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Andgar losing sleep at night. :oldlol:
Surface is here! Andar MAF.
[QUOTE=bdreason]Andgar losing sleep at night. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Why, I could care less.:confusedshrug:
It's all about cydia breh's don't get it twisted...
I picked mine up yesterday morning and got the Xbox music year membership. I like it a lot so far. Anyone else get one?
[QUOTE=Spue]I picked mine up yesterday morning and got the Xbox music year membership. I like it a lot so far. Anyone else get one?[/QUOTE]
Tomorrow I'm gonna check it out and probably buy it, I want to get the Surface Pro but I can't wait 3 months!:mad:
[QUOTE=Spue]I picked mine up yesterday morning and got the Xbox music year membership. I like it a lot so far. Anyone else get one?[/QUOTE]
I finally got mine today.
First off, I'm still exploring it, and there's a free app in their marketplace that teaches you Windows 8 if you need it. It's different. I'm used to using my iPad and Android-based systems, but Windows 8 seems decent. The social media integration so far kind of sucks ass, but like I said, I'm still figuring this shit out. You have the option of toggling back and forth between the new Windows 8 platform and a traditional Windows desktop, which is strange to see on a tablet.
This thing definitely looks and feels like they were going for "portable laptop with a touchscreen." I opted for the type keyboard instead of the touch, and it works great and isn't that much heavier. The touch keyboard feels weird and takes some getting used to, so if you'd rather use a traditional keyboard, get the type. The length of the Surface makes it look strange when you hold it up like you would an iPad, so you're probably not going to be holding it that way. The kickstand is great and that combined with the keyboard/cover make it easy to use on small surfaces.
This is probably going to replace my Macbook Air as my travel laptop, since most of my business work is fairly small scale and doesn't require something as powerful as the Air. I really like it so far and it's the first tablet I've used since the iPad that doesn't feel entirely derivative.
[QUOTE=SpecialQue]I finally got mine today.
First off, I'm still exploring it, and there's a free app in their marketplace that teaches you Windows 8 if you need it. It's different. I'm used to using my iPad and Android-based systems, but Windows 8 seems decent. The social media integration so far kind of sucks ass, but like I said, I'm still figuring this shit out. You have the option of toggling back and forth between the new Windows 8 platform and a traditional Windows desktop, which is strange to see on a tablet.
This thing definitely looks and feels like they were going for "portable laptop with a touchscreen." I opted for the type keyboard instead of the touch, and it works great and isn't that much heavier. The touch keyboard feels weird and takes some getting used to, so if you'd rather use a traditional keyboard, get the type. The length of the Surface makes it look strange when you hold it up like you would an iPad, so you're probably not going to be holding it that way. The kickstand is great and that combined with the keyboard/cover make it easy to use on small surfaces.
This is probably going to replace my Macbook Air as my travel laptop, since most of my business work is fairly small scale and doesn't require something as powerful as the Air. I really like it so far and it's the first tablet I've used since the iPad that doesn't feel entirely derivative.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for this review, I possibly was thinking of getting this (Windows 8 Pro) version. I was going to go with the type keyboard anyway possibly. i might wait until other versions come out, maybe a second generation one or something similar.
[QUOTE=Meticode]Thanks for this review, I possibly was thinking of getting this (Windows 8 Pro) version. I was going to go with the type keyboard anyway possibly. i might wait until other versions come out, maybe a second generation one or something similar.[/QUOTE]
It wouldn't hurt to wait. Their app store is really sparse right now and not that user-friendly. If I didn't get this through my work, I would have waited a few months to make sure they got all the kinks out. The success of this is really going to depend on how well Windows 8 in general takes off.
[QUOTE=SpecialQue]I finally got mine today.
First off, I'm still exploring it, and there's a free app in their marketplace that teaches you Windows 8 if you need it. It's different. I'm used to using my iPad and Android-based systems, but Windows 8 seems decent. The social media integration so far kind of sucks ass, but like I said, I'm still figuring this shit out. You have the option of toggling back and forth between the new Windows 8 platform and a traditional Windows desktop, which is strange to see on a tablet.
This thing definitely looks and feels like they were going for "portable laptop with a touchscreen." I opted for the type keyboard instead of the touch, and it works great and isn't that much heavier. The touch keyboard feels weird and takes some getting used to, so if you'd rather use a traditional keyboard, get the type. The length of the Surface makes it look strange when you hold it up like you would an iPad, so you're probably not going to be holding it that way. The kickstand is great and that combined with the keyboard/cover make it easy to use on small surfaces.
