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D-Rose 11-02-2012 11:26 AM

People actually think that reducing the size of military will weaken America...
 
Seriously? Does anyone here actually agree?

I was reading an article in the Texas a&m newspaper about this where the ever so brilliant minds of the corps of cadets voiced opinions on how this would lead to another 9/11 and a weaker country and military....

We spend more than the next 13 COMBINED! Besides, places like Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan prove that having a powerful military means a lot less in terms of international power.

When will America wake up?

-p.tiddy- 11-02-2012 11:30 AM

Re: People actually think that reducing the size of military will weaken America...
 
The military would get weaker...obviously

not sure about the country in general though

Jailblazers7 11-02-2012 11:35 AM

Re: People actually think that reducing the size of military will weaken America...
 
Military spending is prob the most ineffecient portion on govt spending but somehow cutting costs is a bad thing. That is why most "fiscal conservatives" are a joke.

Godzuki 11-02-2012 11:50 AM

Re: People actually think that reducing the size of military will weaken America...
 
i remember there being a lot of criticism as to the state of our military when we first deployed to Iraq with Republicans citing things i can't remember blaming Democrats for lack of funding. i do think we overspend but i think military expenditures are very important to us being a Superpower, and our interests around the world. with drones suddenly becoming a popular means of warfare and spying(Iran is supposedly selling them for Syria to use according to Syrian rebels), more research and development to counter them would be a good start. since Hezbollah has access to them as well then we should start to worry a bit more about our enemies tech upgrades too. i don't think the arms race just stops because of nuke stalemates.

longhornfan1234 11-02-2012 12:15 PM

Re: People actually think that reducing the size of military will weaken America...
 
We should cut back, but we need to cut entitlements first.


List of cuts:

Welfare and food stamps

Medicare

SS

Parent planhood

PBS

Medicaid

Subsidies for oil companies


No more freebies.

ballup 11-02-2012 12:30 PM

Re: People actually think that reducing the size of military will weaken America...
 
When you mean reducing the size of the military, do you mean cutting down on the number of troops or military spending?

millwad 11-02-2012 12:37 PM

Re: People actually think that reducing the size of military will weaken America...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzuki
i remember there being a lot of criticism as to the state of our military when we first deployed to Iraq with Republicans citing things i can't remember blaming Democrats for lack of funding. i do think we overspend but i think military expenditures are very important to us being a Superpower, and our interests around the world. with drones suddenly becoming a popular means of warfare and spying(Iran is supposedly selling them for Syria to use according to Syrian rebels), more research and development to counter them would be a good start. since Hezbollah has access to them as well then we should start to worry a bit more about our enemies tech upgrades too. i don't think the arms race just stops because of nuke stalemates.


Well, the US can't be everywhere, and especially not with the bad economy.

And by the way, please, stop with the nonsense "supposedly", the most fundings to anti-american terrorist muslims come from Saudi Arabia and those are prio 1 compared to Syria. I don't understand why you're so obsessed with what FOX news and the true right wings want you to believe.

The US needs new ways of handling foreign business, no longer can they be everywhere and be some what of a bully like they've been in the Middle East, it will only backlash. China is gaining power due prior mistakes of the american government.

UConnCeltics 11-02-2012 12:44 PM

Re: People actually think that reducing the size of military will weaken America...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longhornfan1234
We should cut back, but we need to cut entitlements first.


List of cuts:
Medicare

SS

I don't know about you but after already contributing to these programs for years, I would like it if they were around for my retirement. Unless you meant cut back instead of eliminating them, then I disagree.

Snoop_Cat 11-02-2012 12:46 PM

Re: People actually think that reducing the size of military will weaken America...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longhornfan1234
We should cut back, but we need to cut entitlements first.


List of cuts:

Welfare and food stamps

Medicare

SS

Parent planhood

PBS

Medicaid

Subsidies for oil companies


No more freebies.


SS and Medicare aren't freebies if you've paid for them as part of taxes/your retirement plan.

Welfare and things like subsidized housing on the other hand..... I'm on the same boat.

Sarcastic 11-02-2012 12:49 PM

Re: People actually think that reducing the size of military will weaken America...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longhornfan1234
We should cut back, but we need to cut entitlements first.


List of cuts:

Welfare and food stamps

Medicare

SS

Parent planhood

PBS

Medicaid

Subsidies for oil companies


No more freebies.


Welfare and food stamps are probably the best economic stimulators that the government can give out, because every single dollar is put back into the economy and none of it goes into savings. Plus the amount saved by cutting those would not make a dent in our debt.

Godzuki 11-02-2012 01:07 PM

Re: People actually think that reducing the size of military will weaken America...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by millwad
Well, the US can't be everywhere, and especially not with the bad economy.

And by the way, please, stop with the nonsense "supposedly", the most fundings to anti-american terrorist muslims come from Saudi Arabia and those are prio 1 compared to Syria. I don't understand why you're so obsessed with what FOX news and the true right wings want you to believe.

The US needs new ways of handling foreign business, no longer can they be everywhere and be some what of a bully like they've been in the Middle East, it will only backlash. China is gaining power due prior mistakes of the american government.



just stop replying to me with your nonsense, and start reading some current events before yapping. thats what the Syrian rebels said, quoted directly from them :facepalm i don't know why you keep acting like you know stuff when you don't seem to read any current events.

heres the CNN article, i'm sure a lot of other news sites have it as well since its world news:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/31/world/...iref=allsearch

stallionaire 11-02-2012 01:10 PM

Re: People actually think that reducing the size of military will weaken America...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longhornfan1234
We should cut back, but we need to cut entitlements first.


List of cuts:

Welfare and food stamps

Medicare

SS

Parent planhood

PBS

Medicaid

Subsidies for oil companies


No more freebies.


Wow you're a moron. :facepalm

knickballer 11-02-2012 01:22 PM

Re: People actually think that reducing the size of military will weaken America...
 
Not at all.. Reducing the military would be the best thing for the country. Terrorism will actually decrease and the debt will decrease. We have no reason to be in the middle east or to have military bases in Germany, Japan or where ever else.

But of course you have idiots(many on this forum as well) who think we need to occupy and attack every country to keep ourselves safe. :facepalm

MavsSuperFan 11-02-2012 01:30 PM

Re: People actually think that reducing the size of military will weaken America...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longhornfan1234
We should cut back, but we need to cut entitlements first.


List of cuts:

Welfare and food stamps

Medicare

SS

Parent planhood

PBS

Medicaid

Subsidies for oil companies


No more freebies.


You are totally wrong, supply side economics has failed over and over, we need Keynesian stimulation to get us back on track. PBS and nutrition assistance are miniscule.

Unfortunately we will cut welfare programs. Obama is going to win the electoral vote in a blow out, maybe the popular vote will be close, but electoral wise it will be a blowout. His administration has already offered the Boehner the grand bargain (largely based on Simpson-Bowles). We will have very minor tax increases to high income individuals, a decrease in corporate taxes (especially manufacturing), rising of SS age, lowering of medicaid eligibility test, and cuts to the supplier side (they will find a way to pass the cuts to recipients) of medicare.

Sequestration is about to come up, no way does this militaristic hegemon cut its military by that amount. The deficit will be covered on the backs of the poor.

KevinNYC 11-02-2012 01:32 PM

Re: People actually think that reducing the size of military will weaken America...
 
We could get rid of things like the F-35 project without reducing our strength

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...e_the_pentagon


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