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BuGzBuNNy 11-09-2012 04:16 PM

Black Christian here, ask me anything
 
yup

DonDadda59 11-09-2012 04:19 PM

Re: Black Christian here, ask me anything
 
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Originally Posted by BuGzBuNNy
Preferably not too too biblical since I'm not the most knowledgable person to ask about things pertained inside the good book and I'd hate to give someone inaccurate information.


So what makes you 'Christian' if you don't know shit about the bible? Isn't knowing/believing the content within the good book the basis of being Christian? I mean it's not hereditary like race, nationality, etc.

Also, what is the name of the dog in your avatar? :D

SourPatchKids 11-09-2012 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BuGzBuNNy
I call her Debra


Faptastrophe 11-09-2012 04:29 PM

Re: Black Christian here, ask me anything
 
Are you aware of how ironic your religious belief is? It's funny how black christians could could reference a bible verse to condone homophobia yet they forget that the white men did the same thing to justify enslaving their people. Does anyone remind you that the faith that you're preaching was the same faith that subjugated your people. Did anyone note the reasons there are so many black Christians out there is not because of divine truth but because slave-masters converted your ancestors?
If you're a black Christian, you have a real short memory - Chris Rock

Ok, nice meeting you. I'll better leave as fast as I can. k, thx, bye.


The Macho Man 11-09-2012 04:38 PM

Re: Black Christian here, ask me anything
 
Who's your favorite wrestler?

The Macho Man 11-09-2012 04:41 PM

Re: Black Christian here, ask me anything
 
:durantunimpressed:

DonDadda59 11-09-2012 04:48 PM

Re: Black Christian here, ask me anything
 
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Originally Posted by BuGzBuNNy
I know they referenced the book to justify slavery but tell me exactly what they saw in the book that they thought justified it. If you will..I'm uncertain.

In other words, what does the bible say that made them think slavery was okay?


Just some examples, sure there's more, too lazy to look:

Genesis 9:25-27: "Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers. He also said, 'Blessed be the Lord, the God of Shem! May Canaan be the slave of Shem. May God extend the territory of Japheth; may Japeth live in the tents of Shem and may Canaan be his slave'.

Some Christians and Muslims believed the descendants of Canaan were Africans, so naturally they used the above text to justify the institution of slavery.

"slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling" (Ephesians 6:5)

"tell slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect" (Titus 2:9)

The Macho Man 11-09-2012 04:48 PM

Re: Black Christian here, ask me anything
 
I am

DonDadda59 11-09-2012 04:58 PM

Re: Black Christian here, ask me anything
 
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Originally Posted by BuGzBuNNy
But then again you have...

I'd have to read for context, without it one can make anything of a quote.


The context being, don't steal slaves and try to profit from selling them, but owning them and beating them to death under the right circumstances is completely legit.

Riddler 11-09-2012 05:02 PM

Re: Black Christian here, ask me anything
 
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Originally Posted by Faptastrophe
Did anyone note the reasons there are so many black Christians out there is not because of divine truth but because slave-masters converted your ancestors?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Africa

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Christianity is now one of the two most widely practiced religions in Africa. There has been tremendous growth of Christians in Africa - coupled by a relative decline in adherence to traditional African religions. Only nine million Christians were in Africa in 1900, but by the year 2000, there were an estimated 380 million Christians.


Can we blame Slavery for this too?

DonDadda59 11-09-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BuGzBuNNy
Thanks for the quotes. I'll put on my to do list to read all the quotes regarding slavery for context. I'm reading different takes on it on various sites. I can recall my old pastor speaking on it but I don't remember his stance.


Whatever the context in the bible, there is no question that Southern pastors during the pre Civil War era used those passages and others to justify the institution of slavery, especially when those pesky abolitionists started spreading their dangerous propaganda.

DonDadda59 11-09-2012 05:05 PM

Re: Black Christian here, ask me anything
 
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Originally Posted by Riddler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Africa




Can we blame Slavery for this too?


Yes, slavery and colonialism.

bigdaddyfunk 11-09-2012 05:33 PM

Re: Black Christian here, ask me anything
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BuGzBuNNy
I know they referenced the book to justify slavery but tell me exactly what they saw in the book that they thought justified it. If you will..I'm uncertain.

In other words, what does the bible say that made them think slavery was okay?


You kind of missed his point. He's saying that the ONLY reason that you are a Christian is because white people at the time needed an excuse to rationalize their cruel and inhumane actions; they claimed that it was okay to enslave a population of uncivilized 'monkeys' so that they could "save" them. In reality, the only thing they had on their minds was money and power.

bigdaddyfunk 11-09-2012 05:35 PM

Re: Black Christian here, ask me anything
 
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Originally Posted by Riddler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Africa




Can we blame Slavery for this too?


Definitely. Christianity was introduced into Africa through European countries on a mission to expand their trade empires.

bigdaddyfunk 11-09-2012 05:43 PM

Re: Black Christian here, ask me anything
 
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Originally Posted by BuGzBuNNy
So basically, without slavery I wouldn't have become a Christian? Is that the point I missed?


Can't say that definitively, but without slavery odds are most black Christians probably wouldn't be Christians today.


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