This is probably going to replace my Macbook Air as my travel laptop, since most of my business work is fairly small scale and doesn't require something as powerful as the Air. I really like it so far and it's the first tablet I've used since the iPad that doesn't feel entirely derivative.[/QUOTE]
The only complaint I have is the xbox music app. When you choose a song from an album it will only play that one song and stop. I wish it would continue to play the album with out selecting play album. other than that I can't complain.
Anyone recommend the Surface?
I'm looking for something I can surf the internet, watch videos, and do homework on (I take online and campus classes). So basically I need programs like Microsoft Word.
I just heard about this yesturday and I have been thinking of getting either the Nexus 7 or the I-Pad. My parents have both Apple and the Kindle Fire tablets and I feel Apple isn't that much better than the Nexus and the Fire is actually a pretty decent tablet.
Right now I'm leaning towards the Nexus 7 but the Surface also has my attention.
[QUOTE=hoopaddict08]Anyone recommend the Surface?
I'm looking for something I can surf the internet, watch videos, and do homework on (I take online and campus classes). So basically I need programs like Microsoft Word.
I just heard about this yesturday and I have been thinking of getting either the Nexus 7 or the I-Pad. My parents have both Apple and the Kindle Fire tablets and I feel Apple isn't that much better than the Nexus and the Fire is actually a pretty decent tablet.
Right now I'm leaning towards the Nexus 7 but the Surface also has my attention.[/QUOTE]
You have to pick your poison. The iPad is amazing for videos, and you do have the option of downloading a Google search app if you don't want to use Safari. However, typing on it is kind of a pain in the ass, and the Pages app is decent at best. Surface comes with Word and the keyboard is much more user-friendly for doing school work, but you're stuck with Explorer and video playback is kind of "eh."
The Real Surface is coming out Feb. 9, BE READY!
[url]http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/surface-windows-8-pro-february-9-release-additional-details-and-accessories?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url]
Guess what,Microsoft is including the Type cover with the tablet!!
64 GB for 899.00
128 GB for 999.00
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]The Real Surface is coming out Feb. 9, BE READY!
[url]http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/surface-windows-8-pro-february-9-release-additional-details-and-accessories?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url]
Guess what,Microsoft is including the Type cover with the tablet!!
64 GB for 899.00
128 GB for 999.00[/QUOTE]
****ers.
They lost me, I bought the Sony Vaio Duo 11, 1 1/2 months ago because I was sick of waiting.
[img]http://cdn4.mos.techradar.futurecdn.net//art/laptops/Sony/Sony%20Vaio%20Duo%2011/Sony%20Vaio%20Duo%2011%20two-580-90.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=embersyc]****ers.
They lost me, I bought the Sony Vaio Duo 11, 1 1/2 months ago because I was sick of waiting.
[img]http://cdn4.mos.techradar.futurecdn.net//art/laptops/Sony/Sony%20Vaio%20Duo%2011/Sony%20Vaio%20Duo%2011%20two-580-90.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
That sucks. But, I've heard really good things about that as well.
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]That sucks. But, I've heard really good things about that as well.[/QUOTE]
I have no complaints with it, in fact it's probably the best computer I've ever owned, and this from a guy building his own PCs the past 20 years. It looks I have more ram than the Surface anyways.
Edit: well I guess I do have one complaint, if you Skype with it in "laptop mode" the camera is pointed at the ceiling, but I'm sure the Surface probably has the same problem.
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]The Real Surface is coming out Feb. 9, BE READY!
[url]http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/surface-windows-8-pro-february-9-release-additional-details-and-accessories?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url]
Guess what,Microsoft is including the Type cover with the tablet!!
64 GB for 899.00
128 GB for 999.00[/QUOTE]
Agreed with ember. Waited too long, and still costs way too ****ing much. Which is a damn shame because the windows 8 tablets I played with at best buy we're terrific. But I'm not paying 500+ for a tablet that may or may not get updated down the road, and more importantly...when I can(and did) get an ipad for 400
[QUOTE=Rose]Agreed with ember. Waited too long, and still costs way too ****ing much. Which is a damn shame because the windows 8 tablets I played with at best buy we're terrific. But I'm not paying 500+ for a tablet that may or may not get updated down the road, and more importantly...when I can(and did) get an ipad for 400[/QUOTE]
Its not really in competition with an ipad tho. For me it was this or the Macbook Air. I am still not sure though. Kinda still leaning Air.
