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JerryWest 02-06-2013 08:14 AM

If stats were more important than achievements, who would be GOAT?
 
Stat geeks, I summon you!

CeltsGarlic 02-06-2013 08:19 AM

Re: If stats were more important than achievements, who would be GOAT?
 
Wilt I guess.

RobertdeMeijer 02-06-2013 09:05 AM

Re: If stats were more important than achievements, who would be GOAT?
 
Really advanced stats are hard to make with the data there's around for older games.
Michael Jordan is also the goat for stat-geeks, and Wilt is actually not that super duper (on par with Kareem and Shaq)

Guys who get extra credit from the stat community are:
-Chauncey Billups
-David Robinson
-John Stockton
-Horace Grant
-Chris Paul
-Dirk Nowitzki
-Neil Johnston
-Adrian Dantley
-Tyson Chandler
-Sidney Moncrief
-Bobby Jones
-Charles Barkley (76ers)
-Larry Nance
-Terry Porter

I myself love SAPM: here's a top ten Power Forwards all time (with links to other positions at the bottom of the page)
http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=1654

JerryWest 02-06-2013 09:14 AM

Re: If stats were more important than achievements, who would be GOAT?
 
What's chauncy billups best season?

JerryWest 02-06-2013 09:14 AM

Re: If stats were more important than achievements, who would be GOAT?
 
rookie oscar robinson :bowdown: :bowdown:

RobertdeMeijer 02-06-2013 09:16 AM

Re: If stats were more important than achievements, who would be GOAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryWest
What's chauncy billups best season?

2005/2006

pauk 02-06-2013 09:40 AM

Re: If stats were more important than achievements, who would be GOAT?
 
According to PER:

1. Michael Jordan
2. Lebron James
3. Shaquille Oneal
4. David Robinson
5. Wilt Chamberlain

One of those guys... :)

Sarcastic 02-06-2013 09:52 AM

Re: If stats were more important than achievements, who would be GOAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pauk
According to PER:

1. Michael Jordan
2. Lebron James
3. Shaquille Oneal
4. David Robinson
5. Wilt Chamberlain

One of those guys... :)



Neil Johnston would be 10th best player of all time.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/...er_career.html

KOBE143 02-06-2013 10:42 AM

Re: If stats were more important than achievements, who would be GOAT?
 
According to career highest points in single game

1. Wilt Chamberlain
2. Kobe Bryant
3. David Thompson
4. David Robinson/Elgin Baylor
5. Michael Jordan

Ancient Legend 02-06-2013 11:01 AM

Re: If stats were more important than achievements, who would be GOAT?
 
According to career totals and not percentages, Kareem would edge Wilt for #1.

Kareem:
6 Rings
6 MVPs
38K points
17K rebs.

Wilt:
2 Rings
4 MVPs
30K points
24K rebs

JerryWest 02-06-2013 11:22 AM

Re: If stats were more important than achievements, who would be GOAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancient Legend
According to career totals and not percentages, Kareem would edge Wilt for #1.

Kareem:
6 Rings
6 MVPs
38K points
17K rebs.

Wilt:
2 Rings
4 MVPs
30K points
24K rebs

rings and mvp's dont matter.

Ancient Legend 02-06-2013 11:30 AM

Re: If stats were more important than achievements, who would be GOAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryWest
rings and mvp's dont matter.


Well none can't beat Wilt's #4 all time points and #1 rebounding. And a career 30 ppg 22 rpg average. Think about it. Last year only two players had games of 30 pts and 22 rebs. Wilt averaged that for his career.

CarlosBoozer 02-06-2013 11:31 AM

Re: If stats were more important than achievements, who would be GOAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ancient Legend
Well none can't beat Wilt's #4 all time points and #1 rebounding. And a career 30 ppg 22 rpg average.

how bout assists?

Ancient Legend 02-06-2013 11:37 AM

Re: If stats were more important than achievements, who would be GOAT?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosBoozer
how bout assists?


He averaged like 4 apg for his career I think. One season he lead the league in assists, to prove a point.

Some monster Wilt games that are even less likely than his 100 point game to ever be replicated:

Feb 2, 1968 Wilt had a Double Triple-Double:
22 points, 25 rebounds, and 21 assists

Dec 8, 1961 Wilt had:
78 points, 43 rebounds.

It was a different era, but taking into account stats only he's far better than MJ because of his insane rebounding.

Jolokia 02-06-2013 11:38 AM

Re: If stats were more important than achievements, who would be GOAT?
 
Yesterday, Samuel Dalembert scored 35 on 81% in 27 minutes so he is the GOAT scorer.


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