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Sarcastic 11-14-2012 09:29 AM

NY Jet teammates rip backup Tim Tebow, believe 'terrible' quarterback hasn't improved
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...icle-1.1201722

Quote:

Tebowmania may have captivated the NFL last season, but Tim Tebow’s new team doesn’t believe that he’s a savior.

More than a dozen Jets players and members of the organization painted a sobering picture of the player who rallied the Broncos to the playoffs last season. In their eyes, he’s simply not very good.

The prevailing thought in the organization is that Tebow is nothing more than a gimmick.

“He’s terrible,” a defensive starter told the Daily News.

Although Tebow told The News last month that he has made improvements as a quarterback over the past few months, none of the people in the organization who spoke to The News shared that sentiment.

Both offensive and defensive players admitted that they hadn’t noticed any appreciable improvement in Tebow’s quarterback skills in practice since he was traded to the Jets in March. Tebow has been a poor practice player throughout his career. His current teammates echoed sentiments from Denver Broncos players a year ago about the lefthanded signal caller’s poor practice performance.

The 3-6 Jets’ dwindling playoff chances haven’t changed this mind-set in the locker room: Tebow isn’t a panacea.

Despite Mark Sanchez’s league-low 52% completion rate and league-high four red-zone interceptions, the players believe he should remain the starter over Tebow, who has accounted for only 132 total yards and averaged seven offensive snaps per game. Rex Ryan has backed Sanchez without publicly guaranteeing that he will be the starting quarterback for the rest of the season.

Left guard Matt Slauson, who has repeatedly supported Sanchez, made it clear that the fourth-year signal caller is the Jets’ best quarterback.

“It’s not even close,” Slauson said. “All the other quarterbacks know it. I have all the confidence in Mark. We don’t really have a choice.”

When asked about the team’s two other quarterbacks on the depth chart as possible alternatives — Tebow and Greg McElroy — Slauson clarified that the Jets really have only one other quarterback.

“We have Greg . . . and we have an athlete,” Slauson said.


But could the Jets win with Tebow as the No. 1 quarterback?

“Do I have to answer that question?” a veteran starter said, shaking his head.

To most of the people in the organization, Tebow is nothing more than a specialty player who doesn’t have the requisite skills to be a true quarterback in the league. “We don’t look at him as a quarterback,” another starter said. “He’s the Wildcat guy.”

The designation dismisses Tebow’s success in Denver last season. Despite Tebow’s magic from a year ago, the Jets still view Sanchez as a much better option and have no immediate plans to bench him, according to sources. None of the members of the organization interviewed by The News believed that a zone-read offense tailored to Tebow’s strengths can help the Jets reverse their fortunes.

“Hell, no!” another starter said. “You got to keep defenses honest. You just can’t line up in the Wildcat all the time. That won’t work.”

Tebow’s legs provide a tempting alternative for the Jets’ slumping offense. “That’s the real threat he brings,” defensive lineman Mike DeVito said.

“He’s a winner,” said a Jets source, who made it clear that even though he wanted Tebow to get more playing time, Sanchez should remain the starter. “If he stays on the field long enough, usually good things happen.”

But most members of the Jets don’t believe that what they saw from Tebow last season is sustainable. “We can’t win running that sh--,” one player said.

They think Tebow’s heroics in Denver were a mirage.

“Now we’re depending on miracles?” a member of the organization said. “You can’t play that way.”


However, Sanchez’s poor play raises legitimate questions about whether a change — if only temporary — is in order for a team that has lost nine of the last 12 games dating back to last season.

The decision-makers don’t think that’s the right course of action. “It would take extreme poor play. . . . like a five-interception game,” said a prominent member of the organization. “Something where it was just ridiculous. It would take Mark to totally just sh-- the bed and become unglued (before there was a quarterback change).”

The organization has factored Sanchez’s weak supporting cast of skill position players into the equation.

“Look at some of the players he’s throwing to,” a Jets official said. “It’s garbage.”

Said another Jets source: “I’ve seen better receiving corps in college than we have on our team.”

So, who wants Tebow to be the starter?

“Nobody,” a member of the team said.



It's not like people didn't see this coming.

InspiredLebowski 11-14-2012 10:13 AM

Re: NY Jet teammates rip backup Tim Tebow, believe 'terrible' quarterback hasn't improved
 
So a single guy had the balls to give quotes and put his name on it?

**** that team. Cut em all EXCEPT Tebow. Bunch of jealous *******.

AboveTheRim. 11-14-2012 10:32 AM

Re: NY Jet teammates rip backup Tim Tebow, believe 'terrible' quarterback hasn't improved
 
The Jets are playing awful with Sanchez under center. I don't care what they think of Tebow, he won games last year, and they should be willing to at least give him a chance. The Jets players who took part in that interview are idiots.

I like how they're complaining that the receiving corps is so bad too. If it's so bad, then why not introduce a mobile quarterback?

code green 11-14-2012 10:46 AM

Re: NY Jet teammates rip backup Tim Tebow, believe 'terrible' quarterback hasn't improved
 
What a bunch of fakkits. They might have a point, but it's still a bitch move unless he's just completely dogging it in practice. I just can't picture that being the case. Stupid shit like this is the reason they'll always be number 2 in NY and the AFC East.