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]Its not really in competition with an ipad tho. For me it was this or the Macbook Air. I am still not sure though. Kinda still leaning Air.[/QUOTE]
Tablets aren't ready to replace pcs though. That's why I think you have to price it competitively. In 5 years? Definitely will be ready to replace. For basic stuff you can do it on a tablet. Just my opinion
With that said though I see why you think it's not designed to compete with iPads.
[QUOTE=Rose]Agreed with ember. Waited too long, and still costs way too ****ing much. Which is a damn shame because the windows 8 tablets I played with at best buy we're terrific. But I'm not paying 500+ for a tablet that may or may not get updated down the road, and more importantly...when I can(and did) get an ipad for 400[/QUOTE]
I don't think you did agree with me. I bought a $1200 tablet because I was sick of waiting. :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=Rose]Tablets aren't ready to replace pcs though. That's why I think you have to price it competitively. In 5 years? Definitely will be ready to replace. For basic stuff you can do it on a tablet. Just my opinion
With that said though I see why you think it's not designed to compete with iPads.[/QUOTE]
No, Tablets are ready to replace PCs. That Sony Vaio Duo 11 and Microsoft Surface Pro both will beast on any desktop PC that isn't running a SSD. They run full versions of Windows that you can run any Windows 7 or XP program in.
[QUOTE=embersyc]No, Tablets are ready to replace PCs. That Sony Vaio Duo 11 and Microsoft Surface Pro both will beast on any desktop PC that isn't running a SSD. They run full versions of Windows that you can run any Windows 7 or XP program in.[/QUOTE]
Can you install things from disc though, like software for classes? Obviously I know you'd need to borrow a pc's disc drive to do it...but yeah.
If so.:bowdown:
I was referring to them waiting to long to release the version that I would want. And that made me go somewhere else. The price thing was my own.
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]Its not really in competition with an ipad tho. For me it was this or the Macbook Air. I am still not sure though. Kinda still leaning Air.[/QUOTE]
the mba sucks, i have it and i hate it.
[QUOTE=Rose]Can you install things from disc though, like software for classes? Obviously I know you'd need to borrow a pc's disc drive to do it...but yeah.
If so.:bowdown:
I was referring to them waiting to long to release the version that I would want. And that made me go somewhere else. The price thing was my own.[/QUOTE]
Gotcha,
As far as installing from disc, obviously these things are ultrabooks so they don't have disc drives, but I'm certain somebody out there makes an external USB disc drive if you are worried about it.
[QUOTE=embersyc]Gotcha,
As far as installing from disc, obviously these things are ultrabooks so they don't have disc drives, but I'm certain somebody out there makes an external USB disc drive if you are worried about it.[/QUOTE]
you can always mount an iso to a usb..something an ipad cant do
[QUOTE=rezznor]the mba sucks, i have it and i hate it.[/QUOTE]
wow, never heard anyone say that about the air. what is so bad about it?
[QUOTE=Rose]Tablets aren't ready to replace pcs though. That's why I think you have to price it competitively. In 5 years? Definitely will be ready to replace. For basic stuff you can do it on a tablet. Just my opinion
With that said though I see why you think it's not designed to compete with iPads.[/QUOTE]
idk, if you mount a surface pro to a monitor it is pretty like a desktop. So for the price of a Surface Pro you get a cool tablet, nifty little laptop and you can mount it to a PC screen.
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]wow, never heard anyone say that about the air. what is so bad about it?[/QUOTE]
i own one and its phenomenal.
Disclaimer, i only use it for office software and internet browsing. Don't do any heavy duty stuff with it but that's not what the MBA is really designed for.
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]wow, never heard anyone say that about the air. what is so bad about it?[/QUOTE]
ive got the 2011 model. it freezes up all the time (when using osx), the wifi sucks ass, ergonomics are horrid (that tapered lid is the dumbest idea ever if you are trying to use the laptop in bed), i hate the retarded OS (i can boot into windows, but it cuts down on the battery life)
any modern ultrabook would blow it away imo
i'll probably sell it and buy an ultrabook once the new haswell chips come out
[QUOTE=DukeDelonte13]i own one and its phenomenal.
Disclaimer, i only use it for office software and internet browsing. Don't do any heavy duty stuff with it but that's not what the MBA is really designed for.[/QUOTE]
mine freezes up even when im trying to open a folder, not even trying to run a processor intensive program.
