabs.... You have to give time to the returning players to get into the flow again as well so dont think things automatically will get better or some helluva win streak is going to happen now...

:no: NO C-WEBB they have Mark Aguirre, Kevin Cato, Malik Rose, Herb Williams to teach him post moves and what to do exactly...

knickscity 01-10-2007 11:06 PM

All those guys are primarily centers and they are working with Curry. For the vet's min I don't think you can beat that.

shafir 01-10-2007 11:08 PM

I have no problem with signing Webber, his rebounding would be terrific for these Knicks(even though we already are a great rebounding team, another 8.3 cant hurt) I think Isiah's doing a great job as coach, and I love how QRich helped Curry tonight to beat the Sixers.

knickscity 01-11-2007 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shafir
I have no problem with signing Webber, his rebounding would be terrific for these Knicks(even though we already are a great rebounding team, another 8.3 cant hurt) I think Isiah's doing a great job as coach, and I love how QRich helped Curry tonight to beat the Sixers.


yes he did. Q played great to be off all that time. I felt bad for crawford though. he seemed bothered. But Q made it very hard to double-down on Curry. Making those 5 three pointers.

Don Che 01-11-2007 02:11 AM

Good Win
 
Today was a good win. Philly sucks but they spanked us a couple of weeks ago so a blowout win helps a lot.
Eddy played well(I hate him), so that means a lot
Marbury played well.
We gave away TO's but not enough to lose the game.
Q and Nate looked good.
Did anyone else notice Nate was more controlled?

This roster is too deep but it enables us to play big and small.
Marbury
Q
Lee
Frye
Curry
This line up is big and can out rebound any team in the league.
Marbury
Crawford
Q
Jeffries
Curry
This line up is fast and can out run many line ups
Offensively we would out play ppl since they would have to gaurd Eddy honest and marbury would be encouraged to be aggressive since Eddy can get 20 points with 12 touches.
The problem is the fact that Jeffries cant rebound well enough and Q would struggle with bigger 3's(Pierce, Prince).

I would like us to play big cuz it helps on D but i dunno if Marbury will play well if Crawford doesnt play with him. Certain players play great together and we have to decide which duo has to sit down.

Curry and Crawford
Marbury Crawford
Frye and Lee

These duo's help eachother play the game.
I believe Lee and Frye should start since they work hard and hit the glass...Good help defense and basketball IQ.

Marbury can play well with Q just cuz Q is the best player on our team and accomadates for everyone.

so i go with this rotation.
Eddy
Frye
Lee
Q
Marbury.

Nate
Crawford
Balkman
Jeffries.


Problem with this is..itll be easy to double Curry cuz Lee can't shoot. one shooter wont make it that much better but i feel Lee will become a much better shooter in time and has to gain confidence with himself.

But what Zeke needs to understand is... The best 5 players might win some games...but the best 5 that play TOGETHER win championships.

Don Che 01-11-2007 02:11 AM

Good Win
 
Today was a good win. Philly sucks but they spanked us a couple of weeks ago so a blowout win helps a lot.
Eddy played well(I hate him), so that means a lot
Marbury played well.
We gave away TO's but not enough to lose the game.
Q and Nate looked good.
Did anyone else notice Nate was more controlled?

This roster is too deep but it enables us to play big and small.
Marbury
Q
Lee
Frye
Curry
This line up is big and can out rebound any team in the league.
Marbury
Crawford
Q
Jeffries
Curry
This line up is fast and can out run many line ups
Offensively we would out play ppl since they would have to gaurd Eddy honest and marbury would be encouraged to be aggressive since Eddy can get 20 points with 12 touches.
The problem is the fact that Jeffries cant rebound well enough and Q would struggle with bigger 3's(Pierce, Prince).

I would like us to play big cuz it helps on D but i dunno if Marbury will play well if Crawford doesnt play with him. Certain players play great together and we have to decide which duo has to sit down.

Curry and Crawford
Marbury Crawford
Frye and Lee

These duo's help eachother play the game.
I believe Lee and Frye should start since they work hard and hit the glass...Good help defense and basketball IQ.

Marbury can play well with Q just cuz Q is the best player on our team and accomadates for everyone.

so i go with this rotation.
Eddy
Frye
Lee
Q
Marbury.

Nate
Crawford
Balkman
Jeffries.


