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SHAQisGOAT 10-07-2012 10:02 PM

Do some people really think Larry Bird couldn't dominate like he did, in this era?
 
Seriously? That just baffles me.

Scoring skills against GOAT defenders (Pippen, Rodman, Cooper, Bobby Jones, Jordan), good athletical defenders (McCray, Pressey, Kersey, Erving, Worthy), athletic 7' footer (Sellers), amazing athletes (Wilkins, Woolridge, Chambers, Kenny Walker), bigger dudes (Cummings, Grant), even against a guy that made the all defensive team in the 00's (Clifford Robinson): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msEmcemLR7M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksp82...feature=relmfu

Plus they could play him in a much rougher way, good defensive big men and enforcers were packing the paint.


We all know about his amazing passing skills, if not: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o66NdFDHEQ


Also the man was just one of the greatest team defenders ever, nice post defender and despite lacking lateral quickness he could hold his own on the perimeter, plus you could easily switch him to guard the PF if needed, considering that the height average decreased that would even help him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H76dsMqo3s

He was grabbing never less than 10 RPG with tougher rules against fierce rebounders.

He would also thrive under zone defenses, offensively and defensively.

The straight impact and incredible intangibles he brought up were just off the charts.

Won 3 straight MVP's in an era with guys like Magic, MJ, Kareem, Moses, Erving, Hakeem, Isiah, Wilkins, Drexler....

And he played with several injuries that many wouldn't endure, including that completely wrecked back since '88.

jongib369 10-07-2012 10:08 PM

Re: Do people really think Larry Bird couldn't dominate like he did, in this era?
 
Anyone who thinks bird wouldn't do what he did in the 80's is a *****n idiot.

TIME BIAS can be a real bitch when people with actual knowledge of the game are discussing basketball and some stan of today comes derping in "80s/90s defense was weaksauce compared to today...WEAAAAK... *promotes player that his mouth is currently wrapped around*....Bird the current luke walton? :confusedshrug: "

kNicKz 10-07-2012 10:12 PM

Re: Do some people really think Larry Bird couldn't dominate like he did, in this era?
 
Bird would probably win even more in this era imo, especially with modern medicine

tontoz 10-07-2012 10:16 PM

Re: Do some people really think Larry Bird couldn't dominate like he did, in this era?
 
The 3s in the league right now are pretty weak. Bird would have no problem scoring. Not only was Bird very skilled but he had size and strength.

TaLvsCuaL 10-07-2012 10:17 PM

Re: Do some people really think Larry Bird couldn't dominate like he did, in this era?
 
Many recent NBA fans do not respect the 80's players as they should. They really don't know how good he was.

Round Mound 10-07-2012 10:26 PM

Re: Do some people really think Larry Bird couldn't dominate like he did, in this era?
 
Bird Under Todays Zone Rules Would Thrive Even More as A Team Defender and Hustle Player.

He Could Go 1 on 1 on PFs and SFs, Go Baseline Through Spins and Fakes, Post Up onf PFs and Fade Away Like a SG, Handle the Rock like a Point Forward, Shoot From a Far On Any Distance Possible, Rebound Against PFs and Cs, Get Steals, Create and Pass like a Godly Point Guard.

Complete Package. From 1979 to 1988 The Most Complete Player in the League

Yung D-Will 10-07-2012 10:29 PM

Re: Do some people really think Larry Bird couldn't dominate like he did, in this era?
 
Looking at Dirk's game and his domination there's no reason why Larry Bird wouldn't be a superstar in the nba right now. If Dirk can dominate in 2011 what makes you think Bird, who scores similarly to Dirk, whiles surpassing him in nearly every other basketball skill, would somehow lack the abilty to dominate in this era?

D.J. 10-07-2012 10:30 PM

Re: Do some people really think Larry Bird couldn't dominate like he did, in this era?
 
With his ball IQ, skills, and fundamentals; he'd be fine in any era.

SHAQisGOAT 10-07-2012 10:42 PM

Re: Do some people really think Larry Bird couldn't dominate like he did, in this era?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung D-Will
Looking at Dirk's game and his domination there's no reason why Larry Bird wouldn't be a superstar in the nba right now. If Dirk can dominate in 2011 what makes you think Bird, who scores similarly to Dirk, whiles surpassing him in nearly every other basketball skill, would somehow lack the abilty to dominate in this era?


Agreed. Dirk won MVP and FMVP.

In terms of shooting him and Bird are comparable, Dirk also a good rebounder (but not on Bird's level), Dirk is taller but Bird was more athletic (before back injuries), everything else is not even close.

If Dirk can do what he did/does, one can only imagine what Bird would do.

SHAQisGOAT 10-07-2012 10:45 PM

Re: Do some people really think Larry Bird couldn't dominate like he did, in this era?
 
Also found this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIKH2fb_PxA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7TxC...feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn8qT...feature=relmfu

Still gotta watch it completely

KOBE143 10-07-2012 10:52 PM

Re: Do some people really think Larry Bird couldn't dominate like he did, in this era?
 
Bird = Scalabrine in this era.. Still GOAT tho just like the white mamba.. :lol

SHAQisGOAT 10-07-2012 10:57 PM

Re: Do some people really think Larry Bird couldn't dominate like he did, in this era?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KOBE143
Bird = Scalabrine in this era.. Still GOAT tho just like the white mamba.. :lol


Guys like you shouldn't be able to post on basketball forums, ijs.

:rolleyes:

97 bulls 10-07-2012 11:15 PM

Re: Do some people really think Larry Bird couldn't dominate like he did, in this era?
 
These videos dont say much. Especially vs Pippen and Rodman. Both were hardly in their primes.

SHAQisGOAT 10-07-2012 11:30 PM

Re: Do some people really think Larry Bird couldn't dominate like he did, in this era?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 97 bulls
These videos dont say much. Especially vs Pippen and Rodman. Both were hardly in their primes.



Stop being such a hater, think you already said that before and I'll say it again:

Rodman was drafted in 1986, made his first all-defensive team in 1989, and won DPY in 1990 and 1991, he was a better perimeter defender in his younger years, as far as perimeter m2m D he was in his prime in his younger years, guarding Magic, Jordan and such.

Pip was drafted in 1987, made the defensive team for the first time in 1991. Already a great defensive player.

Larry was in the league 'till 1992, at 35, and since 1988 he was never the same, banged up, completely wrecked back, couldn't almost practice, overweight... That also even things out a lot even if you wanna go by that route, even if you say they weren't in their primes, so wasn't a old, overweight, full of career ending injuries, Larry Bird.


Plus saying the vid doesn't mean much, you still got guys like Bobby Jones, Cooper, Jordan, McCray, Pressey, Clifford Robinson, Grant... And even missing guys like Nance, Roundfield, Buck Williams, Moncrief, McDaniel....

Pushxx 10-07-2012 11:38 PM

Re: Do some people really think Larry Bird couldn't dominate like he did, in this era?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 97 bulls
These videos dont say much. Especially vs Pippen and Rodman. Both were hardly in their primes.


Translation: don't mind me I'm just sucking Pippen's dick again.


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