[QUOTE=rezznor]ive got the 2011 model. it freezes up all the time (when using osx), the wifi sucks ass, ergonomics are horrid (that tapered lid is the dumbest idea ever if you are trying to use the laptop in bed), i hate the retarded OS (i can boot into windows, but it cuts down on the battery life)
any modern ultrabook would blow it away imo
i'll probably sell it and buy an ultrabook once the new haswell chips come out[/QUOTE]
I'm curious as to what you're doing on osx, to make it freeze. (if it's safari my pro has been doing the same thing since the last update)
seriously? just a folder?damn.
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]idk, if you mount a surface pro to a monitor it is pretty like a desktop. So for the price of a Surface Pro you get a cool tablet, nifty little laptop and you can mount it to a PC screen.[/QUOTE]
No to mention if it's like Duo 11, it probably has Intel WiDi built in. You can use your TV as a second monitor wirelessly if you you get a WiDi receiver (about $75). Or are lucky enough to own a TV with WiDi built in.
[QUOTE=Rose]I'm curious as to what you're doing on osx, to make it freeze. (if it's safari my pro has been doing the same thing since the last update)
seriously? just a folder?damn.[/QUOTE]
that's the thing..this was happening since day one. granted it doesnt freeze everytime, but it will for simple random things
. i've even wiped it and reinstalled lion fresh.
Surface RT sold like shit, most people do not like windows 8 and unwillingly to switch over. I don't like spending 1k for notebook in general, but at this point gimme the macbook air over this device.
[QUOTE=rezznor]that's the thing..this was happening since day one. granted it doesnt freeze everytime, but it will for simple random things
. i've even wiped it and reinstalled [B]lion[/B] fresh.[/QUOTE]
That's the problem. Lion was as slow/stupid as Vista. I think the only thing that was good about that was airdrop. and maybe gestures.
[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Surface RT sold like shit, most people do not like windows 8 and unwillingly to switch over. I don't like spending 1k for notebook in general, but at this point gimme the macbook air over this device.[/QUOTE]
:confusedshrug:
RT is watered down, doesn't run legacy apps, etc... It was doomed to fail.
As far as Windows 8 goes, if you have a touchscreen there is nothing wrong with it. Once you are in desktop mode it's practically identical to windows 7 anyways.
[QUOTE=bigkingsfan]Surface RT sold like shit, most people do not like windows 8 and unwillingly to switch over. I don't like spending 1k for notebook in general, but at this point gimme the macbook air over this device.[/QUOTE]
you are supposed to compare RT to an ipad and Pro to a MBA.
[QUOTE=Rose]That's the problem. Lion was as slow/stupid as Vista. I think the only thing that was good about that was airdrop. and maybe gestures.[/QUOTE]
Not to make excuses, but Lion has been universally hailed as a weak OS. I was having many issues with it as well. And it even gave users with new Macs issues, so it isn't that it only gave older Macs problems.
The worst was Safari, I loathed that shit. Most of the issues most people had were due to Safari. The main problem was the automatic refreshing, you could turn it off but then you had other issues and annoyances, that was the reason most people (including myself) moved to Chrome. The entire OS itself was shaky here and there, good ideas but not coded to work consistently. When it worked, it was beautiful (and was the case 98% of the time, except for the horrid Safari), but when it didn't it was annoying. Most of this was a result of the auto back up.
[QUOTE=rezznor]you are supposed to compare RT to an ipad and Pro to a MBA.[/QUOTE]
YOu can get an Air for the same price (even slightly cheaper).
[QUOTE=andgar923]YOu can get an Air for the same price (even slightly cheaper).[/QUOTE]
i know..and i would still prefer a Pro. (I have an RT and a MBA right now)
[QUOTE=andgar923]Not to make excuses, but Lion has been universally hailed as a weak OS. I was having many issues with it as well. And it even gave users with new Macs issues, so it isn't that it only gave older Macs problems.
The worst was Safari, I loathed that shit. Most of the issues most people had were due to Safari. The main problem was the automatic refreshing, you could turn it off but then you had other issues and annoyances, that was the reason most people (including myself) moved to Chrome. The entire OS itself was shaky here and there, good ideas but not coded to work consistently. When it worked, it was beautiful (and was the case 98% of the time, except for the horrid Safari), but when it didn't it was annoying. Most of this was a result of the auto back up.[/QUOTE]
Safari was shitty. And definitely made me switch to Chrome but that wasn't most of my issues.
-Finder froze alot.
-the iTunes issues I had were endless: No sound, then I couldn't stay signed into the iTunes store even while DOWNLOADING something. Apple told me to just reinstall it, and then after that I couldn't install it for a week+
-pages was sloooooooooow to open. (also iPhoto and mail)
And Skype was a headache to use as well. (it occasionally still is)