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jody 01-24-2007 12:40 PM

what was joe johnson thinking leaving the suns?
 
from one of the best teams to one of the worst. was the extra money that important? i hope it was worth it.

Skywalker 01-24-2007 12:42 PM

he was thinking he could get a max contract and score like 30 ppg

and what's he doing? just that. you have to figure they'll be good sooner or later with all those lotto picks.

Smokee 01-24-2007 12:43 PM

yeh he wanted to be a star. earlier he didnt get the recognition/respect hes getting now. you need to make a name for yourself first and get paid before worrying bout winning. at least thats how id do it :pimp:

Younggrease 01-24-2007 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jody
from one of the best teams to one of the worst. was the extra money that important? i hope it was worth it.


yes it was.... Sorry there are more important things in life than winning an NBA championship. Plus Phoenix cant afford him

braden. 01-24-2007 12:46 PM

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what was joe johnson thinking leaving the suns?
$?

saKf 01-24-2007 12:52 PM

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what was joe johnson thinking leaving the suns?
If I remember correctly, the role was a little more of an issue than the money.

Johnson wanted to go to a team where he could be more than the third option he was in Phoenix, which I suppose is understandable.

He's obviously got a lot of ability, and he's putting it to full use in Atlanta. He just shouldn't have picked a team with such freaking idiotic management.

The Mamba 01-24-2007 12:53 PM

Because he's set financially for the rest of his life, and gets to prove his ability as one of the best players in the game, instead of being a role player.

jamoore 01-24-2007 12:53 PM

Yeah, JJ made his money and did the smart thing, the thing we all probably would have done.

But as a hoop fan it is disheartening. JJ may be the one missing player keeping this Suns team from an NBA title.

Plus, Atlanta is going nowhere fast. Josh Childress, Salim Stoudamire, Marvin Williams and Speedy Claxton are duds. Josh Smith still doesn't have a jumper. Sheldon Williams is still a rookie. This isn't the market JJ should have went to. Go to New York, where you can lose and still make front page news.

Kemosabe 01-24-2007 01:00 PM

This trade was good for both teams: Suns got rid of a non-happy player that wanted a big contract and got a very interesting all-around player in Diaw plus the picks...

statman32 01-24-2007 01:00 PM

the suns were willing to give him the same amount of money as the hawks....the whole situation was handled badly on both sides

saKf 01-24-2007 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jamoore
Yeah, JJ made his money and did the smart thing, the thing we all probably would have done.

But as a hoop fan it is disheartening. JJ may be the one missing player keeping this Suns team from an NBA title.

Plus, Atlanta is going nowhere fast. Josh Childress, Salim Stoudamire, Marvin Williams and Speedy Claxton are duds. Josh Smith still doesn't have a jumper. Sheldon Williams is still a rookie. This isn't the market JJ should have went to. Go to New York, where you can lose and still make front page news.

Childress isn't a dud, he's probably just best suited as the first swingman off the bench. Sure, that's not what they drafted him to be, but it doesn't make him a dud. Claxton's another story. Awful.

boozehound 01-24-2007 01:06 PM

the suns are better off without him and with diaw. Where would they have been last year without diaw's positional versatility and the injuries to Stat and KT?
Even after they picked up thomas they wouldve been brutalized in the frontcourt without diaw. Can you imagine patty Burke starting?

They are a much better team with Diaw, better passer (at least out of the post and so forth) and does all teh littl ethings PHX needs not more points.

boozehound 01-24-2007 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by saKf
Childress isn't a dud, he's probably just best suited as the first swingman off the bench. Sure, that's not what they drafted him to be, but it doesn't make him a dud. Claxton's another story. Awful.

wasnt claxton a dud years ago? I know he elevated his game last year behind paul but man they fell for it in ATL.

jamoore 01-24-2007 01:07 PM

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Childress isn't a dud, he's probably just best suited as the first swingman off the bench

True. Only thing is, the Hawks aren't a good enough team to have a one dimensional scorer off the bench. Plus, Childress is a defensive liability. If we were talking San Antonio or Dallas, Childress would be a bit more valuable.

jamoore 01-24-2007 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by boozehound
the suns are better off without him and with diaw. Where would they have been last year without diaw's positional versatility and the injuries to Stat and KT?
Even after they picked up thomas they wouldve been brutalized in the frontcourt without diaw. Can you imagine patty Burke starting?

They are a much better team with Diaw, better passer (at least out of the post and so forth) and does all teh littl ethings PHX needs not more points.


The Suns need another wingman who can create his own offense. Diaw isn't that guy, and since Nash is the only Sun who can create his own offense, that puts him under too much pressue to do EVERYTHING come crunch time. At least that was the case last year. With Amare, things are a bit different this year. But last year, JJ's scoring would have been a huge lift in the playoffs.


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