Real Men Wear Green 11-14-2012 11:12 AM

Re: NY Jet teammates rip backup Tim Tebow, believe 'terrible' quarterback hasn't improved
 
And we have NY Jets talking trash about each other anonymously to the media again. Same shit, different week. It doesn't matter if they play Tebow or not. A "team" with no unity isn't going to win.

kentatm 11-14-2012 12:18 PM

Re: NY Jet teammates rip backup Tim Tebow, believe 'terrible' quarterback hasn't improved
 
I'm no Tebow fan but those dudes come off like complete losers bashing him anonymously in the press. He's the f-ing backup. Maybe they should look in the mirror if they want to complain about not winning.

DuMa 11-14-2012 12:56 PM

Re: NY Jet teammates rip backup Tim Tebow, believe 'terrible' quarterback hasn't improved
 
talk about a team divided

Real Men Wear Green 11-14-2012 01:09 PM

Re: NY Jet teammates rip backup Tim Tebow, believe 'terrible' quarterback hasn't improved
 
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Originally Posted by kentatm
I'm no Tebow fan but those dudes come off like complete losers bashing him anonymously in the press. He's the f-ing backup. Maybe they should look in the mirror if they want to complain about not winning.

They're just jealous of the attention he gets. And probably echoing their coach's true view of him (as bad as Sanchez is playing Ryan must have a really low opinion of Tebow). Tebow needs a team where he can work on his passing without all of this kind of controversy. If he can't find an NFL team that will give him a real shot he should seriously consider the CFL.

QUIZZLE 11-14-2012 01:19 PM

Re: NY Jet teammates rip backup Tim Tebow, believe 'terrible' quarterback hasn't improved
 
The Jets are an absolute joke and will continue to be until Rex Ryan leaves as far as I'm concerned. All of his trash talk and guarantees are nothing but a load of shit. They are not winning a Superbowl with Sanchez either, just like the Cowboys won't with Romo.

They bring in Tebow as a pigeonhole but don't ever give him a chance. Your season's over Ryan. What's the worst thing that could happen? You're gonna lose your job anyway. Give Tebow a chance or continue to suffer through sub-150 yard Sanchez losses.

niko 11-14-2012 01:23 PM

Re: NY Jet teammates rip backup Tim Tebow, believe 'terrible' quarterback hasn't improved
 
I wouldn't want Tebow to be the starting QB of my team but it is ridiculous beyond words that the morons that make up the NY Jets FO and team would use him as a scapegoat for the crappy season they are having. That the Jets would find a way to be even more embarassing than they have been is absolutely amazing. Tebow's done nothing wrong.

irondarts 11-14-2012 02:33 PM

Re: NY Jet teammates rip backup Tim Tebow, believe 'terrible' quarterback hasn't improved
 
What an embarrassing team.

A bunch of morons who give anonymous quotes ripping teammates. What an utterly horseshit group of players.

NuggetsFan 11-14-2012 03:43 PM

Re: NY Jet teammates rip backup Tim Tebow, believe 'terrible' quarterback hasn't improved
 
I'm not sure who they trash worse, Tebow or the WR's.

Send Tebow to Jax, guy deserves a chance. He looked awful every game up until the 4th quarter, and you could probably argue his success late in games is based off what defenses throw at him but still worth a shot considering what he did in Denver. Probably never repeats that as everything just fell into place but you never know.

Tebow is the rare athlete that you actually want to see be successful. He's not some ego maniak who's getting DUI's and slapping his girlfriend around. Plays the game with as much passion and heart as possible. Gets annoying the whole religion kick but atleast it's genuine.

AboveTheRim. 11-14-2012 04:05 PM

Re: NY Jet teammates rip backup Tim Tebow, believe 'terrible' quarterback hasn't improved
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NuggetsFan
I'm not sure who they trash worse, Tebow or the WR's.

Send Tebow to Jax, guy deserves a chance. He looked awful every game up until the 4th quarter, and you could probably argue his success late in games is based off what defenses throw at him but still worth a shot considering what he did in Denver. Probably never repeats that as everything just fell into place but you never know.

Tebow is the rare athlete that you actually want to see be successful. He's not some ego maniak who's getting DUI's and slapping his girlfriend around. Plays the game with as much passion and heart as possible. Gets annoying the whole religion kick but atleast it's genuine.


Exactly. I'm sure he realizes that he's not a great traditional quarterback, but he puts his heart and soul into every game he plays. Even with the religion thing (which is annoying at times), he is a genuinely good person. Watch him mic'd up, it's ridiculous how nice and supportive he is about his team, even in bad situations.

Jailblazers7 11-14-2012 04:11 PM

Re: NY Jet teammates rip backup Tim Tebow, believe 'terrible' quarterback hasn't improved
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7OpSgG_CUI

Tebow should play that in the next film session.

mlh1981 11-14-2012 04:23 PM

Re: NY Jet teammates rip backup Tim Tebow, believe 'terrible' quarterback hasn't improved
 
tebow is a terrible passing QB, but I think with the right team, in the right situation, he could have some sort of role in this league, but teams aren't gonna want to deal with the circus and the "Tebow nation" that follows him around. It would behoove him to be able to toil in obscurity for awhile, but at this point, that seems impossible.


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