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UConnCeltics 08-24-2012 02:50 PM

ESPN 50 in 50
 
ESPN ranked the top 50 programs of the past 50 years... what do you guys think? The order:

1. UNC
2. UCLA
3. Kentucky
4. Duke
5. Kansas
6. Louisville
7. Indiana
8. Syracuse
9. Connecticut
10. Arizona
11. Michigan State
12. Georgetown
13. Michigan
14. UNLV
15. Ohio State
16. Villanova
17. Marquette
18. Temple
19. Memphis
20. Purdue (Tie)
20. Utah (Tie)
22. Princeton (Tie)
22. Pennsylvania (Tie)
24. Cincinnati
25. Arkansas
26. Texas
27. Maryland
28. Murray State
29. Notre Dame
30. Western Kentucky
31. Gonzaga (Tie)
31. Oklahoma (Tie)
33. Illinois
34. Xavier
35. Houston
36. BYU
37. Missouri
38. Kansas State
39. Weber State
40. Florida (Tie)
40. St. John's (Tie)
40. Saint Joseph's (Tie)
43. NC State
44. Davidson
45. DePaul
46. UTEP
47. Alabama
48. LSU
49. San Francisco
50. Boston College

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebaske...eries/count/46

sunsfan1357 08-24-2012 05:49 PM

Re: ESPN 50 in 50
 
All the Illinois fans here are gonna be mad.

SourPatchKids 08-24-2012 08:06 PM

Re: ESPN 50 in 50
 
lol DePaul

TheSilentKiller 08-24-2012 11:30 PM

Re: ESPN 50 in 50
 
I have really only paid attention to college basketball the last 5-10 years, but the big one that surprised me was UNLV.

bballer 08-25-2012 03:57 AM

Re: ESPN 50 in 50
 
TAR..........HEEEEEEELS!!!!!!

srs GOAT college bball team

InspiredLebowski 08-25-2012 04:27 AM

Re: ESPN 50 in 50
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bballer
TAR..........HEEEEEEELS!!!!!!

srs GOAT college bball team

until the NCAA quits ****ing around and actually investigates their academics

ukfan22 08-25-2012 06:16 AM

Re: ESPN 50 in 50
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bballer
TAR..........HEEEEEEELS!!!!!!

srs GOAT college bball team


nope

bootsy 08-25-2012 03:19 PM

Re: ESPN 50 in 50
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunsfan1357
All the Illinois fans here are gonna be mad.

Yeah because it's a bullshit list with bullshit rationale. So are you gonna tell me Penn, Princeton, Purdue, , Murray St, Western Ky, Gonzaga have been better programs in the last 50 year than Illinois because they won their (weaker) conferences billions of times? I'll answer for you: NO.

Is Illinois a top of the line program along with Kansas, UK, Duke, UCLA, etc. No way but they are definitely not lower than those schools I just mentioned.

InspiredLebowski 08-25-2012 04:03 PM

Re: ESPN 50 in 50
 
Purdue's in a weaker conference than Illinois?

UConnCeltics 08-25-2012 04:09 PM

Re: ESPN 50 in 50
 
In my opinion, Illinois is somewhere below Ohio State but above Purdue. So I see them as the third best program and 18/19 when viewing them as an all time program.

bootsy 08-25-2012 05:02 PM

Re: ESPN 50 in 50
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by InspiredLebowski
Purdue's in a weaker conference than Illinois?

I originally put Purdue in their not because they are in a weaker conference but because I feel they shouldn't be ahead of Illinois either. I just forgot to take them out of that group of programs I mentioned. Just a mistake but doesn't exclude the fact that I don't think they are a better program than Illinois. Especially that much better than what the list produced. They are 13 spots higher than Illinois.

SourPatchKids 08-25-2012 06:58 PM

Re: ESPN 50 in 50
 
What is the history of Temple basketball and why do they deserve the no. 18 spot? I'll let ISH educate me instead of google.

InspiredLebowski 08-25-2012 09:22 PM

Re: ESPN 50 in 50
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bootsy
I originally put Purdue in their not because they are in a weaker conference but because I feel they shouldn't be ahead of Illinois either. I just forgot to take them out of that group of programs I mentioned. Just a mistake but doesn't exclude the fact that I don't think they are a better program than Illinois. Especially that much better than what the list produced. They are 13 spots higher than Illinois.

That's fine. 13 spots probably is too much, but it's what their (stupid) formula produced. I think they're remarkably similar programs.

KG215 08-25-2012 10:50 PM

Re: ESPN 50 in 50
 
They were talking about this on sports talk radio a couple of days ago (Arkansas) and mentioned why Arkansas was lower than fans think they should be. No idea how they did the scoring or whatever, but apparently they had them ranked really low (like 200s or 300s) from '62-'69 and in the 140s from '00-present. That 20ish year stretch from the mid-70s through the mid-90s, if you just looked at those, they'd probably be a top 15 or borderline top 20 program.

Really is sad that they've been this mediocre and bad for 15+ years now. So much potential to be a perennial top 10-15 program. The Nolan Richardson falling-out really set the program back big time, though. Should've had him still coaching until 2005ish with Mike Anderson ready to step-in and take his place the following season instead of having that decade long stretch where it was nothing but shit coaches and mediocre teams after Richardson kinda sorta got himself fired.

IGotACoolStory 08-26-2012 02:47 AM

Re: ESPN 50 in 50
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by InspiredLebowski
until the NCAA quits ****ing around and actually investigates their academics


None of which has ties to the basketball program right now.

If it does? It wouldn't completely shock me. I bet nearly every major program has something similar. You always see recruits (particularly in football) go JC because of grades and then struggle to and extent there... Then miraculously they make the Dean's List at the university for the next 3-4 years.


There's a formula so I don't know how you can argue the results unless you disagree with the way they were come to. I am a little surprised how much separation UNC and UCLA have from 3+. And it's just sad that Indiana isn't with the rest of the blue bloods. :facepalm One spot be it.

Kind of surprised Princeton is so high. And Murray State, who I honestly don't remember before the past couple seasons...

The rest seems rather accurate to perception.


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