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ScalabrineStan 10-17-2012 10:29 PM

How many titles do the Shaq Lakers win with Ray Allen instead of Kobe?
 
Assume its a direct swap, how many do u think they win?

Beatlezz 10-17-2012 10:30 PM

Re: How many titles do the Shaq Lakers win with Ray Allen instead of Kobe?
 
zero

longtime lurker 10-17-2012 10:31 PM

Re: How many titles do the Shaq Lakers win with Ray Allen instead of Kobe?
 
Zero next question.

DirtySanchez 10-17-2012 10:31 PM

Re: How many titles do the Shaq Lakers win with Ray Allen instead of Kobe?
 
Wow what an original thread topic!!!!

StateOfMind12 10-17-2012 10:32 PM

Re: How many titles do the Shaq Lakers win with Ray Allen instead of Kobe?
 
2, possibly 3.

It seems like people forgot how much flat out more talent those Lakers teams had over everyone else. It wasn't just the Kobe-Shaq show, it was the case in 2004, and they got killed by Detroit.

Pushxx 10-17-2012 10:34 PM

Re: How many titles do the Shaq Lakers win with Ray Allen instead of Kobe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StateOfMind12
2, possibly 3.

It seems like people forgot how much flat out more talent those Lakers teams had over everyone else. It wasn't just the Kobe-Shaq show, it was the case in 2004, and they got killed by Detroit.


This exactly. Repped.

eliteballer 10-17-2012 10:35 PM

Re: How many titles do the Shaq Lakers win with Ray Allen instead of Kobe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StateOfMind12
2, possibly 3.

It seems like people forgot how much flat out more talent those Lakers teams had over everyone else. It wasn't just the Kobe-Shaq show, it was the case in 2004, and they got killed by Detroit.


LOL.........................it was ALWAYS noted when LA went up against Portland, Spurs, Kings that the Lakers had two stars and the other teams had all the talent. The Lakers had good roleplayers but Fox, Fisher, Brian Shaw ancient Harper and Ho Grant....those dudes weren't overwhelming anybody.

Check Game 7 vs Portland in 2000 and show me Ray do what Kobe did.

chazzy 10-17-2012 10:39 PM

Re: How many titles do the Shaq Lakers win with Ray Allen instead of Kobe?
 
They dont get past the 02 Kings or 00 Blazers

PJR 10-17-2012 10:40 PM

Re: How many titles do the Shaq Lakers win with Ray Allen instead of Kobe?
 
One in 2000.

outbreak 10-17-2012 10:45 PM

Re: How many titles do the Shaq Lakers win with Ray Allen instead of Kobe?
 
Still would have got at least 1 maybe 2. Ray's a great player and prime ray with a good distributor and shaq would win alot of rings, but one those teams Kobe could create his own shot well.

macpierce 10-17-2012 10:46 PM

Re: How many titles do the Shaq Lakers win with Ray Allen instead of Kobe?
 
yeah id like to see ray allen drop 48 and 16 on the kings like kobe did....

MiamiThrice 10-17-2012 10:51 PM

Re: How many titles do the Shaq Lakers win with Ray Allen instead of Kobe?
 
4-6.

He compliments Shaq better offensively, and the Lakers most likely keep Eddie Jones who was a defensive stalwart in his own right. Shaq-Ray Allen-Eddie Jones would be one of the best trios ever and they may even win some rings in the late 90s when Kobe was still developing and had an awful outside shot. Ray is the best shooter in NBA History.

Then in 2004 they would win the ring as well since Kobe cost the Lakers the series with his shot jacking and desire for Finals MVP over another Ring.

They win all of the 00-02 rings with Peak Shaq too, the best player to ever play the game. I'll give them 00-02, 2004, possibly 2005 since Shaq was still the games best player and Ray Allen had probably his best individual year. Possibly even a 90s title too since those late 90s Lakers were VERY talented, but always underperformed. Ray would probably help that team get to the next level.

longtime lurker 10-17-2012 10:56 PM

Re: How many titles do the Shaq Lakers win with Ray Allen instead of Kobe?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiThrice
4-6.

He compliments Shaq better offensively, and the Lakers most likely keep Eddie Jones who was a defensive stalwart in his own right. Shaq-Ray Allen-Eddie Jones would be one of the best trios ever and they may even win some rings in the late 90s when Kobe was still developing and had an awful outside shot. Ray is the best shooter in NBA History.

Then in 2004 they would win the ring as well since Kobe cost the Lakers the series with his shot jacking and desire for Finals MVP over another Ring.

They win all of the 00-02 rings with Peak Shaq too, the best player to ever play the game. I'll give them 00-02, 2004, possibly 2005 since Shaq was still the games best player and Ray Allen had probably his best individual year. Possibly even a 90s title too since those late 90s Lakers were VERY talented, but always underperformed. Ray would probably help that team get to the next level.


Just do us all a favour and stop posting :facepalm

tpols 10-17-2012 11:03 PM

Re: How many titles do the Shaq Lakers win with Ray Allen instead of Kobe?
 
Maybe 1 or 2 in 01 and 04.

But overall 01-04 Kobe is one of the most underrated players of all time. Moreso than 91-97 Pippen.

inclinerator 10-17-2012 11:03 PM

Re: How many titles do the Shaq Lakers win with Ray Allen instead of Kobe?
 
2 maybe more depending on how long they stay together


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