Problem with this is..itll be easy to double Curry cuz Lee can't shoot. one shooter wont make it that much better but i feel Lee will become a much better shooter in time and has to gain confidence with himself.

But what Zeke needs to understand is... The best 5 players might win some games...but the best 5 that play TOGETHER win championships.

Don Che 01-11-2007 02:11 AM

Good Win
 
Today was a good win. Philly sucks but they spanked us a couple of weeks ago so a blowout win helps a lot.
Eddy played well(I hate him), so that means a lot
Marbury played well.
We gave away TO's but not enough to lose the game.
Q and Nate looked good.
Did anyone else notice Nate was more controlled?

This roster is too deep but it enables us to play big and small.
Marbury
Q
Lee
Frye
Curry
This line up is big and can out rebound any team in the league.
Marbury
Crawford
Q
Jeffries
Curry
This line up is fast and can out run many line ups
Offensively we would out play ppl since they would have to gaurd Eddy honest and marbury would be encouraged to be aggressive since Eddy can get 20 points with 12 touches.
The problem is the fact that Jeffries cant rebound well enough and Q would struggle with bigger 3's(Pierce, Prince).

I would like us to play big cuz it helps on D but i dunno if Marbury will play well if Crawford doesnt play with him. Certain players play great together and we have to decide which duo has to sit down.

Curry and Crawford
Marbury Crawford
Frye and Lee

These duo's help eachother play the game.
I believe Lee and Frye should start since they work hard and hit the glass...Good help defense and basketball IQ.

Marbury can play well with Q just cuz Q is the best player on our team and accomadates for everyone.

so i go with this rotation.
Eddy
Frye
Lee
Q
Marbury.

Nate
Crawford
Balkman
Jeffries.


Problem with this is..itll be easy to double Curry cuz Lee can't shoot. one shooter wont make it that much better but i feel Lee will become a much better shooter in time and has to gain confidence with himself.

But what Zeke needs to understand is... The best 5 players might win some games...but the best 5 that play TOGETHER win championships.

Don Che 01-11-2007 02:11 AM

Good Win
 
Today was a good win. Philly sucks but they spanked us a couple of weeks ago so a blowout win helps a lot.
Eddy played well(I hate him), so that means a lot
Marbury played well.
We gave away TO's but not enough to lose the game.
Q and Nate looked good.
Did anyone else notice Nate was more controlled?

This roster is too deep but it enables us to play big and small.
Marbury
Q
Lee
Frye
Curry
This line up is big and can out rebound any team in the league.
Marbury
Crawford
Q
Jeffries
Curry
This line up is fast and can out run many line ups
Offensively we would out play ppl since they would have to gaurd Eddy honest and marbury would be encouraged to be aggressive since Eddy can get 20 points with 12 touches.
The problem is the fact that Jeffries cant rebound well enough and Q would struggle with bigger 3's(Pierce, Prince).

I would like us to play big cuz it helps on D but i dunno if Marbury will play well if Crawford doesnt play with him. Certain players play great together and we have to decide which duo has to sit down.

Curry and Crawford
Marbury Crawford
Frye and Lee

These duo's help eachother play the game.
I believe Lee and Frye should start since they work hard and hit the glass...Good help defense and basketball IQ.

Marbury can play well with Q just cuz Q is the best player on our team and accomadates for everyone.

so i go with this rotation.
Eddy
Frye
Lee
Q
Marbury.

Nate
Crawford
Balkman
Jeffries.


Problem with this is..itll be easy to double Curry cuz Lee can't shoot. one shooter wont make it that much better but i feel Lee will become a much better shooter in time and has to gain confidence with himself.

But what Zeke needs to understand is... The best 5 players might win some games...but the best 5 that play TOGETHER win championships.

Don Che 01-11-2007 02:12 AM

Good Win
 
Today was a good win. Philly sucks but they spanked us a couple of weeks ago so a blowout win helps a lot.
Eddy played well(I hate him), so that means a lot
Marbury played well.
We gave away TO's but not enough to lose the game.
Q and Nate looked good.
Did anyone else notice Nate was more controlled?

This roster is too deep but it enables us to play big and small.
Marbury
Q
Lee
Frye
Curry
This line up is big and can out rebound any team in the league.
Marbury
Crawford
Q
Jeffries
Curry
This line up is fast and can out run many line ups
Offensively we would out play ppl since they would have to gaurd Eddy honest and marbury would be encouraged to be aggressive since Eddy can get 20 points with 12 touches.
The problem is the fact that Jeffries cant rebound well enough and Q would struggle with bigger 3's(Pierce, Prince).

