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Godzuki 05-16-2012 01:23 AM

So Kobe doesn't take charges? and MJ and Magic never did either?
 
Is that true? I would've sworn MJ did at least...

Article on Kobe Bryant discussing not taking charges, and why:

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=9981

WeGetRing2012 05-16-2012 01:25 AM

Re: So Kobe doesn't take charges? and MJ and Magic never did either?
 
Plagiarism. BAN!!!!

chazzy 05-16-2012 01:25 AM

Re: So Kobe doesn't take charges? and MJ and Magic never did either?
 
He rarely takes charges, sucks at it :lol

AngelEyes 05-16-2012 01:26 AM

Re: So Kobe doesn't take charges? and MJ and Magic never did either?
 
Why would you want him taking charges?

inclinerator 05-16-2012 01:28 AM

Re: So Kobe doesn't take charges? and MJ and Magic never did either?
 
mj does take charges

iamgine 05-16-2012 01:35 AM

Re: So Kobe doesn't take charges? and MJ and Magic never did either?
 
Bird and Pippen took charges and had bad backs. Are taking charges and bad backs related at all?

But we really shouldn't look at them. We should look at the league's top charge takers and whether they have back problems more often than non charge takers.

Leading 2006-07 NBA Players in drawing Offensive Fouls


1 CLE Varejao 99
2 DAL Harris 77
3 MIL Bogut 74
4 PHO Bell 72
5 GSW Ellis 64
6 PHO Nash 62
7 IND O'Neal 57
8 CHI Nocioni 50
9 HOU Battier 50
10 Gs/Ind Dunleavy 49
11 MIA Posey 46
12 NJN Collins 45
13 UTA Fisher 45
14 CHI Wallace 44
15 Phi/Den Iverson 43
16 Den/Phi Joe.Smith 43
17 NOK Mason 42
18 CHI Hinrich 40
19 NJN Moore 37
20 LAL Parker 37
21 CHA Wallace 36
22 NJN Nachbar 35
23 DAL Howard 35
24 WAS Daniels 34
25 MIA Haslem 34
26 IND Harrington 34
27 TOR Parker 33
28 TOR Bosh 33
29 NJN Carter 32
30 SAS Oberto 31
31 SAS Ginobili 31
32 SAS Bowen 31
33 PHO Barbosa 31
34 SAC Martin 31
35 UTA Collins 31

Do these players have bad backs?

andgar923 05-16-2012 02:19 AM

Re: So Kobe doesn't take charges? and MJ and Magic never did either?
 
is this real?

I<3NBA 05-16-2012 02:21 AM

Re: So Kobe doesn't take charges? and MJ and Magic never did either?
 
omg Nash has a bad back! it's true! taking charges will mess up your back!


never mind that there are 34 other players that are not bothered by it.



btw, i look down on taking charges for the simple fact that if the player falls down and the refs don't call it, the opponent gets an open shot with the defender on the floor. forces your team mates to close out the open man and leave somebody open and just generally fk up your defense.

not to mention it can go the other way and you are called for blocking. seems like a bad strategy if your players really aren't good at taking charges.

BallsOut 05-16-2012 02:26 AM

Re: So Kobe doesn't take charges? and MJ and Magic never did either?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iamgine
Bird and Pippen took charges and had bad backs. Are taking charges and bad backs related at all?

But we really shouldn't look at them. We should look at the league's top charge takers and whether they have back problems more often than non charge takers.

