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hateraid 11-25-2012 08:08 PM

Who do the Chiefs pick: Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?
 
I think the obvious choice here is QB, assuming the Chiefs get #1.

Who do they select, Matt Barkley or Geno Smith? Break down these two for me fellas

knickballer 11-25-2012 08:14 PM

Re: Who do the Chiefs pick: Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?
 
I haven't watched any college FB this year but I'd pick Barkley based from what I've saw in previous years. He's proven, established, looks like he does a great job at reading defenses, accurate, athletic, etc. But one area of concern is that he's lacking the physical stats and kind of reminds me Sanchez which should scare any team.

irondarts 11-25-2012 08:32 PM

Re: Who do the Chiefs pick: Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?
 
Both are mid to late 1st round talents, but if the Chiefs get the first pick, they will probably have to take a QB. This is one of the worst QB classes in recent memory. I'd take Geno over Barkley. Barkley scares me, he's short, he doesn't have very good arm strength, basically his physical tools are limited. He reminds me of Jimmy Claussen.

Smith has a huge arm, has good size and throws a very good deep ball. I'd take him over Barkley any day.

GOBB 11-25-2012 08:34 PM

Re: Who do the Chiefs pick: Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by irondarts
Both are mid to late 1st round talents, but if the Chiefs get the first pick, they will probably have to take a QB. This is one of the worst QB classes in recent memory. I'd take Geno over Barkley. Barkley scares me, he's short, he doesn't have very good arm strength, basically his physical tools are limited. He reminds me of Jimmy Claussen.

Smith has a huge arm, has good size and throws a very good deep ball. I'd take him over Barkley any day.


Agreed

Heavincent 11-25-2012 08:51 PM

Re: Who do the Chiefs pick: Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by irondarts
Barkley scares me, he's short, he doesn't have very good arm strength, basically his physical tools are limited.


Sounds eerily similar to Mark Sanchez. What is it with USC and loser QB's?

Geno Smith is the clear cut best QB in this draft class. It's not even really close to me.

JMT 11-25-2012 09:04 PM

Re: Who do the Chiefs pick: Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hateraid
I think the obvious choice here is QB, assuming the Chiefs get #1.

Who do they select, Matt Barkley or Geno Smith? Break down these two for me fellas


A team would have to be insane to use the #1 pick on a QB this year. The Chiefs have plenty of holes to fill or possibly a chance to trade down, though I don't know who's going to be falling over themselves to get the top spot.

Barkley is a mid-1st at best, and Smith isn't close to that imo.

There will be FAs on the market that will be an improvement over what they have currently. There's no quick fix in this year's draft.

IcanzIIravor 11-25-2012 09:07 PM

Re: Who do the Chiefs pick: Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hateraid
I think the obvious choice here is QB, assuming the Chiefs get #1.

Who do they select, Matt Barkley or Geno Smith? Break down these two for me fellas


I'd do my best to trade down for a ton of draft picks if possible and pick up a Tyler Wilson. They need a better o-line and better pass rush as well. Emphasis on o-line. No o-line then no matter who you draft at quarterback will still get slaughtered.

KingBeasley08 11-25-2012 09:14 PM

Re: Who do the Chiefs pick: Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?
 
Yeah, the QBs in this draft are awful. I'd say Geno is slightly better but neither are elite prosepcts. For the people that follow the draft more, what happened to guys like Tyler Bray and Tyler Wilson? Why'd they struggle so much this year?

InspiredLebowski 11-25-2012 09:15 PM

Re: Who do the Chiefs pick: Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?
 
Do whatever you can to trade it but if there's not a good deal take Jarvis Jones.

dak121 11-25-2012 09:17 PM

Re: Who do the Chiefs pick: Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?
 
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Originally Posted by IcanzIIravor
I'd do my best to trade down for a ton of draft picks if possible and pick up a Tyler Wilson. They need a better o-line and better pass rush as well. Emphasis on o-line. No o-line then no matter who you draft at quarterback will still get slaughtered.


He's going to be the fast riser in the draft. Wouldn't suprise me at all if he ends up being the best NFL QB out of this upcoming draft class. Petrino/John L. Smith made that Arkansas situation poisonous.

irondarts 11-25-2012 09:24 PM

Re: Who do the Chiefs pick: Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?
 
Both Tyler Wilson and Landry Jones fell off the face of the earth when it comes to being NFL prospects. I still like Tyler Wilson though.

Bray isn't nearly ready for the pros. Needs one more year.

KingBeasley08 11-25-2012 09:25 PM

Re: Who do the Chiefs pick: Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by irondarts
Both Tyler Wilson and Landry Jones fell off the face of the earth when it comes to being NFL prospects. I still like Tyler Wilson though.

Bray isn't nearly ready for the pros. Needs one more year.

Yeah, Landry Jones seemed like a crap prospect last year as well even though p.tiddy was calling him a future hall of famer :rolleyes:

Carbine 11-25-2012 09:27 PM

Re: Who do the Chiefs pick: Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?
 
It would make sense for them to draft Lotueleli and use him like the Ravens use Ngata. Then hope Poe develops into a good player.

-p.tiddy- 11-25-2012 10:28 PM

Re: Who do the Chiefs pick: Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?
 
Landry Jones could still be a first round pick after a good combine showing...and still the best QB in this draft

Not saying the Chiefs will take him...just sayin...he IS a legit prospect

IcanzIIravor 11-25-2012 10:32 PM

Re: Who do the Chiefs pick: Matt Barkley or Geno Smith?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KingBeasley08
Yeah, the QBs in this draft are awful. I'd say Geno is slightly better but neither are elite prosepcts. For the people that follow the draft more, what happened to guys like Tyler Bray and Tyler Wilson? Why'd they struggle so much this year?


Wilson was a victim of the Petrino crap. He also battled injury and I think had a number of guys buckle under the high expectations. I think he'll be a better pro under the right coach. Wilson also lost a lot of weapons to graduation I believe and didn't have guys step up. None existent running game hurt too. Bray would be smart to stay another year in college and gain some more polish. He has a ton of potential, but another year should help his draft prospects. Bray showed a ton of inconsistency and with the offensive talent they had, the team should have been better on that side of the ball.


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