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insidehoops 11-28-2012 11:39 AM

OKC offense still efficient without Harden
 
Info on how the Thunder offense has been so far:

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=11547

Bigsmoke 11-28-2012 11:53 AM

Re: OKC offense still efficient without Harden
 
they lost Harden

not Durant :confusedshrug:

andremiller07 11-28-2012 11:57 AM

Re: OKC offense still efficient without Harden
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmoke
they lost Harden

not Durant :confusedshrug:


+ Westbrooke is not playing under NBA finals pressure and Ibaka is always improving, Collison is always solid, Maynord is back and Kevin Martin has always been a efficent bucket filler. No real suprises

KG215 11-28-2012 01:20 PM

Re: OKC offense still efficient without Harden
 
Quote:

Last season the Thunder were last in the league in the percentage of their baskets that were assisted, with Harden often dominating the ball when Westbrook wasn't. They have zoomed to seventh in that category this season. That's also how Serge Ibaka, who has developed his offensive game over the last few years, is averaging almost six more points a game while shooting 57 percent.
That's what stuck out the most to me. I knew our ball movement and passing looked a lot better than last year, but I didn't know we were top 10 in the league in assists.

And Ibaka's improvement can't be understated. He's flying under the radar a little bit right now, and I'm fine with that, but he's been an integral part of the offense staying roughly the same (efficiency wise) after the Harden trade.

chips93 11-28-2012 01:53 PM

Re: OKC offense still efficient without Harden
 
their starting 5 is actually their worst offensive line-up, of their 5 most used line-ups

http://www.82games.com/1213/1213OKC2.HTM

brandonislegend 11-28-2012 02:47 PM

Re: OKC offense still efficient without Harden
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chips93
their starting 5 is actually their worst offensive line-up, of their 5 most used line-ups

http://www.82games.com/1213/1213OKC2.HTM


Dang that's weird.

KDthunderup 11-28-2012 04:02 PM

Re: OKC offense still efficient without Harden
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KG215
That's what stuck out the most to me. I knew our ball movement and passing looked a lot better than last year, but I didn't know we were top 10 in the league in assists.

And Ibaka's improvement can't be understated. He's flying under the radar a little bit right now, and I'm fine with that, but he's been an integral part of the offense staying roughly the same (efficiency wise) after the Harden trade.

is it possible that getting rid of Harden a ball handler has freed up the offence with players passing more? Bu...bu...but people said we would miss his 3 assists per game :confusedshrug:

Mr Exlax 11-28-2012 04:09 PM

Re: OKC offense still efficient without Harden
 
The thing they're going to miss are those times when they would have Harden on the court with Westbrook and Durant. Freed up Durant and Westbrook. The points i would think would be the same.

RRR3 11-28-2012 04:11 PM

Re: OKC offense still efficient without Harden
 
Meanwhile HardGAWD is averaging 25/4/5/2/1 :bowdown:

KG215 11-28-2012 05:08 PM

Re: OKC offense still efficient without Harden
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KDthunderup
is it possible that getting rid of Harden a ball handler has freed up the offence with players passing more? Bu...bu...but people said we would miss his 3 assists per game :confusedshrug:

I think that's precisely why ball movement, assists, spacing, etc. are all improved. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to still have Harden, but Martin doesn't constantly need the ball in his hands to get his 17-20 points. He's not totally incapable of getting his own shot but he's obviously not as good as Harden in that department.

However, there's already been 4-5 games this year where I thought the ball movement on offense was as good as I've ever seen in the Durant/Westbrook era. Of course I thought we started seeing glimpses of that in last year's WCF, so this could just be an extension of that.

But yeah, the offense is just as efficient as last year (for now) but it looks a lot different.


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