Leading 2006-07 NBA Players in drawing Offensive Fouls


1 CLE Varejao 99
2 DAL Harris 77
3 MIL Bogut 74
4 PHO Bell 72
5 GSW Ellis 64
6 PHO Nash 62
7 IND O'Neal 57
8 CHI Nocioni 50
9 HOU Battier 50
10 Gs/Ind Dunleavy 49
11 MIA Posey 46
12 NJN Collins 45
13 UTA Fisher 45
14 CHI Wallace 44
15 Phi/Den Iverson 43
16 Den/Phi Joe.Smith 43
17 NOK Mason 42
18 CHI Hinrich 40
19 NJN Moore 37
20 LAL Parker 37
21 CHA Wallace 36
22 NJN Nachbar 35
23 DAL Howard 35
24 WAS Daniels 34
25 MIA Haslem 34
26 IND Harrington 34
27 TOR Parker 33
28 TOR Bosh 33
29 NJN Carter 32
30 SAS Oberto 31
31 SAS Ginobili 31
32 SAS Bowen 31
33 PHO Barbosa 31
34 SAC Martin 31
35 UTA Collins 31

Do these players have bad backs?


Bolded are players who have experienced back related problems/injuries off the top of my head. Kobe may be on to something here :eek:

I<3NBA 05-16-2012 02:41 AM

Re: So Kobe doesn't take charges? and MJ and Magic never did either?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BallsOut
Bolded are players who have experienced back related problems/injuries off the top of my head. Kobe may be on to something here :eek:

9 out of 35 for 25.7% is really low. other extraneous factors are also not taken into account. for all we know, it could be diet or conditioning more than taking charges.

Xiao Yao You 05-16-2012 02:43 AM

Re: So Kobe doesn't take charges? and MJ and Magic never did either?
 
Bird dove all over the floor. His bad back probably came from the reckless abandon he played the game with.

The_Yearning 05-16-2012 02:48 AM

Re: So Kobe doesn't take charges? and MJ and Magic never did either?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iamgine
Bird and Pippen took charges and had bad backs. Are taking charges and bad backs related at all?

But we really shouldn't look at them. We should look at the league's top charge takers and whether they have back problems more often than non charge takers.

Leading 2006-07 NBA Players in drawing Offensive Fouls


1 CLE Varejao 99
2 DAL Harris 77
3 MIL Bogut 74
4 PHO Bell 72
5 GSW Ellis 64
6 PHO Nash 62
7 IND O'Neal 57
8 CHI Nocioni 50
9 HOU Battier 50
10 Gs/Ind Dunleavy 49
11 MIA Posey 46
12 NJN Collins 45
13 UTA Fisher 45
14 CHI Wallace 44
15 Phi/Den Iverson 43
16 Den/Phi Joe.Smith 43
17 NOK Mason 42
18 CHI Hinrich 40
19 NJN Moore 37
20 LAL Parker 37
21 CHA Wallace 36
22 NJN Nachbar 35
23 DAL Howard 35
24 WAS Daniels 34
25 MIA Haslem 34
26 IND Harrington 34
27 TOR Parker 33
28 TOR Bosh 33
29 NJN Carter 32
30 SAS Oberto 31
31 SAS Ginobili 31
32 SAS Bowen 31
33 PHO Barbosa 31
34 SAC Martin 31
35 UTA Collins 31

Do these players have bad backs?


This is drawing offensive fouls. Not all of these players get them by taking charges. Show me a video of Kevin Martin taking a charge. Lol even Smush Parker is up there... get the hell outta here with this list.

Kobe 4 The Win 05-16-2012 02:54 AM

Re: So Kobe doesn't take charges? and MJ and Magic never did either?
 
I agree. A lot of floppers are the ones who are good at taking charges(ahem, Derek Fisher). Why risk getting hurt plus if you don't get the call you have taken yourself out of the play. Stay on your feet and just contest the damn shot.

Myth 05-16-2012 03:02 AM

Re: So Kobe doesn't take charges? and MJ and Magic never did either?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by I<3NBA
9 out of 35 for 25.7% is really low.


I don't consider that low. I'd like to see a comparable list of players who play a equal amounts of ball but take less charges and see what their % is.

tpols 05-16-2012 03:04 AM

Re: So Kobe doesn't take charges? and MJ and Magic never did either?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by I<3NBA
9 out of 35 for 25.7% is really low. other extraneous factors are also not taken into account. for all we know, it could be diet or conditioning more than taking charges.

5 out of the top 8 have problems..


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