I would like us to play big cuz it helps on D but i dunno if Marbury will play well if Crawford doesnt play with him. Certain players play great together and we have to decide which duo has to sit down.

Curry and Crawford
Marbury Crawford
Frye and Lee

These duo's help eachother play the game.
I believe Lee and Frye should start since they work hard and hit the glass...Good help defense and basketball IQ.

Marbury can play well with Q just cuz Q is the best player on our team and accomadates for everyone.

so i go with this rotation.
Eddy
Frye
Lee
Q
Marbury.

Nate
Crawford
Balkman
Jeffries.


Problem with this is..itll be easy to double Curry cuz Lee can't shoot. one shooter wont make it that much better but i feel Lee will become a much better shooter in time and has to gain confidence with himself.

But what Zeke needs to understand is... The best 5 players might win some games...but the best 5 that play TOGETHER win championships.

bigdaddybluesman 01-11-2007 08:13 AM

I agree
I agree
I agree
I agree

Gotta watch that reply button.

HaNdLe ThE RoCk 01-11-2007 09:49 AM

When teams start to double curry i like this lineup.

Center - Eddy Curry
Foward- David Lee
Foward- Quentin Richardson
Gaurd- Jamal Crawford
Point- Marbury

This is todays starting lineup.

Center- Eddy Curry
Foward- Frye
Foward- Jeffries
Gaurd- Jamal
Gaurd- Marbury

I like Lee coming off the bench and giving that spark, i'd like Q-Rich to start though.

ChanningShamgod 01-11-2007 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaNdLe ThE RoCk
When teams start to double curry i like this lineup.

Center - Eddy Curry
Foward- David Lee
Foward- Quentin Richardson
Gaurd- Jamal Crawford
Point- Marbury

This is todays starting lineup.

Center- Eddy Curry
Foward- Frye
Foward- Jeffries
Gaurd- Jamal
Gaurd- Marbury

I like Lee coming off the bench and giving that spark, i'd like Q-Rich to start though.


Richardson starting makes too much sense. I hate Crawford starting at the 2. He can't play defense! I think we all feel the same way about this though.

jlawdrummer 01-11-2007 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Che
Today was a good win. Philly sucks but they spanked us a couple of weeks ago so a blowout win helps a lot.
Eddy played well(I hate him), so that means a lot
Marbury played well.
We gave away TO's but not enough to lose the game.
Q and Nate looked good.
Did anyone else notice Nate was more controlled?

This roster is too deep but it enables us to play big and small.
Marbury
Q
Lee
Frye
Curry
This line up is big and can out rebound any team in the league.
Marbury
Crawford
Q
Jeffries
Curry
This line up is fast and can out run many line ups
Offensively we would out play ppl since they would have to gaurd Eddy honest and marbury would be encouraged to be aggressive since Eddy can get 20 points with 12 touches.
The problem is the fact that Jeffries cant rebound well enough and Q would struggle with bigger 3's(Pierce, Prince).

I would like us to play big cuz it helps on D but i dunno if Marbury will play well if Crawford doesnt play with him. Certain players play great together and we have to decide which duo has to sit down.

Curry and Crawford
Marbury Crawford
Frye and Lee

These duo's help eachother play the game.
I believe Lee and Frye should start since they work hard and hit the glass...Good help defense and basketball IQ.

Marbury can play well with Q just cuz Q is the best player on our team and accomadates for everyone.

so i go with this rotation.
Eddy
Frye
Lee
Q
Marbury.

Nate
Crawford
Balkman
Jeffries.


Problem with this is..itll be easy to double Curry cuz Lee can't shoot. one shooter wont make it that much better but i feel Lee will become a much better shooter in time and has to gain confidence with himself.

But what Zeke needs to understand is... The best 5 players might win some games...but the best 5 that play TOGETHER win championships.



honestly, you can't forget about frye as a shooter. He showed he is a great shooter, and he was draining shots from all over the court last night. Don't count out Channing as a shooter, and then with frye, Qrich, and occasional marbury(when he's open he can hit it), they do have shooters. Sure it's not Allan Houston, but they can shoot.


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