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longhornfan1234 12-05-2012 02:24 PM

If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
 
Latinos: ideology

54% conservative

39% liberal

I saw this on MSNBC today.

If Republicans soften the immigration message, I think Democrats are done.

Thoughts?

Legend of Josh 12-05-2012 02:45 PM

Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
 
No. The entire party needs a serious "make over" before they will be able to contend for the throne in future elections.

Is He Ill 12-05-2012 02:45 PM

Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
 
You have to love how they're willing to suddenly switch their stance solely to win an election, not because they feel it's the right stance. F*cking politics.

Legend of Josh 12-05-2012 02:52 PM

Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Is He Ill
You have to love how they're willing to suddenly switch their stance solely to win an election, not because they feel it's the right stance. F*cking politics.


Politics are so fu*ked on both sides. I hate both the crips and bloods, and both sides are fighting for the Latino Kings support.

TheMan 12-05-2012 03:48 PM

Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longhornfan1234
Latinos: ideology

54% conservative

39% liberal

I saw this on MSNBC today.

If Republicans soften the immigration message, I think Democrats are done.

Thoughts?

Well, if the GOP has a makeover and the stops being the nationalist, racist, homophobic, anti-science, xenophobic, anti-women party, it will be a good thing. The problem with the GOP is that they are catering to the extreme right, the religious nuts, softening their ant-immigration stance won't be enough. They need to support policies that benefit the working class, not just the rich. Latinos have a big blue collar base, they vote for their economic interests, not just because of immigration...

The GOP WILL change, they have to or they risk being out of the White House for a loooong time. They'll still prolly get their asses handed to them in 2016 by the Clintons because I don't think they've all have gotten the messege...eventually they will, though.

B-Low 12-05-2012 03:53 PM

Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
 
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you're the life of every party you go to. Your range in conversation topics rivals even the great L. Kizzle.

longhornfan1234 12-05-2012 04:04 PM

Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMan
Well, if the GOP has a makeover and the stops being the nationalist, racist, homophobic, anti-science, xenophobic, anti-women party, it will be a good thing. The problem with the GOP is that they are catering to the extreme right, the religious nuts, softening their ant-immigration stance won't be enough. They need to support policies that benefit the working class, not just the rich. Latinos have a big blue collar base, they vote for their economic interests, not just because of immigration...

The GOP WILL change, they have to or they risk being out of the White House for a loooong time. They'll still prolly get their asses handed to them in 2016 by the Clintons because I don't think they've all have gotten the messege...eventually they will, though.


Your first paragraph is bunch of bs, but I agree with your second paragraph.

longhornfan1234 12-05-2012 04:04 PM

Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by B-Low
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you're the life of every party you go to. Your range in conversation topics rivals even the great L. Kizzle.

You know me so well. :bowdown: :bowdown:

rezznor 12-05-2012 04:15 PM

Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longhornfan1234
Latinos: ideology

54% conservative

39% liberal

I saw this on MSNBC today.

If Republicans soften the immigration message, I think Democrats are done.

Thoughts?



you guys just got your asses handed to you. do you really think you are gonna turn it around so easily, much less proclaim the Dems "done"?

DeuceWallaces 12-05-2012 04:17 PM

Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longhornfan1234
Your first paragraph is bunch of bs


And there lies the GOP's problem. You don't believe the first paragraph.

longhornfan1234 12-05-2012 04:24 PM

Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezznor
you guys just got your asses handed to you. do you really think you are gonna turn it around so easily, much less proclaim the Dems "done"?

If we soften immigration message, yes. And close the women gap. We need to soften our message about abortion.

Math2 12-05-2012 04:29 PM

Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeuceWallaces
And there lies the GOP's problem. You don't believe the first paragraph.


The Democrats are communistic, socialistic, racist, anti-white, anti-male and anti-rich. You can argue the same exact thing for Democrats.

In regards to immigration, I only believe that they should soften the line on legal immigration, maybe let more people in legally, maybe. But not with illegal immigrants. I think they should absolutely be deported.

Droid101 12-05-2012 04:32 PM

Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Math2
The Democrats are communistic, socialistic, racist, anti-white, anti-male and anti-rich. You can argue the same exact thing for Democrats.

No you can't. Name a prominent politician having any of those views.

I don't need to remind you about Santorum's "Government NIG*" or all those Rape comments.

Both sides are NOT the same.

KevinNYC 12-05-2012 04:33 PM

Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
 
The bigger and much harder part is they are going to have to not just change a policy stance, but actually show Hispanics some respect and they are very bad at doing that across the party. For every Republican who could authentically represent a more sensible immigration policy, you have politicians like Jan Brewer in Arizona who get elected because of the hostility to Hispanics Nationalism is element in the Republican coalition and the Republicans will probably have to deal with a Pat Buchanan type threat on the right on immigration for a little bit.

Mike Huckabee talked about how he was able to do so well with blacks when he was Governor and he said, you can't just show up during the campaign, you have put in the work and have a dialogue all the time if you want their votes. He won't 48% of the black vote one election. When's the last time that happened for a Republican?

KevinNYC 12-05-2012 04:33 PM

Re: If Republicans soften the immigration message, is it over for Democrats?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Math2
The Democrats are communistic, socialistic, racist, anti-white, anti-male and anti-rich. You can argue the same exact thing for Democrats.

In regards to immigration, I only believe that they should soften the line on legal immigration, maybe let more people in legally, maybe. But not with illegal immigrants. I think they should absolutely be deported.


I don't believe the first paragraph.


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