Anyone who votes for Oscar over West deserves to be mauled by a Siberian tiger.
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Anyone who votes for Oscar over West deserves to be mauled by a Siberian tiger.
[QUOTE=DTreats]Isaiah Thomas[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
[QUOTE=chips93]do these bolded really matter? or are they just a product of being on deep and talented teams, and being a popular figure?[/QUOTE]
Grant it being voted in is due to popularity and it's more of a materialistic item, but the best do tend to achieve these monuments. It's not a huge case, but it's a case.
Making the playoffs your whole career is definately a notable accomplishment. Considering the players you named, if Julius wasn't there they'd go nowhere. Comparing the depth of the team you can say Julius had a little more depth but the team with Elgin Baylor is overall better. It's like comparing 2001 Lakers to the 2001 Blazers.
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he made 0.1 threes per game in his career, and had a career high of 0.4 threes made per game
he wasnt a three point shooter. at all.[/QUOTE]
I'm not claiming he was a 3 point shooter, I'm just stating that he had the capability.
[QUOTE=DaHeezy]
Making the playoffs your whole career is definitely a notable accomplishment. Considering the players you named, if Julius wasn't there they'd go nowhere. Comparing the depth of the team you can say Julius had a little more depth but the team with Elgin Baylor is overall better. It's like comparing 2001 Lakers to the 2001 Blazers.
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oh, definitely, but julius still played on some very talented rosters
Elgin Baylor
Oscar
[QUOTE=Gifted Mind]:facepalm[/QUOTE]
What is so strange? He should be top 20. I'd put him at 15.
[QUOTE=fsvr54]What is so strange? He should be top 20. I'd put him at 15.[/QUOTE]
It isn't too far fetched considering some rank him the second greatest PG of all-time
[QUOTE=fsvr54]What is so strange? He should be top 20. I'd put him at 15.[/QUOTE]
The strange part was Jerry West and Oscar Robertson were possible choices
Isiah
West
[QUOTE=chips93]do these bolded really matter? or are they just a product of being on deep and talented teams, and being a popular figure?
:biggums:
he made 0.1 threes per game in his career, and had a career high of 0.4 threes made per game
he wasnt a three point shooter. at all.
he has played with some great players
doug collins, world b free, caldwell jones, daryl dawkins, bobby jones, mo cheeks, andrew toney
not all-world kinda talent, but still, he had plenty of help
i think the only justification for having the doctor this high, is if you really value how he revolutionised the game, from dunking, to being such a huge part of the aba, and to being one of the first black superstars embraced by america. what he did for the game.
i vote for [B]oscar robertson[/B][/QUOTE]
I vote for oscar also. BUt if you think all Doc did was dunk you must have never seen him play. He was unstoppable.Did you mention Caldwell Jones
:coleman:
the big o
Jerry West
Oscar put Oscar on them West Laker teams they beat the Celtics at least once