The O-F-F-I-C-I-A-L FIRE BC THREAD!!!!
 

What a moron of a general manager!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle4393527/

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In terms of signing Nash, what else do you want him to do, his contract offer was $11 million more than what Nash accepted with LA for the same number of years. :confusedshrug:

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why you want to fire BC ?? you're lil beastnani only because this guy brought him here.. you should thank him

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It has little to do with the Nash thing. We should've never been at the point where a 38 year old Steve Nash is supposed to be our saving grace. Let alone going "all in" for him. Why would I thank a guy who does throughout his tenure in Toronto has shown time and time again that he doesn't know how to construct a winning roster. Give me a break.

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I keep hearing 'fire bc', and I'm all for it. But who's on the radar to replace him?

Good gm's are by no means a dime a dozen...

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Another reason?

According to sources, one team considering making an offer to Brandon Rush is the Toronto Raptors, who had hoped to sign Nash. The Raptors had allocated significant money to Nash and now will look elsewhere – and perhaps toward Rush.


http://www.csnbayarea.com/basketball...66&feedID=5986

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I think its all the moves he made up to this point in preparing to sign Nash, and then having it blown back in his face.

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On Colangelo:

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I don't care who we replace him with, the point is he needs to be replaced ASAP. I rarely say this but I agree with beastnani here. If our best reason for keeping him is that we don't know who we're gonna replace him with, then get rid of him. Finding a GM or a coach is not like finding a superstar basketball player. You throw enough money out there, and they will come running. The guy is paid handsomely at 5 mill/year which is well above the average for the position. And if your response to that would be "well why would we want to pay 5 mill for another guy who is unproven." And there would be a simple answer to that. We don't. If we find a guy who is as established as BC was pre Toronto we pay him accordingly. If we don't (as has been suggested by many others on this forum) we try and coup a young GM who has worked under an established vet and pay him less but give him the chance to prove himself. Worst case scenario either way new guy, new ideas, new game plan. It couldn't get or be any worse.

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FYI though BC's contract is up this year, hence the reason he wanted to "accelerate the process." Accelerate the process is code for "SAVE MY ASS." Good luck convincing MLSE that they need to keep him on board any longer to rebuild the franchise that he has actually made WORSE since he got here. He lost his chance at Nash, which was essentially his get out of jail free card. Fans would've packed the ACC just to see him, revenue would've gone up, we'd have made the playoffs, money in their pockets everyone's happy, BC gets another deal. Now in addition to sucking, our attendance will remain low and our future bleak (aside from Val). So i'm happy it fell through because I see BC being gone in the near future.

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I'm just not comfortable with Stefanski taking over if Colangelo gets canned. Which will probably be what happens. I wish we would've picked up Kevin Pritchard before he went to the Pacers. I like the way he builds teams.

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Hear what your saying and good points all around. I just don't want to end up with another one of these guys ...



Zero swag......

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Everyone talks about how bad Babcock was, and yes he was bad but the situation BC came into was far more adventageous than his. VC was disgruntled because of previous moves that were made by Glen Grunwald and was unhappy with the Babcock signing prior to any moves being made due to the fact that he wanted Dr. J as the GM and wasn't consulted. So the situation he stepped into was one where his all-star/superstar player made it known up front that he wasn't all in and in fact wanted out, ala Dwight Howard. So he ultimately succomed to the pressure.

BC on the other hand stepped into a situation where Babcock had provided the capspace by trading Carter, we lucked into a #1 draft pick, he had a happy all-star. From there, he was in the drivers seat. A chance to build and mold us into a true contender with all the tools he needed to do it. And he failed, I feel moreso than any GM we've had in our history, but yet he's given by far the biggest rope due to the prestige of the Colangelo name.

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An average GM would be a huge upgrade on the fool we have now.

I find the 'we couldn't find anyone better' argument for keeping Colangelo ridiculous. He's been an abject failure. I'd take virtually every other GM or assistant GM who has worked in the NBA in the last ten years over Colangelo after what he's done to the franchise (I say 'virtually' largely because of Isiah Thomas). And there must be dozens of iconic ex-NBA stars and hundreds of bright sports scientists who could do the job: it's just a matter of firing Colangelo and starting a thorough search and interview process.

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This is why bad teams remain bad regardless of the opportunities handed down to them. A team that has great management and long term outlook always tends to be successful in the long run. The Raptors just do not have good management. We keep making mistakes after mistakes mainly because we do not have a good outlook towards the future. I am not sure if ownership does not allow the GM's/President enough liberty to make decisions or what?

This team is just a mess all around. I am glad I have been busy and not in the mix of WTF is happening around in the NBA and especially with the Raptors these days.

My main question is why was BC investing soo much in Steve Nash? We sholud have never ever been in the run to sign Steve Nash. I love Nash and consider him a HOFmer. The guy is awesome BUT he does not and should not fit into the plan the raptors should be having right now. If I am looking at it in terms of teh Toronto Raptors, I am in a rebuilding mode. I do not need an aging 38 y/o pg towards the end of his career. What will nash give us besides sell Jerseys for a year? In my view, it was a horrendous and extremely miscalculated decision by BC to go after Steve Nash. This alone would have been a good reason to fire the guy.

And now if I am Steve Nash. Why would i sign with the raptors? I have accomplished everything I need to and have the money. I need to win a championship by being a pivotal part of a team. If I feel I have two more years left in me, I am going to a contending team with established stars that will help me win a championship. No way in hell am I coming to a team like the raptors just because they belong to a city in my country. (BTW, Nash' family is in the US and I believe he is from western canada....not toronto...). Besides, Nash has played for the Canadian team and done enough. He should not be asked to prove his loyalty by joining such a lousy team.

whatever....just after reading all of the threads here, i am further convinced that BC needs to go now. This guy has no vision and is going to ruin everything for us. I am seriously comparing the guy to Isiah Thomas with the knicks now. Just a royal mess. Absolute mess.

I look forward to us competing next year though. I feel V. is going to be good and we may do a little better and compete for the 8th spot next year. Only because we will be surprising everyone.