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Deuce Bigalow 09-15-2012 07:03 PM

#35 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
 
Clyde Drexler was voted the #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops.

21.3 PPG | 6.4 RPG | 5.9 APG

NBA Champion
10 NBA All-Star
All-NBA First Team
2 All-NBA Second Team
2 All-NBA Third Team



Quote:

#34 NBA Player Of All-Time Voting

6- Clyde Drexler
5- Elvin Hayes
5- Steve Nash
4- Dave Cowens
4- Dolph Schayes
3- Bill Walton
2- Nate Thurmond
1- Paul Pierce
1- Bob McAdoo
1- George Gervin
1- Pete Maravich
1- Allen Iverson
1- Kevin McHale
1- Dennis Rodman
1- Gary Payton


1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Kobe Bryant
9. Tim Duncan
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
11. Lebron James
12. Moses Malone
13. Oscar Robertson
14. Jerry West
15. Julius Erving
16. Kevin Garnett
17. Karl Malone
18. Charles Barkley
19. Elgin Baylor
20. Bob Pettit
21. John Havlicek
22. Dirk Nowitzki
23. George Mikan
24. David Robinson
25. Isiah Thomas
26. Bob Cousy
27. Scottie Pippen
28. Rick Barry
29. Dwyane Wade
30. Willis Reed
31. Patrick Ewing
32. John Stockton
33. Walt Frazier
34. Clyde Drexler

StateOfMind12 09-15-2012 07:05 PM

Re: #35 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
 
Vote - Steve Nash. He is the 4th GOAT PG behind Frazier, Oscar, and Magic. He was better than Isiah, Stockton, etc. to me.

WillC 09-15-2012 07:06 PM

Re: #35 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
 
Drexler? Oh dear. Five to ten places too early, at the expense of more deserving players.

Lots of worthy players to choose from, but I'm going with Dolph Schayes here.

upside24 09-15-2012 07:07 PM

Re: #35 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
 
Nash.

Deuce Bigalow 09-15-2012 07:11 PM

Re: #35 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillC
Drexler? Oh dear. Five to ten places too early, at the expense of more deserving players.

Lots of worthy players to choose from, but I'm going with Dolph Schayes here.

Schayes, a 38% career shooter, is a a more "worthy" player, right?

Elvin Hayes is my vote
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Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
Elvin Hayes

Should have been named Finals MVP in '78
He averaged 22/12/1 on 58% with 2 bpg
Unseld who won the FMVP averaged 9/12/4 on 52% with 0 bpg
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...78_finals.html

Hayes led the entire Playoffs in points that year.
Hayes led his team in points, rebounds, and blocks in the '78 playoffs when they won the Championship, so he was clearly the best player on the team.

8th all-time on the NBA scoring list with 27,313 points
4th alltime on the NBA rebounding list with 16,279 rebounds
20th all-time in blocks with 1,771

NBA champion (1978)
**Robbed of Finals MVP (1978)
12 NBA All-Star (1969–1980)
NBA scoring champion (1969)
3 All-NBA First Team (1975, 1977, 1979)
3 All-NBA Second Team (1973, 1974, 1976)
2 NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1974–1975)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (1969)

I've heard from posters here that he wasn't a good teammate, but I think he has the best career out of everybody else. He did good on the court it seems.

WillC 09-15-2012 07:11 PM

Re: #35 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
 
If Steve Nash (my favourite player of the last 10-years, but still) gets voted in ahead of Dolph Schayes, Bill Walton, Dave Cowens and George Gervin, then this list is officially ****ed.

kurple 09-15-2012 07:11 PM

Re: #35 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
 


MVP
ROY
All Rookie 1st
11 All Star Games (should have been more)
2x All Star MVP
3x NBA 1st
3x NBA 2nd
4x Scoring Champ
#7 in career regular season PPG
#2 in career playoffs PPG

ScalabrineStan 09-15-2012 07:16 PM

Re: #35 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
 
Walton

WillC 09-15-2012 07:19 PM

Re: #35 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
Schayes, a 38% career shooter, is a a more "worthy" player, right?

Elvin Hayes is my vote


You need to get past the basic statistics. I already pointed out in the last thread why Hayes is a bad choice, but you obviously can't get past the stats. Why else would you vote for him over genuinely better players from his own era like Cowens and Walton?

As for Schayes, he played in 12 consecutive All-Star Games, is a 6 x All-NBA 1st Team and 6 x All-NBA 2nd Team member, and won a championship.

Since you love statistics so much, put this one in your pipe and smoke it: Dolph Schayes has the highest Win Shares of the 1950s.

Meanwhile, Schayes' True Shooting Percentage was higher than George Mikan, Bob Cousy and others.

L.Kizzle 09-15-2012 07:20 PM

Re: #35 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
Schayes, a 38% career shooter, is a a more "worthy" player, right?

Elvin Hayes is my vote

I've heard from posters here that he wasn't a good teammate, but I think he has the best career out of everybody else. He did good on the court it seems.

It was the 50s, that was the norm.

Arizin, career 41, Ed Macauley career 43, career 44. The already voted in Cousy career 37 and Mikan career 40.

Eric Cartman 09-15-2012 07:21 PM

Re: #35 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
 
Allen Iverson for f*cks sake. So underrated it's crazy.

kurple 09-15-2012 07:26 PM

Re: #35 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Allen Iverson for f*cks sake. So underrated it's crazy.

this. cant believe i have been the only one mentioning him

L.Kizzle 09-15-2012 07:27 PM

Re: #35 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kurple
this. cant believe i have been the only one mentioning him

It's not his time yet? A few spots away.

Deuce Bigalow 09-15-2012 07:29 PM

Re: #35 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
 
Schayes and Hayes all have basically the same awards (rings, all-star teams, all-nba teams). Hayes is top 7 in career points and rebounds, Schayes isn't.
Schayes isn't more "worthy" than Hayes is all I'm saying. And I don't care if people say he was a bad teammate, they still won a championship with him leading the team in points, rebounds, and blocks - yeah what a horrible teammate.

MiamiThrice 09-15-2012 07:33 PM

Re: #35 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
 
Pau Gasol


-2x NBA Champion (2009, 2010)
-Led 2010 Lakers to the championship as the best player
-4 x NBA Allstar
-18.7 PPG, 9.2 RPG 3.2 APG career numbers
-3 All NBA teams
-Two silver medals as the best player
-One of the most skilled bigmen of all-time


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